tigervixxxen
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Alright, when does he make the Avs and how does Jost fit in long term? Is he a center? Eventual 2C? Hopefully that means the Rantanen at center experiment doesn't need to continue too.
Prospect Info: Tyson Jost selected 10th overall
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cgf
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I think that depends on Duchene. If he stays and doesn't get moved to RW, then Jost probably plays on the wing; like ROR did. But if Matt leaves, he'll play Center, as he would if they prefer him at C with Matt at RW.
AvsGuy
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Is the Duchene at RW experiment over? I thought it worked well. I'd expect Jost to make the team not this year but the next - his skill level is close and apparently the program he'll be playing for next season is the balls. Plugged into the number 3 Center position and eventually up to number 2 - for whatever reason I don't expect Soderberg here by then.
McMetal
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I see Duchene moving to RW long term. He had a career year there and I see no reason to mess with that formula going forward. Jost will be the 2C whether or not Duchene stays. As for when, I really have to wait and see how his freshman season goes before I decide. If he has a dynamite year I can see him going to the AHL for part of a season after one year in college. Otherwise, I can see them being careful and going two years at UND. It's a good program and he will flourish there. Two years max though. And if it is two years, he will start in the NHL.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
Duchene played RW at the WC too, I think him playing there and still takes draws is the ideal at this point. I think Jost will be in serious convo for our roster after next year. But we'll see how he does at ND.
tigervixxxen
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cgf
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DJB
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Congratulations fellas. He was the guys I wanted the Sens to pick . You are going to love him. Plays like Toews.
Ararana
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oooh, good point. I hadn't made that connection yet. Hopefully this means Mikko stays on the RW where he belongs.
Two years from now:
Landy - Mack - Mikko
Grigs - Dutchy/Jost - Dutchy/Jost
*Maybe trade Dutchy for defensive help and replace him with Radulov/Boedker/FA
That's the first time I imagined our future top six with Jost. Very exciting
The Kingslayer
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Who knows man, I don't think anyone can be accurate on that.
He could be a Drouin/Huberdeau type who needs a year or two to gain strength, and still needs some physical development, or he may grow a bit and dominate in college.
Should be interesting seeing him against pro-sized guys in College for a year. NCAA scares me, but hes far better off at a College team than in our AHL system that is for sure.
I think people projecting a kid like that on our NHL roster next year (17-18) are pushing it personally.
College/AHL half to full season/NHL IMO
Rushing kids who need physical development is how you end up with a guy like RNH who can never get going because he spends 25% or more of the year injured IMO.
LieutenantDangle
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He's already stronger than the nuge. Not sure where all this "he's small/and or undersized" rhetoric is coming from, but it just isn't accurate. 5'11"/ 6' is fine. 190 @ age 17 and one of the strongest in the combine... I agree however that it will be exciting to see him play against grown men that are bigger and stronger than him. Have a feeling he'll handle it just fine
I'm not saying he is undersized, but he could use some physical development if hes going to play the two-way game he likes to play at the NHL level.
It's like Compher, hes proven he can do it against solid competition. That is something Jost has yet to prove playing in the BCHL IMO.
You just can't predict how his physical development will progress yet. So anyone saying he'll be ready for the NHL next year is reaching IMO.
LieutenantDangle
Barry McKockner
I'm definitely not saying he's NHL ready. I just don't have concerns that he'll develop as slowly as drouin physically
5'11 190 is a big kid. I'm 5'11 160 and I bench 225 clean. If hes consistent in the gym there's no reason he can't be strong enough to be in the league sooner than later.
Parise and Pavelski are both a similar size and they play BIG. Win a lot of battles based on sheer determination. Towes is 6'2, yes. But 200 pounds. I'd bet a 5'11 190 pounder is very similar strengthwise to him as well.
In fact strength is very mental in that way. It's will
I think he could press for a spot in 17-18, but would almost bet as long as things are going well in college he stays there for 2 years.
I'd expect him on the Avs 18-19 opening night roster
Tommy Shelby
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We don't need to rush him, just like we don't need to rush Rants. Let this mentally fragile train wreck of a franchise sort themselves out a bit more before throwing more kids straight into the fire.
We're no where near ready to be a serious playoff threat year after year, let the young guys develop like Tampa lets them.
We're no where near ready to be a serious playoff threat year after year, let the young guys develop like Tampa lets them.
cgf
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Avsblitzkrieg
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I'm gonna say two years, I think he'll be a C and yes I hope the avs put Mikko back at RW.
I think the avs have also shaken alot of preconceived notions about the management group. Small players, college kids, Nick holden.
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I don't think this stops the Rantanen at C experiment. Jost won't be on the team for at least another year and if the Avs don't trade Duchene they might decide to load up the top-6 instead of spreading the talent to three lines. I still believe Rantenen will be brought in slowly on the 3rd line. In fact I'll make a bold prediction that he will be the 3C.
I think that's possible if we bring in another RW, if we don't it gets pretty difficult to project a respectable forward roster without Mikko on the wing in the top six.
No one brought in...
Grigorenko - MacKinnon - Duchene
Landeskog - Soderberg - Rantanen
I mean that's pretty much what we have that has the talent to play at that level of competition and be effective. Mikko is still a question mark as well, but at least Grigorenko proved himself over the later half of last season.
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That's why they've burned up a lot of their originally planned window by not improving the D.
Duchene should stay on the wing IMO. Regardless of where Jost plays. Dutchy played his best hockey possibly of his NHL career on the wing, and he's basically our Radulov replacement as that highly skilled speedy left shooting RW'er.
