Post-Game Talk: Undefeated when Ryan Reaves plays!

[Levitate]

Felt grim watching the Bruins top lines have their way matched up against like, what amounted to 1 decent line and and 3 fourth lines but good on them for sticking with it
I honestly think Lundkvist still probably has this spot as his to lose and he's not hurting his case. He's not perfect out there but he only has so start on the third pair and provide some solid minutes and some pop and see where it goes.
Schneider should be his real competition and while he's also been solid I just feel like they probably feel better with him getting some AHL time. Never know, however.

I think anyone who wins the spot is on a trial basis though. If Lundkvist or Schneider win it and then struggle two weeks into the season, they'll give the other guy a shot.

I'm not sure Jones is directly competing with Nils and I feel like his higher risk play might actually convince them to let him gain some experience in the A first

e: with Jones, that is to say I think Miller also has the spot locked down but again if he struggles hard early in the season he could be benched/sent down and other guys given a shot, though you never know if it will be Jones or Tinordi (barf)

 

[egelband]

Anyone else think Braden Schneider sneakily had a great game.

he made some great defensive plays including stealing a sure fire goal from Pasta.

not flashy but showed strong d awareness and strength in tying players up

I picked him as one of my players of the game. He was very noticeable in a good way.

 

[LokiDog]

We’re going to see:

Panarin
Zib
Strome
Kreider
Laf
Kakko
Chytil
Goodrow
Kravtsov
Rooney
Blais
Reaves
Hunt

As our 13 forwards

Fox
Lindgren
Trouba
Miller
Nemeth
Lundkvist/Schneider/Jones
Hajek/Tinordi/Bitteto

as our 7 D

There were no preseason battles. The lineup is as obvious as possible. Line combos could be a toss up but the roster is exactly as we all would have predicted. The only toss up is whether Lundkvist or Schneider grabs this six spot and whether they give the 7 to Bitteto, Hajek or Tinordi.

 

[mas0764]

He already is but i suspect that spot is Lundkvist 's to lose.

Trouba will be gone in 2-3 years

 

[Clark Kellogg]

We’re going to see:

Panarin
Zib
Strome
Kreider
Laf
Kakko
Chytil
Goodrow
Kravtsov
Rooney
Blais
Reaves
Hunt

As our 13 forwards

Fox
Lindgren
Trouba
Miller
Nemeth
Lundkvist/Schneider
Hajek/Tinordi/Bitteto

as our 7 D

There were no preseason battles. The lineup is as obviously as possible. Line combos could be a toss up but the roster is exactly as we all would have predicted. The only toss up is whether Lundkvist or Schneider grabs this six spot and whether they give the 7 to Bitteto, Hajek or Tinordi.

No Jones?

 

[LokiDog]

No Jones?

I think Jones should have played his way into the team but Galant (in an interview yesterday?) said Nemeth is a lock and Lindgren-Fox and Miller
-Trouba are set in stone. I am assuming he’s going to go with a righty for the six spot, even if Jones played a bit better, but I’d add Jones to the Lundkvist/Schneider group for #6.

 

[gravey9]

We’re going to see:

Fox
Lindgren
Trouba
Miller
Nemeth
Lundkvist/Schneider
Hajek/Tinordi/Bitteto

as our 7 D

I honestly don't know what to make of our D. On the one hand, I agree with this assessment with Jones in the equation. But on the other hand, with the exception of Lindgren, Fox and Schneider, the rest of our D squad belongs in two buckets.

Big guys who can skate ok and defend but are mediocre at possession and thus we get hemmed in our own zone.

Small-ish guys who are decent skaters very good at outlet passes and vision, but aren't great at immediately shutting down opposing cycles. So, again, we can get hemmed in at times as a result.

As a result, I think we need to lean towards the big guy who can make the best outlet pass or the small guy who will be the best at shutting down the opposing cycle.

If I were making a D Depth chart for the start of this season based on preseason eval and ISN'T based on how i thought the Rangers org saw it, I would go:

Fox
Lindgren
Lundkvist
Schneider
Trouba
Jones
Nemeth
Miller

I would like err on the side of not having fox lundkvist jones all in the same lineup. So, Nemeth would dress over Jones. But I personally would be focused on smart players over just burl and grit back there. I know you need both, but I think elite hockey IQ makes your team far more dangerous on any given shift.

 

[gravey9]

We’re going to see:

Panarin
Zib
Strome
Kreider
Laf
Kakko
Chytil
Goodrow
Kravtsov
Rooney
Blais
Reaves
Hunt

As our 13 forwards

At this point, Gauthier should beat Hunt. But will he? But i might keep Hunt around as 14th forward.

