Value of: Tyler Toffoli

[dellzor]

They can't keep loading up on slower skaters but yes that Bowness system is probably perfect for Toffoli lol



Loved him his draft year in 2019, what happened to him? Fell out of favor or legit just looks bad in the NHL?

Lost his confidence, was overthinking on his plays so he was sent down to the AHL to gain confidence and top minutes.

Had a great game today.

 

[canuckslover10]

He has been lackluster I'd trade a 2nd and kilimovich, rather not trade podkolzin since we could use him on our bottom 6 next year.

 

[Nocashstyle]

He has been lackluster I'd trade a 2nd and kilimovich, rather not trade podkolzin since we could use him on our bottom 6 next year.

He’s on pace for 35 goals lol.

A 2nd round pick that’s likely in the 60s and a winger who has been a healthy scratch in the AHL?

Yeah that offer would very easily be beat.

 

[FSL KINGS]

He’s on pace for 35 goals lol.

A 2nd round pick that’s likely in the 60s and a winger who has been a healthy scratch in the AHL?

Yeah that offer would very easily be beat.

That's the 2nd & Madden. Seems about right on.

 

[devsfan8]

I don't see why the Devils would trade Tyler IF he wants to stay and sign a new deal. As it stands he is currently the Devils only natural goal scorer. He fits in well here. Even if this season is a wash, the focus should be get him locked up on a new contract. This isn't a situation where the Devils are rebuilding and they have no cap issues.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I don't see why the Devils would trade Tyler IF he wants to stay and sign a new deal. As it stands he is currently the Devils only natural goal scorer. He fits in well here. Even if this season is a wash, the focus shield be get him locked up on a new contract. This isn't a situation where the Devils are rebuilding and have no cap issues.

Agreed, but why hasn't he signed

 

[devsfan8]

Agreed, but why hasn't he signed

The same was asked about Bratt. Contract discussions are a process.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I don't see why the Devils would trade Tyler IF he wants to stay and sign a new deal. As it stands he is currently the Devils only natural goal scorer. He fits in well here. Even if this season is a wash, the focus should be get him locked up on a new contract. This isn't a situation where the Devils are rebuilding and have no cap issues.

Toffoli already has a cup win. It’s probably his last chance at a nice payday. He’s going to want to be paid his market value. Unless he surprises everyone and takes a discount, there is better use of cap space for the Devils. They already have cap space tied up in aging players like Palat, no reason to do the same with Toffoli. He’s done well in NJ, but he’s streaky and slow. Once Ruff is gone, hopefully Holtz is utilized correctly and can replace some of the goals lost from Toffoli. Given Holtz’s ice time and linemates, his underlying goal numbers are pretty remarkable. He’s also younger and still on his ELC.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Maybe to Edmonton? I would trust him in the playoffs far more than McLeod, Foelgore, Janmark, Holloway to step up and score those big goals.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I don't see why the Devils would trade Tyler IF he wants to stay and sign a new deal. As it stands he is currently the Devils only natural goal scorer. He fits in well here. Even if this season is a wash, the focus should be get him locked up on a new contract. This isn't a situation where the Devils are rebuilding and they have no cap issues.

he is about to turn 32 years old and his footspeed does not fit in with the rest of the team. He is likely to get a contract not in line with what he should be getting as a 32 year old.

"natural" goal scorer? The Devils have 3 other guys who might hit 30 goals and thats not even counting Timo Meier.

 

[Gurglesons]

Re-signing Toffoli regardless of how good he has been is a really foolish move by the Devils.

They already have Palat and Haula why add another player 30+ to their top nine?

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I don't understand the logic of attempting to re-sign him at all, unless the offers for him are underwhelming it makes zero sense to keep him around.

 

[Thechozen1]

I'd like someone young, can pk, and that likes legos.

David Gustafsson

 

[Forge]

Re-signing Toffoli regardless of how good he has been is a really foolish move by the Devils.

They already have Palat and Haula why add another player 30+ to their top nine?

That's how we roll, baby. Anyone can be smart. We aren't trying to be just anyone

 

[ChaoticOrange]

He’s on pace for 35 goals lol.

A 2nd round pick that’s likely in the 60s and a winger who has been a healthy scratch in the AHL?

Yeah that offer would very easily be beat.

I worry about Toffoli's foot speed but he'd be an incredible winger for McDavid or Draisaitl. a guy that likes to hang back, find open space, and rip it is what we need. I think a Kane/Foegele-Draisaitl-Toffoli line would be fantastic.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

I worry about Toffoli's foot speed but he'd be an incredible winger for McDavid or Draisaitl. a guy that likes to hang back, find open space, and rip it is what we need. I think a Kane/Foegele-Draisaitl-Toffoli line would be fantastic.

Do the Oilers have cap space for Toffoli (50 % retained) or do they need to move someone out of the way? Would the Oilers trade their first for Toffoli or a 2nd + prospect?

 

[dgibb10]

That's the 2nd & Madden. Seems about right on.

Except toffoli's production is like double what it was back then

 

[Hunter368]

I could see the Jets kick the tires on him

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Do the Oilers have cap space for Toffoli (50 % retained) or do they need to move someone out of the way? Would the Oilers trade their first for Toffoli or a 2nd + prospect?

I think we could fit Toffoli at 50% without moving anyone out. We'd just have to waive someone like Gagner or Ryan or even just send down Holloway, who's waiver exempt. And yes, I'd move a first or a 2nd+ for him. Preferably 2nd+ of course. I think 2nd+Lavoie might be fair for all involved, he's our best prospect not named Holloway or Broberg (or Akey)

 

[dgibb10]

I think we could fit Toffoli at 50% without moving anyone out. We'd just have to waive someone like Gagner or Ryan or even just send down Holloway, who's waiver exempt. And yes, I'd move a first or a 2nd+ for him. Preferably 2nd+ of course. I think 2nd+Lavoie might be fair for all involved, he's our best prospect not named Holloway or Broberg (or Akey)

Lavoie cleared waivers I question if he'd have the value to bridge a 2nd to a 1st

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Lavoie cleared waivers I question if he'd have the value to bridge a 2nd to a 1st

he did, but he's also been named an AHL all star since. I think he's got some value on his own.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Except toffoli's production is like double what it was back then

He was a cup winner & 30 goal scorer at that point. Doubtful.

 

[dgibb10]

He was a cup winner & 30 goal scorer at that point. Doubtful.

Toffoli in the 2 years prior to his trade
140 games 31 goals 68 points
Toffoli last 2 years
142 games 60 goals 117 points

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Toffoli in the 2 years prior to his trade
140 games 31 goals 68 points
Toffoli last 2 years
142 games 60 goals 117 points

There aren't a lot of good wingers on the market either, which could increase his value.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Toffoli in the 2 years prior to his trade
140 games 31 goals 68 points
Toffoli last 2 years
142 games 60 goals 117 points

Playing him with a center that didn't have an Achilles tendon was the cause of this. He's still the same player. Maybe he gets a first from a desperate GM, but I wouldn't do more than a second & Madden.