Player Discussion Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen (2017, 54th)

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Anyone else get the sense from Adams presser last night that UPL's agent was looking to slap some pee pees yesterday? Sounds like Kevyn had to do a little damage control after the Murray trade leaked.

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Anyone else get the sense from Adams presser last night that UPL's agent was looking to slap some pee pees yesterday? Sounds like Kevyn had to do a little damage control after the Murray trade leaked.

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Huh what did you hear? I don't see why there's any scenario where UPL should feel he's entitled to anything.
 
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Huh what did you hear? I don't see why there's any scenario where UPL should feel he's entitled to anything.
It was very anecdotal. I either read in the coverage, or Adams mentioned during one of the video interviews, that he had spoken to UPLs agent later the day the Murray news leaked.
 

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It was very anecdotal. I either read in the coverage, or Adams mentioned during one of the video interviews, that he had spoken to UPLs agent later the day the Murray news leaked.
Anyone else get the sense from Adams presser last night that UPL's agent was looking to slap some pee pees yesterday? Sounds like Kevyn had to do a little damage control after the Murray trade leaked.

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They've said since the season ending press conferences that they want Luukkonen to get more development games. That there might be a player acquired to play in the NHL ahead of UPL should not be news to his agent unless he's been hiding under a rock since May.
 
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They've said since the season ending press conferences that they want Luukkonen to get more development games. That there might be a player acquired to play in the NHL ahead of UPL should not be news to his agent unless he's been hiding under a rock since May.

And I am not sure how I didn't know this, but UPL isn't signed right now. So the agent contact is probably contract-related.
 

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They've said since the season ending press conferences that they want Luukkonen to get more development games. That there might be a player acquired to play in the NHL ahead of UPL should not be news to his agent unless he's been hiding under a rock since May.

Agent: Do you honestly think that Matt Murray should be starting over my client?

KA (sweating): f*** no! I just wanted the high pick. We would have flipped him to the Leafs!

The laws of supply and demand tell me that we need to get used to the idea that UPL is the 1A in our platoon. Time for him to flap his wings and vacate the nest. And that may be a good thing.

If he flops in camp, they may need to make an emergency acquisition. It will cost a lot more than any of us want to pay.
 

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The laws of supply and demand tell me that we need to get used to the idea that UPL is the 1A in our platoon. Time for him to flap his wings and vacate the nest. And that may be a good thing.

If he flops in camp, they may need to make an emergency acquisition. It will cost a lot more than any of us want to pay.

I would actually be alright with this if I believed UPL could play 45 games and stay healthy, but I do not believe that possible.

I felt the same way about Ulmark, to be honest, but Ulmark did not have a 42 year old back-up that signed a contract on the agreement that he would not play very many games.

I think having Anderson as the back-up is the big issue with a lot of the proposed solutions - it restricts the options.
 

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I would actually be alright with this if I believed UPL could play 45 games and stay healthy, but I do not believe that possible.

I felt the same way about Ulmark, to be honest, but Ulmark did not have a 42 year old back-up that signed a contract on the agreement that he would not play very many games.

I think having Anderson as the back-up is the big issue with a lot of the proposed solutions - it restricts the options.
Between Buffalo and Rochester, he started 44 games last year, I believe.
 

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But the key is to not have him miss long stretches of time.

If he is out for weeks straight, I worry Anderson won't hold up playing several games in a row.

Then we are once again on the emergency call-up express.
It might be prudent to carry three NHL goalies on the roster until the trade deadline.
 
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That creates strain in the practice and game rotation and very likely won't be what they are doing. Carrying an AHL tender who can come up and play akin to Tokarski or Subban? Yes.
I'm sure you're right about that. But those two can't be bounced to the AHL without clearing waivers. Risky. You could see Houser back up here that way.

Putting UPL in Rochester with very few competent blue-liners is also risky -- to his confidence and to his body. If they sign someone like Comrie and UPL looks like a .917 goalie at camp, how do you work that?
 

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I'm sure you're right about that. But those two can't be bounced to the AHL without clearing waivers. Risky. You could see Houser back up here that way.

Putting UPL in Rochester with very few competent blue-liners is also risky -- to his confidence and to his body. If they sign someone like Comrie and UPL looks like a .917 goalie at camp, how do you work that?

If they are being recalled due to injury, they don't have to clear waivers. :D
 

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I'm sure you're right about that. But those two can't be bounced to the AHL without clearing waivers. Risky. You could see Houser back up here that way.

Putting UPL in Rochester with very few competent blue-liners is also risky -- to his confidence and to his body. If they sign someone like Comrie and UPL looks like a .917 goalie at camp, how do you work that?

If any team is was actually considering putting a claim for Tokarski or Subban, I'd be shocked, especially since this will be during training camp when they are sent down. Worst case scenario, when the team that claims them waives them again, you put in a claim. If no other team puts in a claim, you can immediately send them to Rochester.
 

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CAN A SKATE HELP YOUR HIPS?​

The idea that ankle flex might also help reduce wear and tear in the hips wasn’t something we went into the testing phase expecting, but after hearing similar sentiments from Lindgren, Hawthorne and a couple other younger testers, it had to be mentioned.

That is especially true given some of the concerns we’ve heard from NHL goalie coaches about a rise in injuries they think might be tied to the trend towards stiff skates chasing the “no lost energy transfer” mantra. With the angle between the foot and shin more fixed in those newer, stiffer traditional skates, all that energy has to go somewhere when you slide into a post, or grab an edge to stop a powerful lateral slide in the butterfly, and some coaches are concerned its going up the chain into the knees and hips, a concern mentioned to Elliotte Friedman for one of his weekly 32 Thoughts columns on Sportsnet this season. If that theory is correct, would goalies in KONEKT notice less stress on knees and hips because of the give in the ankle?

“Oh, yeah,” Lindgren said. “The last couple of years my ankles I felt would get tight and that would translate up — it’s all a chain — and then my hips would get tight. My body felt great this year, my hips felt awesome, and I think it’s because of that mobility, and the ability for my ankle to be able to have that movement where it’s not so locked in that I feel super tight.”

Again, it’s just anecdotal evidence, but Hawthorne echoed those sentiments.

“Particularly as somebody who has dealt with hip problems, the extra ankle mobility is wonderful,” he said. “The fit is great, probably the best-feeling Bauer I’ve had.”

I wonder if UPL will be trying them out this season...
 

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I wonder if UPL will be trying them out this season...
This reminds me of, as a football/baseball player from age 8, how the transition to/from snow ski boots was so difficult. Not having any flexion in my ankle, which I was so accustomed to and reliant on in other sports, caused some significant soreness for my knees and hips. I pretty much gave up on snow skiing around age 20 because of it. I don't pay enough attention to hockey/goalie equipment to know of these issues until just now seeing that article, but it makes perfect sense to me. The resistance has to go somewhere, and taking out 1/3 of major joints to deal with it will take a toll somewhere.
 
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