Rudy Gay and Landry Fields giving me some flashbacks of mediocrity
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Rudy Gay and Landry Fields giving me some flashbacks of mediocrity
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Exclusive Q&A With Gradey Dick - The Raptors Show with Will Lou
Host William Lou speaks to Toronto Raptors No. 13 pick Gradey Dick after his introductory press conference at OVO practice facility. They discuss his whirlwind 72 hours since being drafted, working with head coach Darko Rajakovic, his development and his process as a prolific shooter, and also dig into flipping the switch between his online persona and his approach to work. Will then returns to share his impressions on Dick’s unveiling.
Host William Lou speaks to Toronto Raptors No. 13 pick Gradey Dick after his introductory press conference at OVO practice facility. They discuss his whirlwind 72 hours since being drafted, working with head coach Darko Rajakovic, his development and his process as a prolific shooter, and also dig into flipping the switch between his online persona and his approach to work. Will then returns to share his impressions on Dick’s unveiling.
Gradey Dick on being drafted by the Raptors, first impressions, the suit and much more! - TSN.ca
Toronto Raptors 13th Overall Pick Gradey Dick joined the OverDrive guys after being officially introduced earlier today! He touched on the moment being drafted by the Raptors, whether he was expecting to be picked, his first impressions of Toronto and much more!
Toronto Raptors 13th Overall Pick Gradey Dick joined the OverDrive guys after being officially introduced earlier today! He touched on the moment being drafted by the Raptors, whether he was expecting to be picked, his first impressions of Toronto and much more!
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Raptors to re-sign Jakob Poeltl in the $20 million range annually?
The Toronto Raptors are expected to re-sign unrestricted free agent center Jakob Poeltl to a deal in the $20 million range annually, per...
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The Toronto Raptors are expected to re-sign unrestricted free agent center Jakob Poeltl to a deal in the $20 million range annually, per sources. Poeltl is at the end of his three-year, $26.25 million contract he signed with the San Antonio Spurs in 2020. Fred VanVleet might have played his last game in a Toronto uniform as well.
“Two sources said Monday that they expect the Raptors to re-sign Poeltl to a deal in the $20 million range annually,” said NBA Insider Marc Stein. “Sources say that the Raptors realize it will likely require an annual salary of at least $30 million (and possibly higher) to secure VanVleet’s return.”
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Rote selfishness. And I don't mean that in a necessarily spiteful way, just that they're going to look at it as "why should we have our head coach use some of his valuable time to coach the players of a country we don't play in and have no connection to?"
The Raptors had an interest in allowing Nurse to coach Canada because growing the game nationally was specifically beneficial to them through fan engagement and the opportunity to do things like sponsor and organize national development camps or tournaments for Canadian players. But Philly likely couldn't give less of a toss about Canada for any reason short of Ryan Reynolds in a mountie outfit slinging flaming timbits at their practice facility while Nickelback and Justin Bieber duet O Canada in the background.
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Pass on FVV at that price. Unless Darko really thinks he can make it work with FVV I don't see why the team would do this.
One of my main problems with him, he isn't that durable and I would think it gets worse as he gets older.
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The salary doesnt matter that much.. if we let Fred go. We cant offer someone else 30 million to be our starting pg. He has bird rights so, its losing Fred for nothing or giving him the contract and we can move him down the road if needed. Id prefer keep all the guys, give it a run with the new coach.. doesnt mean we still cant move roster players but keep a valuable asset that could be packaged at a later date.
No, this isn't possible.
If Toronto lets FVV go free and clear, they cannot sign an equivalent piece. If the team that signs FVV has a piece Toronto wants, then a sign and trade could work.
A sign and trade for FVV leading to a sign and trade for a PG not on the acquiring team could be very messy.
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i don't know about you guys but i would stay clear of Fred. He just doesn't really make this team any better and plays with way too much tunnel vision. Thanks for your time, you were an important piece of the championship, but it's time to move on.
We said the exact same thing about Kyle until we brought in a new coach and the system switch brought out the best in him.
If FVV wants to come back, there are worse options out there. The nightmare scenario is him signing in Houston with no S & T because we'd lose him and can only sign a replacement up to the MLE.
Lowry is likely to get waived soon. I'd be offering him the MLE regardless of the Fred situation (Lowry plus Fred puts the kids in a good spot).
