Sheppy
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I find 80% of the women in the WWE are content just wrestling a really soft style. Is that wrong? Absolutely not. I just find the women in AEW want to push the envelope more, whether that’s right or wrong, I don’t know.
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Emperoreddy
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Ehh idk. I feel like the women in WWE, just like the men, aren't afraid of taking big bumps, especially for a PPV match.
Its just that super hardcore stuff isn't allowed in WWE for anyone and no one is allowed to blade. The other high risk stuff they tend to save for big PPVs
I also don't think it really makes sense how much AEW workers dip into the hardcore well. There is no real benefit to nearly killing yourself, or bleeding all over the place, on a show like Rampage.
Save the career shortening spots for special occasions. Not for weekly TV that no one is really watching
Its just that super hardcore stuff isn't allowed in WWE for anyone and no one is allowed to blade. The other high risk stuff they tend to save for big PPVs
I also don't think it really makes sense how much AEW workers dip into the hardcore well. There is no real benefit to nearly killing yourself, or bleeding all over the place, on a show like Rampage.
Save the career shortening spots for special occasions. Not for weekly TV that no one is really watching
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The F5 is one the lamest finishing moves of all time. Brock literally just picks up an opponent and drops them with 180° spin that adds no force. The announcers try to put it over as a such a destructive move but it doesn't look that way at all.
Emperoreddy
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Brock's suplexes look like they do way more damage.
I don't think anyone else doing an F5 would work though because yeah it's kind of a nothing move. Brock is such a freak specimen though that anything he does looks destructive.
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Beyond the injuries the "hardcore" style creates, another huge negative is the law of diminishing returns. The more you see something, the less impact it makes. If you see the same move over and over no matter what it is, it just starts having the impact of a common punch.
He brought legitimate credibility much like Brock does.
If you Have a guy that would batter every person on your roster in a legitimate fight that guy is your world champion.
It's why Ronda gets the women's title whenever she wants because she brings credibility and would kill every woman on the roster.
BigBadBruins7708
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Honestly a lot of finishers fit in that category of looking far less devastating than regular moves.
the AA for instance, its just a standing firemans carry.
Yeah there are really not a lot of finishers that look like they'd hurt in real life. F5 doesn't look really painful but it just looks cool and is one of my favourite finishers.
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There's definitely some others that don't look like they hurt with the AA being a perfect example. There's plenty that look like they do tho. The powerbomb and it's many variations are lot more high impact looking. Same with stuff like the Rock Bottom, Jackhammer, End of Days, chokeslams, spinebusters etc.
I think a lot of the best finishing moves are striking finishers like Kinshasa, GTS, Claymore, Black Mass etc and they look like they hurt. High impact Lariat's look great too with Okada's Rainmaker probably being the best right now. Lots of submissions look like they would hurt as well. I do agree that there's a lot of regular moves that look as devastating as a lot of finishing moves do.
Sheppy
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Cesaro’s pop up European uppercut should have been his finish for sure. Neutralizer was god awful.
The IC and US titles are pointless.
The IC and US are the #2 titles on their brands. but the brand split hasn't meant a damn thing since 2005 so they are actually the #2 and 3 belts in the company.
Now I assume everybody here is a hockey fan, because this is a hockey website why else would you be here? When was the last time you heard ANY athlete in ANY sport say their goal was to be
#2 or #3 in the world? The answer is never it's NEVER been said
But you have Sheamus and drew wanting the IC championship which means their is #2The tag titles are different because I could see wanting to win those with your buddy.
But the IC and US championship is literally wanting to be #2
The IC and US are the #2 titles on their brands. but the brand split hasn't meant a damn thing since 2005 so they are actually the #2 and 3 belts in the company.
Now I assume everybody here is a hockey fan, because this is a hockey website why else would you be here? When was the last time you heard ANY athlete in ANY sport say their goal was to be
#2 or #3 in the world? The answer is never it's NEVER been said
But you have Sheamus and drew wanting the IC championship which means their is #2The tag titles are different because I could see wanting to win those with your buddy.
But the IC and US championship is literally wanting to be #2
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Pro wrestling isn't a sport though, it's an entertainment show. You're comparing apples to oranges.
No I know it's not a sport but I like it when wrestling is logical and logically nobody would want those championships because Who wants to be #2?
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I get what you're saying but historically they were meant as a stepping stone to the world title. The IC title was a great way to build up guys like Hart and Michaels. It elevated guys Mr. Perfect and Razor too even if they never won the WWF world title. They haven't been used that way very much the past couple decades but Gunther is having a great IC title run right now. Logical or not I think it's better to have them around. If nothing else they make the stakes higher just by being a title match.
Tony Kahn needs to learn what the law of diminishing returns is. So many things on his show that would be a holy poop moment basically are rendered pointless because it happens all the time
I remember in the 90s that spot where the guy flings himself out of the ring onto a guy outside who catches him and falls over would happen once in a blue moon and it was like a huge moment. It now seems like on AEW that is done in most matches and even multiple times by a variety of people to the point you just start rolling your eyes and wish they would just do a normal punch since that would be more exciting.
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That's also happened on pretty much every WWE show the past 15 years. I don't think it's an AEW thing.
I'll be honest I stopped watching regularly around 2005/6. I only got into AEW recently because it sort of has a train wreck aspect to it with some decent things. The WWE on the other hand feels like stars on ice. The care more about the brand then actually pushing wrestlers so it's hard to get into it(although on a technical basis it is better than AEW as a whole)
Emperoreddy
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Yeah that spot is overused in both companies.
I was referring to much higher risk spots.
Big spots look cool. I totally get that, but it's not worth the risk to your health and career to do big spots weekly on TV when no one is going to remember it.
Save them for big shows once or twice a year if you are going to do them at all.
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This may be more of a prediction that's unpopular to me, but.....
Roman Reigns isn't dropping his titles until WM 41 (2025)
Roman Reigns isn't dropping his titles until WM 41 (2025)
BruinDust
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I tried really hard to like AEW. Dynamite comes on at a very convenient time for me each week. But the haphazard booking, never knowing who or what storylines will be featured each week. The massive roster that is unknown to a lot of casual wrestling fans. I gave their product a chance and they lost me by never giving me a reason to tune in week-after-week. I could be entralled by "Wrestler X" one week, and tune in the next week to see them again, and they aren't even mentioned. May be weeks before they are seen again. As a fan, you just don't know.
Maybe they have to rethink their product and have characters people can relate to like the 1980s Argentina federation Titanes en el Ring. Here is a classic match of the Mommy vs the Devil
SuzieQ88
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That's what you get when you a fan running a wrestling promotion and certain wrestlers being in charge of creative. They get the most time on tv. New wrestlers are there for a week or two and then they disappear. They ignored the originals and keep bringing in new people. Miro, Andrade and so many others are forgotten. I don't care about a match with Kenny and the Acrobats vs. Jon "touch me I bleed" Moxley. I feel bad for guys like Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson who have the most to offer and have been wasted in AEW. You have Jay freaking White and he has the gold bullet club? Who cares? I would have loved to see him step to Roman with his popularity but he is now hanging with Juice? Already on Rampage? What a waste.
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