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Fred VanVleet

Toronto Raptors free agent guard Fred VanVleet is expected to command $30-plus million annually, according to NBA executives who spoke with HoopsHype.

So where will one of the top unrestricted free agents on the market land?


After a mutual decision by VanVleet and the Raptors to hold off extension talks that would’ve potentially landed him a four-year, $114 million contract, which is considered below his market value, Toronto remains in the mix to re-sign the 2022 All-Star guard.

However, several other teams, including the Rockets, Lakers, Suns, and Magic, have been linked to VanVleet as potential suitors, while other playoff-caliber teams could emerge as sign-and-trade options.

New Rockets coach Ime Udoka is believed to covet a veteran point guard, according to league sources, and VanVleet is among a wide list of targets for Houston this offseason, as noted in a recent HoopsHype podcast with Rockets beat writer Kelly Iko of The Athletic.

For the Lakers to land VanVleet, it would likely need to involve D’Angelo Russell as part of a sign-and-trade, but Toronto would need to covet Russell – a fellow free agent – in such a scenario.


The Suns flirted with adding VanVleet when he was previously a free agent, but it never came to fruition. Now, the Suns have discussed several trade scenarios involving future Hall of Famer Chris Paul, including a deal that would land Bradley Beal in Phoenix.

Orlando has been linked to VanVleet due to his connection with Jeff Weltman during their time together in Toronto. However, there’s some pessimism that Orlando would be willing to make a big splash in free agency by signing VanVleet with a predominantly young core that isn’t ready to contend at a high level now.

OG Anunoby


As Toronto figures out the futures of unrestricted free agents Fred VanVleet and Jakob Poeltl and awaits Gary Trent Jr.’s $18.56 million player option decision, rival executives are closely monitoring whether Toronto will retool or enter a rebuild.

Several teams have reportedly expressed trade interest in Anunoby, including the Indiana Pacers and Sacramento Kings. It’s worth noting the Portland Trail Blazers also coveted Anunoby ahead of last year’s NBA Draft involving the seventh overall pick, which was eventually used to select Shaedon Sharpe.

Who could be another potential suitor for Anunoby?

The Grizzlies are dangling future first-round draft picks to make an upgrade on the wing, league sources told HoopsHype.

At the trade deadline, the Grizzlies offered the Brooklyn Nets four first-round picks as part of a trade package for Mikal Bridges, as previously reported by HoopsHype. Memphis also had trade discussions with the Raptors for Anunoby during that time and could look to rekindle those conversations.

Anunoby is owed $18.6 million for the upcoming season and has a $19.9 million player option for the 2024-25 season.

With unrestricted free agent Dillon Brooks not expected back in Memphis, per The Athletic, and expected to draw interest from the Houston Rockets in free agency, the Grizzlies will need to fill the starting void of Brooks.
 

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Portland is stacked coming into the draft. The Trail Blazers have a young player with upside on a long-term contract in Simons, contract filler like Jusuf Nurkic, last year’s No.7 pick, Shaedon Sharpe, if the offer is enticing enough, and the No.3 pick in this year’s draft.

They can aggressively pursue putting a second real star next to Lillard for the first time since LaMarcus Aldridge (with apologies to CJ McCollum).


The question those around the league were asking is “What happens if that deal doesn’t happen on draft night?”

Portland is posturing strongly that they feel confident Lillard won’t go script and impact their leverage with a trade demand (which, heads up, would get leaked to Turner’s Chris Haynes, who covered Dame in Portland and has a longstanding relationship with Lillard and his camp).

If they’re wrong and are unable to get a deal done on draft night, and Lillard’s frustration reaches a boiling point, things could change.


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This all sets up the next five days of negotiations. If the Blazers walk away with no deal for the No.3, they’ll continue to posture that they’re thrilled with the pick and still looking to contend. Lillard doesn’t tend to hide his displeasure; he’ll make it known he’s not happy that they took a 19-year-old for him to try and win with.

But until Lillard shows that he’s willing to use all superstar options to apply pressure, until there’s a real threat of him sitting out games if the Blazers don’t actually build a contender around him, Thursday’s deadline to find a deal to upgrade the roster is more about Dame’s happiness than the future of the franchise.