Raptors focused on re-signing VanVleet and Poeltl but challenges remain
The first meaningful few weeks of the off-season went nicely for the Toronto Raptors but now comes the hard part: reaching deals with pending free agents Fred VanVleet and Jakob Poeltl.
Although Trent Jr.’s camp has signalled interest in signing an extension with Toronto, there are no plans for formal discussions as of now and it’s very much considered something in the "we’ll see" category. A year ago — on the heels of massive extensions to the young, shoot first, defend later wings like Tyler Herro ($120 million); Jordan Poole ($120 million) — here seemed like a universe where Trent Jr. could command a four-year deal starting north of $100 million.
Now? That market seems to have cooled off, and the sense is if the Raptors do want to reach an extension with Trent Jr. it will be a little more modest. If they don’t? A career 38 per cent three-point shooter on a reasonable expiring deal shouldn’t be too hard to move for at least some kind of return.
In any case, the decision on Trent Jr. has been kicked down the road with minimal obligation, and the Raptors keep one of their better shooters under contract at a good price.
Now we get to the hard part: What to do with pending free agents Fred VanVleet and Jakob Poeltl? And where things stand with Pascal Siakam, the team’s leading scorer, all-star and two-time all-NBA selection, who is heading into the last year of his deal and eligible for an extension before hitting free agency in the summer of 2024?
Multiple teams have inquired about the possibility of Siakam being available — Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans and Sacramento have made calls — and while few conversations have even qualified as preliminary, it’s not as if the Raptors have been opposed to listening. As has been typical, their true intentions are hard to read: “Not the easiest team to figure out,” said one league source.
Watching carefully, doubtless, will be O.G. Anunoby, the Raptors' all-NBA defender and likely a very popular free agent this time next year, given he should be in line for a deal more than the highest extension Toronto could offer, which would be about $116 million over four years.
It’s a lot of question marks for a team coming off a 41-41 season that cost head coach Nick Nurse his job.
The first order of business is reaching deals with VanVleet and Poeltl. There isn’t much wiggle room here: The Raptors traded away a lightly protected first-round pick to add Poeltl at the trade deadline, confident he was the piece that could help stabilize their lineup. Failing to sign him would be a significant miscalculation. Similarly, Toronto opted not to trade VanVleet at the deadline and would stand to lose him for nothing if he walks in free agency.
The Raptors are expected to meet VanVleet in Los Angeles on Friday night while plans to connect with Poeltl are being ironed out.
Their belief in Poeltl’s on-court value was more or less proven out: Toronto went 15-10 in 25 games with the big Austrian starting, and Poeltl contributed 13.4 points, 9.3 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.4 blocks and 1.2 assists on 64.9 per cent shooting in 27.9 minutes a game, while playing excellent defence. It’s hard to get more efficient than that.
Toronto believes returning all or most of their core along with a coaching change could see them be a factor in the East.
Poeltl’s return at the right deal has generally been considered a given with the working assumption that a four-year deal worth something around $80 million would do the trick but things can happen and there are few discounts offered in the NBA. Multiple league sources have said the San Antonio Spurs have inquired about the possibility of a reunion with Poeltl as a veteran centre alongside No. 1 pick Victor Wembanyama, who they project as a stretch four, at least on offence.
After several years of rebuilding in San Antonio, Poeltl made clear last season how much he enjoyed playing on a competitive team again. Are the Raptors his best option, or only one? With Wembanyama in the fold, the Spurs could make a jump. “Free agency can get a little crazy and unpredictable,” as one source put it. “I don’t think Poeltl’s [deal] is as done as people think.”
By my count Houston has about 58M. If Fred gets a max deal (41.5 per), they have around 17 left (keep in mind that they have a hard limit at the bottom of the cap if they hit it), where other teams can offer the MLE and not sucking as an alternative.
It isnt that simple imo.
If 30M for 2 years gets it done, that's a decent deal. The extension that he reportedly turned down would also be good.
3 years 90M depends on whether I am ultimately bidding against Houston or someone else. I can handle a S & T with a competitor, but penny pinching only to not be able to spend the 30M is stupid.
I dont think Fred even considers a number under the max from Houston (this is why it is stupid to go below the cap)
