Value of: Tyson Barrie

[ManofSteel55]

Suspect is downplaying it, he's just horrible defensively. Good at breaking out passes, decent in transition, bottom pairing guy who can QB the PP, but absolute liability in his own end. It'll have to be a big add for a quality stay at home guy, especially if it's a RHD.

He isn't good defensively, but I would also like to point out that he has never been the absolute trainwreck defensively that he was in Toronto for the Oilers. It was common talk around here that Babcock didn't use him correctly and completely ruined his confidence because he was trying to change his game. He rebounded in Edmonton. He's no worse defensively than a lot of other offense first defensemen. He can play top pair RD if he is beside a strong LD, that's why he can work on Edmonton with Nurse. The issue is that we have Bouchard who is doing nearly everything Barrie does offensively, for a fraction of the cost.

 

[russ99]

Barrie has had a bad start defensively, but he's rebounded lately, resulting in an adequate 2.64 5x5 GA/60.

 

[Perennial]

Barrie for Zaitsev

Sens get an offensive D to lead their powerplay

Oilers get a bottom pairing RD

Both come with the same cap hit, and years remaining

 

[SirSamofHouseBennett]

I have never seen a player who led the NHL in points for his position get so much disrespect.

if it’s so easy, how come his replacement isn’t leading the league now?

 

[LTIR]

Barrie for Zaitsev

Sens get an offensive D to lead their powerplay

Oilers get a bottom pairing RD

Both come with the same cap hit, and years remaining

No thanks, Oilers need the cap space next season and would prefer a Subban over Zaitsev

 

[dracom]

Manson isn’t worth that….

funny you think we would even take that deal, not interested in bringing back another version of Shattenkirk

 

[GOilers88]

What about Barrie for Varlamov? Someone else on our board suggested it and I don't think it's terrible.

Possible?

 

[Mr Positive]

As an Oiler fan, I dont see us trading him. Maybe... if we really need that cap space

However

He is playing up to expectations and we can use him

He just signed a deal with term, leaving money on the table mind you. Its classless to trade him off.

It's not happening

 

[Alex12]

Any trade Edmonton makes aside from Mcdavid and Sucksaital involves them adding extra.

 

[Perennial]

What about Barrie for Varlamov? Someone else on our board suggested it and I don't think it's terrible.

Possible?

I suggested that a couple of weeks back...

I think it's a deal that works well for both teams

 

[Boondock]

He's still on pace for 40 points in a down year. He could very well have a strong finish and finish with 50 points+.

Last three seasons:
39 points in 70 games
48 points in 56 games
17 points in 36 games (around 40 point pace)

After this season, he will have 2 years remaining at 4.5M. Teams were offering him 6M on a 1 year contract. Oilers will get value from him. Maybe not much, but still not a cap dump.

I'm expecting a 2nd round pick + a minor prospect

So you're saying he is the right handed Shayne Gostisbehere? For reference Ghost was traded to the Yotes with a 2nd and a 7th for future considerations.

 

[SirSamofHouseBennett]

So you're saying he is the right handed Shayne Gostisbehere? For reference Ghost was traded to the Yotes with a 2nd and a 7th for future considerations.

when did Gostisbehere lead the NHL in points from his position?

 

[TGWL]

I'd try and get Mayfield in a trade. I suggested Barrie to the Islanders before and some fans were pretty irate about it. The Islanders PP is around 17% and in the bottom 3rd of the league so I think Barrie would help them a lot in that regard. Some replied he would only take away PP time from Pulock and Dobson. I guess he would because he'd be better on the powerplay than either of these two players right now.

Re: Manson Holland already stated he would not deal a 1st for a rental.

Islanders are currently on pace for 220 power play opportunities over the season, with 118 more opportunities to come. If they keep the current 17.7% pace, that's 21 more powerplay goals Islanders will score in their second half of the season. If Tyson Barrie comes and bumps that number to 25% for the remaining games, that's around 29/30 powerplay goals coming in the second half of the season. I'm not sure the difference really outweighs giving up a player like Mayfield. Especially when the difference might even include some more goals against. I'm not sure how much more production they would get even strength with rolling Barrie on the 3rd line.