• So Beal won’t get the third pick; what will that pick get? The most likely option is on the Pelicans. The Pelicans front office is thought to think as highly of Scoot Henderson as any in the league,
and with the Zion Williamson situation seemingly at least straining at running its course, this presents a narrow opportunity for the Pelicans to move off Williamson and reload behind another young star.

• There’s a pre-existing relationship between the Blazers and Pelicans’ front office after their deal two years ago sending CJ McCollum and Larry Nance to New Orleans. That helps grease wheels. Williamson is a big-swing, high-risk, high-reward play. This potential trade doesn’t solve the defensive issues with Lillard, but if the options are a discount with the Pelicans for Zion or paying through the entire nose for OG Anunoby, Zion seems like great value.

• Speaking of Anunoby, there is a growing sense among executives who have called the Raptors (albeit with some caution) that Pascal Siakam may be easier to deal with than Anunoby currently. One savvy executive did mention that he felt that was a means to judge market value if and when the Raptors do decide to trade Anunoby. However, it’s fair to say front offices are pretty worn out on the attempts by Toronto to get “blood from a stone” as one executive put it at the deadline in any deal. Multiple sources have described the Raptors as frustrating to deal with. So why keep calling? “There are only 29 teams to work with.”

• If Anunoby is still, or put back, on the table, expect the Sacramento Kings to be at the front of the line in trying to make an offer for the defensive stalwart wing.

• Let’s circle back to New Orleans. The Pelicans want Scoot Henderson by all accounts. It should be noted that if any team is moving into the top three, it’s for Henderson, not for Brandon Miller.


• This puts Charlotte in a particularly interesting situation. As recently as two weeks ago, everyone I spoke with said Miller was a “lock” at No.2 to Charlotte. That’s started to soften; the Hornets haven’t made a decision and, until this week, had not had either player in for a workout-interview-dinner with the team and ownership.

• If you’re the Pelicans, chasing Scoot, do you talk to Charlotte, who by all accounts is leaning towards Miller, given that GM Mitch Kupchak openly said they were looking for fit, and Henderson isn’t one with LaMelo Ball, the franchise cornerstone? Do you dare the Hornets to not take the guy they reportedly want and risk not getting Henderson in a Williamson deal?

• If you’re Charlotte, does Zion Williamson alongside LaMelo move you closer to contention than the No.2 pick would, regardless of whether it’s Henderson or Miller?

• This is my own speculation entirely, but one has to wonder if there’s a potential three-way trade that sees Henderson end up in New Orleans, Zion in Portland, and the No.3 pick with the Hornets alongside compensation for moving down so they can still take Miller.

• The only other team that seems genuinely interested in pursuing the No.2 pick is Toronto, but I’m expecting that list of teams to expand rapidly this week; again, a lot of teams have an interest in Scoot Henderson as a potential franchise cornerstone.
 

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Why the Bradley Beal Trade Could Be Bad for Both Teams and Other Rumblings Ahead of NBA Draft - Sports Illustrated

Why didn’t Miami get more aggressive in the pursuit of Beal?

That was among the questions many around the league had in the aftermath of the Wizards dealing Beal to Phoenix. Miami has a quality young player in Tyler Herro, a significant expiring contract in Kyle Lowry and multiple first-round picks to deal.

The Heat likely could have topped Phoenix’s offer. So why didn’t they?

Among the reasons are that Miami has eyes on a different prize: Damian Lillard. There is intense league-wide interest in what the Blazers will do this week. Portland holds the third pick in Thursday’s draft and right now are showing no interest in dealing it, sources say. The Blazers have been burning up the phone lines looking for upgrades that will satisfy Lillard—Toronto’s OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam are two players they have discussed, per sources—but to this point have rebuffed overtures to trade a pick that will position them to draft either G League star Scoot Henderson or Alabama big man Brandon Miller.

So what happens if the Blazers can’t find a deal that improves their short-term chances? There won’t be a trade demand; that’s simply not Lillard’s style. Lillard has said repeatedly—including to me back in March—that if Portland can’t put itself on a path to contention, he will sit down with GM Joe Cronin and have a frank discussion about what is best.

