GWT: UCL R16 First Legs

[luiginb]

Tuchel's Chelsea reminds me sometimes of those great Mourinho teams. They could have beaten you with talent, they could have beaten you by hard work, but they mostly preferred to beat you by boring you to death. I don't know who Lille's coach is, but he made some questionable decisions. Put in Ben Arfa at half time for Onana who looked over his head in that position, and this is a winnable game. Never mind putting in Burak who looks like he lives in a McDonalds and not Weah earlier.

Arthur is so useless. A worse Paredes. Just recycles the ball.

At least Paredes is mean.

 

[Peen]

Ask yourself the same thing with Klopp's signings.
Mane? 11 goals?
Salah? Didn't cut it.
Firmino? Can't score.
Chelsea's signings have a way better pedigree. Yet they're not delivering.

Which league title did Liverpool win while Mane was scoring ten goals a season?

Oh, they didn’t win at that point. Makes sense.

 

[cgf]

Kai at the 9 in the CL? Easy win.

 

[Juve]

Fracture in his foot. It's a shame. He and Locatelli are our best midfielders.

 

[Live in the Now]

That f***ing sucks. We have no midfielders for the NT who can play anywhere near as well as him. Adams is good but the difference in quality is really clear to me, and we have two very difficult matches coming up and need to win one of them IMO. Our coach also sucks so all in all not good.

 

[kingsboy11]

That f***ing sucks. We have no midfielders for the NT who can play anywhere near as well as him. Adams is good but the difference in quality is really clear to me, and we have two very difficult matches coming up and need to win one of them IMO. Our coach also sucks so all in all not good.

Berhalter now has an excuse to find a way to get Roldan or Lletget back into the starting 11 for the last qualifying window. Literally couldn't have come at worse time. I just thought he simply rolled his ankle and they were being cautious and now he's out 2 months with a broken foot. Absolutely gutted.

 

[hatterson]

Why would it be at Wembley anyway?
They already benefited from the Euro games, why the CL final?

I wasn’t saying that Wembley is a good choice over the rest of Europe, there’s obviously dozens of quality venues in multiple countries that haven’t chosen to invade someone. It was merely a comment that Wembley is a better choice than OT if it was held in England if there were two English teams in the finals.

 

[cgf]

He just spent 120M on someone currently on the bench.

That's on the people above TT spending that much for a Kai-backup.

 

[Peen]

That's on the people above TT spending that much for a Kai-backup.

Every indication was that Tuchel was just as in favor of that signing as the board was.

 

[cgf]

No I don’t think tuchel is capable of playing an offensive system that matches his team. He’s a limited coach and he’s shown it time and time again. Like simeone. Not the first time I argue about a chelsea coach and guess who was right last time around?

TT has been erring on the side of caution since Pep trounced his BVB, but he can set up a creative & fluid attack when he actually tries to...the problem is that too often he is much more concerned with not getting taken advantage of; often even when he has the personnel to play more ambitiously.

I don't know what a pre-Atletic Simeone was like as a coach, but Tuchel had a creative background & understands how a fluid offensive system should opperate; he's just moved away from that creative background by focusing more on stopping other teams' fluidity than finding new ways to enhance his own teams'.

 

[cgf]

Every indication was that Tuchel was just as in favor of that signing as the board was.

Then that's on them for letting him spend that much money on a backup for Havertz

 

[cgf]

IMO what happened to Tuchel is that Liverpool-Dortmund tie made him think that playing attacking football in these games was pointless. They had better players, they played better for about 135 minutes of the tie, they kept chasing more goals, and then they lost anyway and he got blamed. Since then he hasn't used similar tactics in a knockout stage.

That & Pep getting the better of him. It really is a shame because TT was such an interesting trainer before the cynicism got to him.

 

[Evilo]

Which league title did Liverpool win while Mane was scoring ten goals a season?

Oh, they didn’t win at that point. Makes sense.

Huh I mean they signed him as a 11 goal scorer.

 

[Evilo]

I wasn’t saying that Wembley is a good choice over the rest of Europe, there’s obviously dozens of quality venues in multiple countries that haven’t chosen to invade someone. It was merely a comment that Wembley is a better choice than OT if it was held in England if there were two English teams in the finals.

I know. It's the fact that pretty much everyone seems to take it for granted.

 

[Evilo]

TT has been erring on the side of caution since Pep trounced his BVB, but he can set up a creative & fluid attack when he actually tries to...the problem is that too often he is much more concerned with not getting taken advantage of; often even when he has the personnel to play more ambitiously.

I don't know what a pre-Atletic Simeone was like as a coach, but Tuchel had a creative background & understands how a fluid offensive system should opperate; he's just moved away from that creative background by focusing more on stopping other teams' fluidity than finding new ways to enhance his own teams'.

Even with PSG facing small teams in L1 he didn't show any ambition.

 

[Live in the Now]

The problem with moving the CL Final is that they should move it to another cheap city. My research was telling me that St. Petersburg would be cheap compared to most places and would be good for fans. Moving it to London is the exact opposite of that and from my personal perspective if I got a ticket it would be more difficult to swing. Move it to Glasgow or something that's cheaper for fans. They just took a final away from Istanbul and that place is cheap. Move it there. If somehow I got a ticket I could make it there for a week, and I swore to myself I'd try to make the next European final Liverpool were in.

But of course UEFA will go for greed and pick London.

 

[Savant]

The problem with moving the CL Final is that they should move it to another cheap city. My research was telling me that St. Petersburg would be cheap compared to most places and would be good for fans. Moving it to London is the exact opposite of that and from my personal perspective if I got a ticket it would be more difficult to swing. Move it to Glasgow or something that's cheaper for fans. They just took a final away from Istanbul and that place is cheap. Move it there. If somehow I got a ticket I could make it there for a week, and I swore to myself I'd try to make the next European final Liverpool were in.

But of course UEFA will go for greed and pick London.

Just had an awful feeling about St James Park hosting this

 

[Savi]

This is brilliant

 

[Jussi]

I wasn’t saying that Wembley is a good choice over the rest of Europe, there’s obviously dozens of quality venues in multiple countries that haven’t chosen to invade someone. It was merely a comment that Wembley is a better choice than OT if it was held in England if there were two English teams in the finals.

I think people throw out Wembley out of habit due to it's history of arranging big events and being a big modern arena, without checking if it's even available.

 

[hatterson]

I think people throw out Wembley out of habit due to it's history of arranging big events and being a big modern arena, without checking if it's even available.

I assumed that events like the championship final would be adjusted if it was legitimately the only blocker to getting a CL final.

 

[Evilo]

Plenty of european stadiums are used to arranging big events in modern arenas.

 

[cgf]

Even with PSG facing small teams in L1 he didn't show any ambition.

Wasn't disagreeing with that. As I said, the shift started while he was still butting heads with Watzke, and since then (which includes his time in Paris) he has been far too cynical & uncourageous.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Lindelof at RB? Or a quasi 3 back?

 

[Jussi]

Lindelof at RB? Or a quasi 3 back?

I think Lindelöf's work in the build up to Bruno's goal on Sunday may have tempted this move. It certainly keeps him more out of his major weakness, ie. air balls.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Maybe that. Maybe it's something crazy like a back 3 with Shaw and Sancho as wing-backs and Rashnaldo upfront.