 

[LokiDog]

I honestly don't know what to make of our D. On the one hand, I agree with this assessment with Jones in the equation. But on the other hand, with the exception of Lindgren, Fox and Schneider, the rest of our D squad belongs in two buckets.

Big guys who can skate ok and defend but are mediocre at possession and thus we get hemmed in our own zone.

Small-ish guys who are decent skaters very good at outlet passes and vision, but aren't great at immediately shutting down opposing cycles. So, again, we can get hemmed in at times as a result.

As a result, I think we need to lean towards the big guy who can make the best outlet pass or the small guy who will be the best at shutting down the opposing cycle.

If I were making a D Depth chart for the start of this season based on preseason eval and ISN'T based on how i thought the Rangers org saw it, I would go:

Fox
Lindgren
Lundkvist
Schneider
Trouba
Jones
Nemeth
Miller

I would like err on the side of not having fox lundkvist jones all in the same lineup. So, Nemeth would dress over Jones. But I personally would be focused on smart players over just burl and grit back there. I know you need both, but I think elite hockey IQ makes your team far more dangerous on any given shift.

I agree with a the majority of this. I’m only going based off Galant literally saying it’s:

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Nemeth - X

I’d rather see

Lindgren - Fox
Jones - Trouba
Nemeth - Lundkvist
Miller - Schneider

and flip a coin between that last pairing, but it seems Galant has made up his mind about all but the last Dman.

 

[egelband]

I think Jones should have played his way into the team but Galant (in an interview yesterday?) said Nemeth is a lock and Lindgren-Fox and Miller
-Trouba are set in stone. I am assuming he’s going to go with a righty for the six spot, even if Jones played a bit better, but I’d add Jones to the Lundkvist/Schneider group for #6.

I think giving Miller a few weeks in HFD to spread his wings a bit would have been a good idea but I guess Gallant doesn’t see it that way.
And the FO almost always sides with the coach over me

 

[egelband]

At this point, Gauthier should beat Hunt. But will he? But i might keep Hunt around as 14th forward.

I’m still holding out hope that Gauthier gets a shot within the top nine. If not immediately, then, at least as soon as there’s an injury.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I hope everybody remembers that Kravtsov doesn’t believe in trying in the preseason. He said he found it strange that people told him to smile when he scored in the preseason, he said it doesn’t count! He means business. You’ll see by looking at his playoff stats that are the best in KHL history, he rises to the competition. He also plays down to it. That’s why he sucked in the AHL. He’ll also be far better in the NHL than KHL. 70pts and I have put some serious money on it!

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I thought Gauthier has actually been stringing together some good hockey. Not sure it’s enough to earn a spot, but it wouldn’t shock me if it was.

 

[Slurpeelover27]

I hope everybody remembers that Kravtsov doesn’t believe in trying in the preseason. He said he found it strange that people told him to smile when he scored in the preseason, he said it doesn’t count! He means business. You’ll see by looking at his playoff stats that are the best in KHL history, he rises to the competition. He also plays down to it. That’s why he sucked in the AHL. He’ll also be far better in the NHL than KHL. 70pts and I have put some serious money on it!

Sorry but too many red flags in what you said. I could believe this if he has actually done something in the NHL but he obviously hasn’t done anything yet. Not the kind of mentality that works for many and so I hope you didn’t wager too much that he will hit 70 points. Your odds must be fantastic at least.

 

[egelband]

I thought Gauthier has actually been stringing together some good hockey. Not sure it’s enough to earn a spot, but it wouldn’t shock me if it was.

Gauthier should either get a shot in the top nine or be first in line in case of an injury. I think he will be, at worst, on the roster.

 

[chosen]

Chytil has been outplayed by a few players, he may be young but I don't think he will ever put it together. I hope he finds another home this year.

Still think he should be a wing.

 

[Vitto79]

I thought Gauthier has actually been stringing together some good hockey. Not sure it’s enough to earn a spot, but it wouldn’t shock me if it was.

it should be enough since they have space for him under the cap

 

[chosen]

I honestly don't know what to make of our D. On the one hand, I agree with this assessment with Jones in the equation. But on the other hand, with the exception of Lindgren, Fox and Schneider, the rest of our D squad belongs in two buckets.

Big guys who can skate ok and defend but are mediocre at possession and thus we get hemmed in our own zone.

Small-ish guys who are decent skaters very good at outlet passes and vision, but aren't great at immediately shutting down opposing cycles. So, again, we can get hemmed in at times as a result.