From my interview with Lillard in March:

“There comes a time where we have the right intentions, [but] we’ve got to execute. We have to actually make that come to life, to give ourselves a chance to really make a run at it. And because of who I know [Cronin] to be, I trust him on that. I don’t ever think he would tell me one thing and then not do it. If anything, it would just be like, ‘We did our best and we couldn’t do it.’

“I think I’ve always been firm in my commitment to what I want and to this organization, and that’s where it stands right now. But like I said, if it comes time where they say, ‘Man, we can’t get it done, maybe it’s time for us to turn a page,’ I don’t think that will be the case, but we’ll see. Right now, all I know is I want to win.”

Miami is among the teams waiting to see whether Portland makes Lillard available. Lillard, 32, is under contract for the next three seasons with a $63 million player option for 2026–27. And while Lillard doesn’t have a no-trade clause, the Blazers won’t just ship him anywhere. Still, the return for Lillard would be significant. He’s a proven playoff performer who averaged a career-best 32.2 points per game last season. Miami would throw every asset it had at Portland to land Lillard. New York and Brooklyn are expected to be aggressive, too. Cronin is doing everything he can to give the Blazers a chance to win with Lillard on the roster. If he can’t, we could finally reach the point where Lillard and Portland part ways.
 

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13. Toronto Raptors – SG Jalen Hood-Schifino – Indiana

Both Fred VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr. may very well depart from the Toronto Raptors in free agency, which is why some kind of rebuild is on the horizon for one of the Eastern Conference’s most successful franchises over the last decade.
Outside of Scottie Barnes, there are questions about who will and who will not stay in Toronto, which is why finding a well-rounded guard with upside is a must. Jalen Hood-Schifino is a much better shooter than his numbers may suggest, and he’s a lengthy guard who has the potential to be a two-way presence. The Raptors are always looking to take lengthy players who can make an impact defensively. With new head coach Darko Rajakovic, it appears as if adding young players who the new staff can focus on developing will be key. Keep an eye on Toronto, though, as there have been whispers in league circles that they are looking to be aggressive and move up into the top five of this year’s draft. This organization always does their best to remain quiet, which is why there is a lot of unknown surrounding this team.
 

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In isolation, the choices the Raptors are facing aren’t all that significant for an NBA team. Rare is the franchise not dealing with important player personnel decisions. But given where the Raptors stand and the number of seemingly interconnected choices they have to make, it’s not too much of a stretch to suggest that the calls the front office makes — or don’t make — in the coming weeks will shape the Raptors' direction for years to come.

And while it’s common to suggest the Raptors are shrouding the entire process in mystery, that’s not necessarily the case. They haven’t published a manifesto or anything, but their words and actions certainly provide some basis for what direction things might take in the coming weeks.

Perhaps the most significant thing is that there isn’t an appetite to tear things down and start over, as we’ve seen some other ‘limbo’ teams do in recent years.
The Washington Wizards moving on from Bradley Beal on the weekend being the most recent example of that, and how moves made by the Utah Jazz last summer or the Orlando Magic, San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder before that can be categorized.

Breaking things up and selling them off for parts has never been seriously entertained in private conversations I’ve had. Publicly the stance hasn’t been all that different. The Raptors don’t see themselves as all that inferior — if at all — to the Miami Heat, who have made the NBA Finals two of the last four seasons. The ‘lowly’ Knicks made the second round this year, and the Sixers, Bucks — and even the Celtics — have proven themselves beatable in the right circumstances.

Why step back if you believe yourself not all that far behind?


“There is parity in the league, and I just don’t view breaking down a team as the only way to build a team,” Ujiri said at his end of season media conference.

There are always caveats about opportunities unseen that may present themselves. This time last year it was a Kevin Durant trade request. Last week it was Bradley Beal — though with Beal wielding a no-trade clause, he had the power to dictate where Washington could trade him. The Raptors aren’t dogmatic; they’re open to possibilities.

But the most likely scenario? The biggest move they make this summer has already happened with the parting of head coach Nick Nurse and the jettisoning of his staff.

“What I’m hearing now is they’re not going to trade from their core,” said one league source.

Said another: “It wouldn’t surprise me if they run it back. There is a lot of holding and waiting going on.”