By doing this I found out that Colorado is on pace for 305 power play opportunities and have lead the league in powerplay opportunities in each of the last 5 seasons.

 

[oxenfree]

when did Gostisbehere lead the NHL in points from his position?

Playing for the Leafs was the worst thing that ever happened to Barrie. The fanbase and media completely destroyed his reputation while misusing him.

He was fine on the Avs. He's fine on the Oilers. He's a good defenseman, he just didn't work out for the mighty TML so that makes him trash.

 

[Boondock]

when did Gostisbehere lead the NHL in points from his position?

Is that the 1 standard for comparing? When did Barrie have over 60 points? Both are fairly one dimensional offensive defenseman with flaws in their defensive game, signed at over $4million. Is that really a difficult stretch to see them as comparable?

 

[SirSamofHouseBennett]

Is that the 1 standard for comparing? When did Barrie have over 60 points? Both are fairly one dimensional offensive defenseman with flaws in their defensive game, signed at over $4million. Is that really a difficult stretch to see them as comparable?

The fact he lead the league in points is pretty unique. When was the last time such a notoriously bad player did something like that?

I’m simply saying, never have I seen a player disrespected like this with that level of credential.

 

[Boondock]

The fact he lead the league in points is pretty unique. When was the last time such a notoriously bad player did something like that?

I’m simply saying, never have I seen a player disrespected like this with that level of credential.

I've watched him at least 10 times this year and he hasn't been very good.
Not to discredit his scoring, but he led the league in a shortened season, playing only against Canadian teams (weakest division in the NHL that season). 48 points in 56 games is a very good offensive season. I still see him as a similar player to Gostisbehere

 

[McDoused]

I think Barrie is actually pretty underrated.

Two more years at 4.5M is a pretty good contract for a defenceman who has been on pace for 9 straight 40+ point seasons (pro-rated).

The Oilers right side is just a little one dimensional between Barrie and Bouchard.

 

[ElPrimeTime]

What about an offseason trade with the Habs for Savard (with some retention) and a mid round pick? Habs get a puck moving d-man, Oilers get a defensive RHD for their bottom pairing signed for 3 more years.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Barrie + protected 1st for Petry

 

[seanlinden]

I first have to ask myself, if Tyson Barrie were on waivers, would he be claimed?

My gut feeling is, yes.

Maybe a team like Buffalo who's kind of desperate for talent.... or a team like Columbus who gets absolutely no offense from the right side of their D. Probably the Devils too, given Subban being an impending UFA and Severson potential trade bait. The Islanders strike me as a team that might do it as well. They do love their vets. Philly would be a contender in my view as well -- they don't have the cap space, but presumably will come deadline time.

So the next question is, would any of those teams give up something for him? Again, I think the answer is probably yes. We're not talking about a 1st round pick or anything like that, but if you're Philly, and can go into the offseason with the security of Barrie for a couple of years on the right side, alongside Provorov, Sanheim and Ellis, I think it's probably something you like more than open market shopping.

Is he worth a lot? no... but a mid-round pick seems like a reasonable ask. Another poster mentioned Subban. If you figure Subban is worth a 3rd or 4th as a rental with 50% retention, I think you could probably make the case that they'd be better off getting Barrie.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

Most teams have no use for Barrie. Way too bad defensively.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What's less than nothing?

Me.

 

[belair]

Just thinking out loud, but how realistic would a trade where Barrie ends up in Vancouver and Tyler Myers ends up in Edmonton be?

Obviously not a straight swap, but the idea seems mutually beneficial. Barrie's family is in Vancouver and the Canucks powerplay hasn't been overly productive in the past couple seasons. The Oilers are missing the physical presence Adam Larsson brought and could use a more sturdy D partner for some of the younger guys breaking in.

I'm not sure how it'd work, but it's an interesting idea.

 

[belair]

Most teams have no use for Barrie. Way too bad defensively.

There are several teams that require help of their powerplay units and more that a few that could use an infusion of skilled depth.

Players who are known to be defensively irresponsible aren't really that unique. Ones that can outscore the majority of forwards in this league from the back end certainly are though.