As a result, I think we need to lean towards the big guy who can make the best outlet pass or the small guy who will be the best at shutting down the opposing cycle.

If I were making a D Depth chart for the start of this season based on preseason eval and ISN'T based on how i thought the Rangers org saw it, I would go:

Fox
Lindgren
Lundkvist
Schneider
Trouba
Jones
Nemeth
Miller

I would like err on the side of not having fox lundkvist jones all in the same lineup. So, Nemeth would dress over Jones. But I personally would be focused on smart players over just burl and grit back there. I know you need both, but I think elite hockey IQ makes your team far more dangerous on any given shift.

Your pre-season eval has Trouba over Jones or am I misunderstanding your statement?

 

[chosen]

I hope everybody remembers that Kravtsov doesn’t believe in trying in the preseason. He said he found it strange that people told him to smile when he scored in the preseason, he said it doesn’t count! He means business. You’ll see by looking at his playoff stats that are the best in KHL history, he rises to the competition. He also plays down to it. That’s why he sucked in the AHL. He’ll also be far better in the NHL than KHL. 70pts and I have put some serious money on it!

Hope you got 50-1.

 

[itsPLkielbasa]

How has Nemeth played? Wasn't he signed because of Lundkvist?

He's taking up a spot from one of the kids and Tinordi skates like he's in quicksand.

I love how Barron has played. It sucks he'll probably not make it. Nice to have depth though.

 

[egelband]

How has Nemeth played? Wasn't he signed because of Lundkvist?

He's taking up a spot from one of the kids and Tinordi skates like he's in quicksand.

I love how Barron has played. It sucks he'll probably not make it. Nice to have depth though.

I feel like Barron hasn’t gotten much run. Am I just missing him? I’ve seen him take good angles and use his body well. And he has a reasonably quick first step. But mostly I haven’t noticed him.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I honestly don't know what to make of our D. On the one hand, I agree with this assessment with Jones in the equation. But on the other hand, with the exception of Lindgren, Fox and Schneider, the rest of our D squad belongs in two buckets.

Big guys who can skate ok and defend but are mediocre at possession and thus we get hemmed in our own zone.

Small-ish guys who are decent skaters very good at outlet passes and vision, but aren't great at immediately shutting down opposing cycles. So, again, we can get hemmed in at times as a result.

As a result, I think we need to lean towards the big guy who can make the best outlet pass or the small guy who will be the best at shutting down the opposing cycle.

If I were making a D Depth chart for the start of this season based on preseason eval and ISN'T based on how i thought the Rangers org saw it, I would go:

Fox
Lindgren
Lundkvist
Schneider
Trouba
Jones
Nemeth
Miller

I would like err on the side of not having fox lundkvist jones all in the same lineup. So, Nemeth would dress over Jones. But I personally would be focused on smart players over just burl and grit back there. I know you need both, but I think elite hockey IQ makes your team far more dangerous on any given shift.

Schneider and Nils have been very good but no way they are ahead of Trouba based on experience alone, let’s get real here

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I’m ready to see the full lineup, whatever it may be, with true combos.

Nemeth said in his interview they haven’t even talked about systems yet. Need to get going with that, whatever it may be.

10 days until the season starts, two preseason games left. Start Igor for a full and Georgy for the other one.

There are 8 days available for practices but they will be on their bonding trip for 3 (?) of them. The real games are coming up quick and not much time to work on systems.

Which leads me to believe (it’s no rocket science) that Gallant and Kelly will have a very simple system. Quinn would have had them practicing systems play already for 4 practices. Already overthinking shit.

That may be the reason alone Gallant isn’t pushing anything on them. Maybe he just wants to get to know the players and used the feedback from the exit interviews with Quinn.

Id be lying if I said it didn’t concern me a little. Gallant is extremely hands off with the players in a lot of ways. I don’t know if that’s will be a good or bad thing with this group.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I GOT IT.


Julien Gauthier is not only the F version of K'Andre Miller....he's the real life version of Luis Mendoza.

 

[eco's bones]

I hope everybody remembers that Kravtsov doesn’t believe in trying in the preseason. He said he found it strange that people told him to smile when he scored in the preseason, he said it doesn’t count! He means business. You’ll see by looking at his playoff stats that are the best in KHL history, he rises to the competition. He also plays down to it. That’s why he sucked in the AHL. He’ll also be far better in the NHL than KHL. 70pts and I have put some serious money on it!

I’m sure someone here will remind you of that at season’s end if he doesn’t come anywhere near that. If you’re asking me you made a bad bet. I would think a 40 point season would be a pretty successful one for him this year. He’s got talent but he ain’t Panarin.