Ignoring whether they should or not, the challenge is how, exactly, they can thread the needle and pay good players their market value while avoiding the luxury tax, which would kick in on cumulative salaries above $162 million.
 

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I wonder if the beal trade changed up what we can get

Not likely, Beal had a NTC which is almost unheard of in the NBA which severely damages his trade value since he controls where he goes and how much a team gives up as he can VETO a trade to a team that would offer up too much, thus hampering his chances to succeed on that team. He also has HUGE salary by even NBA standards so hes costing a great amount in luxury tax. None of those issues are present with the Raptors players on the block.
 

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I wonder if the beal trade changed up what we can get
There is some speculation that Portland might move Dame.

Trading OG for one okay pick and a bunch of late 1sts isn't a great deal. There needs to be quality.

If trades aren't there, then running it back might make sense.
 
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There is some speculation that Portland might move Dame.

Trading OG for one okay pick and a bunch of late 1sts isn't a great deal. There needs to be quality.

If trades aren't there, then running it back might make sense.

If they offer the 3rd and other picks, they should jump on it for anyone not named Barnes.
 

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Toronto has been linked to Charlotte’s second overall pick and Portland’s third, although it’s hardly breaking news that executives from a team that’s missed the playoffs two out of three years would be exploring all possibilities. And it’s been well documented through a recent seven-week search for a new coach that Ujiri and Webster do thorough due diligence. It would be derelict if they didn’t make calls and have conversations about moving up when the prize could be highly regarded G League guard Scoot Henderson.

What makes this draft unique for the Raptors, and is feeding much of the anticipation that something substantial might happen Thursday night, is that Toronto needs to rejuvenate the roster and has more bits than usual to parcel with the 13th pick.

Would they entertain offers for Pascal Siakam?

Could they be convinced to part with Anunoby?

How does Thad Young’s $8-million contract (U.S.), only $1 million of which is guaranteed, fit into any possible deal as financial ballast?

And what of Gary Trent Jr. who has to decide Tuesday whether to opt in to the final year of his contract? If Trent, as unlikely as it may seem, decides to come back for the final year at roughly $18.5 million, is that expiring contract movable in a larger transaction?


Ujiri, Webster and Tolzman aren’t divulging anything, even the names of prospects they’ve had in Toronto for workouts. It is, and always has been, the way they operate, which makes the sourced reports of what the Raptors might do so tiring. The organization doesn’t leak information. Much of what is being tossed around is guesswork or extrapolation, and gives Raptors management little credit for keeping their intent under wraps.

One other reason for increased hope that something substantial will happen — and substantial doesn’t guarantee successful — is Ujiri’s wish to have the franchise somehow reset itself from last season.
 

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13. Keyonte George

Baylor, Freshman


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TORONTO RAPTORS

The Raptors haven’t released any of their works in this predraft season. Could we have another Bruno Caboclo situation on our hands? There have also been rumblings about their interest in perimeter scorers. Multiple league sources say they made calls to the Wizards about Bradley Beal, but he only had interest in Phoenix. I also reported last week that the Raptors have interest in moving into the top three to take Scoot. But if they stay here, let’s go with George, who would be a dynamic talent alongside Scottie Barnes and whoever else the Raptors end up keeping.

15. Jalen Hood-Schifino

Indiana, Freshman


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ATLANTA HAWKS

League sources have connected the Hawks to a whole bunch of teams in trade talks—the Celtics, Mavericks, and Raptors. One of the players Atlanta has interest in is Toronto’s Pascal Siakam, who would give the team some much-needed size around Trae Young. The Hawks front office is willing to trade anyone but Trae, so that means Dejounte Murray could be a valuable piece in negotiations. And perhaps we’ll finally see a John Collins move.
A team moving into this spot might have interest in Hood-Schifino, whom scouts love because of his combination of size and playmaking ability.
 
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13. Toronto Raptors

Jalen Hood-Schifino
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Age: 20.0


The Raptors have a plethora of options at their disposal that could see them end up anywhere on draft night -- higher up in the lottery, with another pick in the mid to late first round -- or possibly out altogether. Picking a shooter such as Dick or Jordan Hawkins, or pairing franchise stalwart Scottie Barnes with a versatile combo guard such as Bufkin, Nick Smith Jr. or Hood-Schifino is believed to be some of their most likely options according to rival teams. However, the amount of activity coming out of the Toronto front office makes it difficult to project what they will do. It's also not clear whether they will be able to meet the financial demands of center Jakob Poeltl in free agency, who prefers not to be in a rebuilding situation next season, sources told ESPN. Bufkin's fit with Barnes due to his experience playing off the ball, defensive tenacity and much-improved shooting has caused many to speculate that the Raptors are the ones who promised Bufkin this pick. -- Givony
 

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The world of NBA team building spins on the axis of star player movement. After the Washington Wizards ignited a rebuild by trading Bradley Beal to Phoenix on Sunday, plenty of rival teams, such as the Miami Heat, have shifted their attention onto Portland. Those eager front offices are eying Blazers All-NBA guard Damian Lillard, with hopes that any outcome of Thursday night’s NBA Draft — where the Blazers own the No. 3 pick — which doesn’t result in a trade for veteran upgrades around Portland’s cornerstone, may result in Lillard requesting a trade from the only franchise he’s ever known. They’re hoping if the Blazers take Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller, it means as much as waving Lillard goodbye.

The reality, though, does not appear so binary. Lillard, by all accounts, prefers to remain with Portland, and the Trail Blazers have not shown any willingness to discuss the seven-time All-Star with inquiring teams, league sources told Yahoo Sports. The Blazers view this entire offseason as their canvas to fortify a contender around Lillard, not just this week’s NBA draft, and free agency will bring additional opportunity to bolster this roster beyond plans to re-sign Jerami Grant. Portland has been exploring avenues to deal the No. 3 pick, but in a draft that scouts have deemed holds three top prospects, the Blazers are strongly valuing their selection in talks with opposing teams, sources said. Portland appears unlikely to part with the No. 3 choice unless the Blazers are netting back one of a select number of premium targets to pair with Lillard. According to one source with knowledge of the situation, Portland is preparing what the team believes to be a compelling package for Miami to part with All-Defensive centerpiece Bam Adebayo.

A switchable, backline anchor such as Adebayo would bring instant improvement to a Portland team that ranked 28th in defensive efficiency during the 2022-23 campaign. Adebayo’s presence and versatility has helped power Miami to two Finals appearances in the past four seasons. He and Lillard played together for Team USA in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and have developed a close friendship, but the Heat have primarily searched to supplement Adebayo in recent transaction cycles, sources said, and have not pondered a future without him starring in the frontcourt.
Miami has targeted additional power forward help ever since the departure of P.J. Tucker last summer in free agency. Adebayo is a team favorite and a key hub of the Heat’s offense. Miami brass seems very unlikely to consider any Portland overture that doesn’t include standout rookie Shaedon Sharpe, in addition to a package of the No. 3 pick and Anfernee Simons that the Blazers, sources said, have made available in discussions with other teams.

If Adebayo ultimately marks someone on the Blazers’ wishlist and nothing more, at least Portland’s pursuit of the two-time All-Star reveals the type of talent it will take for this front office to part with the third selection. The Blazers have been linked by league personnel to both Raptors forwards Pascal Siakam and OG Anunoby, but Portland doesn’t truly covet either Toronto player for the No. 3 selection, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Zach LaVine, the Bulls All-Star guard who flirted with Portland as he reached unrestricted free agency last June, also does not appear to be a legitimate target for the Blazers. For all the speculation about Minnesota sharpshooter Karl-Anthony Towns, there has been no apparent interest from either the Wolves or Blazers, sources said, on deal frameworks surrounding Towns for the third pick. Portland, sources said, is targeting forwards with size at the top echelon of the league’s player hierarchy — someone like Adebayo or Clippers All-Star Paul George.
 

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I am surprised he opted in, rather then go for a pay day. He is a good piece regardless if we keep him or move him, thats a valuable asset we did not lose. Thursday is coming soon, some dominos are starting to fall...
 
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I am surprised he opted in, rather then go for a pay day. He is a good piece regardless if we keep him or move him, thats a valuable asset we did not lose. Thursday is coming soon, some dominos are starting to fall...
I would imagine he opted in because there is no multi-year $20 mill+ deal waiting for him. He may have Schroeder'd himself if he opted out.
 

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