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Answer the questionWhat # was our 10OA (and the second highest drafted prospect) on your recent list ?
Answer the questionWhat # was our 10OA (and the second highest drafted prospect) on your recent list ?
Awe man, another of my attempts at wry humour falling flat??Same as being lumped in to the haters group except more compassionate and understanding.
As you have said to me, I am not lumping you in there.
No, that chart is based on the prospects that NHL teams selected; however, the numbers are from TopDownHockey's model.Well, for one thing, 15 years is a pretty small sample.
I mentioned it before but 10 is a weird anomoly in that historically it's done more poorly than picks that follow it. You could throw a dart at McKenzie's 1st round list and get better results than historical 10 OA
I think the % are based on what the model would have chosen, not who actually got chosen.
Pick Position | Year Range | Star Prob | NHL Prob | WAR |
#1 | 2007-2021 | 74.62% | 96.54% | 227.4 |
#5 | 2007-2021 | 27.61% | 73.54% | 81.9 |
#10 | 2007-2021 | 22.69% | 56.43% | 41.9 |
#15 | 2007-2021 | 7.18% | 42.11% | 48.6 |
#20 | 2007-2021 | 7.93% | 37.02% | 44.1 |
#25 | 2007-2021 | 5.62% | 33.67% | 23.6 |
#30 | 2007-2021 | 6.13% | 23.79% | 42.8 |
Total | 2007-2021 | N/A | N/A | 510.3 |
Pick Position | Year Range | Star Prob | NHL Prob | WAR |
#1 | 2007-2021 | 88.60% | 99.12% | 193.9 |
#5 | 2007-2021 | 68.10% | 94.60% | 82.5 |
#10 | 2007-2021 | 46.50% | 85.49% | 74.5 |
#15 | 2007-2021 | 33.44% | 76.74% | 19.4 |
#20 | 2007-2021 | 23.29% | 71.04% | 27.1 |
#25 | 2007-2021 | 19.85% | 61.25% | 45 |
#30 | 2007-2021 | 15.41% | 54.62% | 19.6 |
Total | 2007-2021 | N/A | N/A | 462 |
Pick Position | Year Range | Star Prob | NHL Prob | WAR |
#1 | 2007-2021 | 83% | 90% | 191.4 |
#5 | 2007-2021 | 74% | 84% | 100.6 |
#10 | 2007-2021 | 52% | 75% | 20.7 |
#15 | 2007-2021 | 44% | 70% | 32.3 |
#20 | 2007-2021 | 35% | 64% | 40 |
#25 | 2007-2021 | 30% | 62% | 12.2 |
#30 | 2007-2021 | 25% | 61% | 40.3 |
Total | 2007-2021 | N/A | N/A | 437.5 |
The Boucher debate can be shelved for the summer at this point. It's well documented and nothing more is going to come from it. Baiting someone into another dead end discussion by challenging them to define 'fine' is just asking for more unnecessary and combative pollution on these boards, imo.
Is Boucher our Bruno Caboclo? He's two years away from being two years away?I'd extend that from the summer to the next two seasons or so.
Kid needs a lot of development time. Watching every move the kid makes for the next little while will just drive people nuts.
Yeah that’s most definitely just a guy pretending to have inside knowledgeWhy do so many people seem to believe McGuire was behind the Boucher pick?
He was hired shortly before the draft so there’s no way his voice trumped Mann + Dorion. The only evidence I could find was this tweet but it’s just some random guy on Twitter and is likely meaningless.
If they’re draft elegible I would think they’re not playing. But then again which of the draft elgiblws would even make itWould be nice if a few NHL teams held their guys out of the World Juniors this August and Boucher got a call.
Can’t see any guys other than Beniers and possibly Cooley though being held out by Seattle and whomever.
It's after the draft, same camp as every year aside from added players this year because of the WJ being held in August.If they’re draft elegible I would think they’re not playing. But then again which of the draft elgiblws would even make it
Oh shiiii it is after the draftIt's after the draft, same camp as every year aside from added players this year because of the WJ being held in August.
I'd be quite surprised if Nazar and Gauthier weren't on the team, the group the US took in December was among their weakest ever, the only forward they are losing is Beniers though, and Borderleau has been added for sure. But there were quite a few weak forwards on the team, I have no clue how they feel about adding players who never made it in December and cutting those who did.
It's the summer camp to prepare for the December World Juniors, just with a ton of added players because of the August World Juniors for the 20 year olds.Oh shiiii it is after the draft
Boucher is one of 40 invited.Would be nice if a few NHL teams held their guys out of the World Juniors this August and Boucher got a call.
Can’t see any guys other than Beniers and possibly Cooley though being held out by Seattle and whomever.
Unless my math is off, there were 60 invitedBoucher is one of 40 invited.
Yep my bad, it was more about telling you he was invited, admit I never counted.Unless my math is off, there were 60 invited
I thought Boucher's skating quality was very impressive in Belleville and he had some Sanderson-esque moments. Considering that he was dealing with a groin injury and never felt 100% but was able to play through it and displayed the quality of skating he did, it is something to be optimistic about.
I also think it is a good sign that it looks like he is training with Giroux this offseason.
I wonder if Perron joins that group as well given his local ties. Boucher could certainly learn a lot from Giroux and Perron, and if he is spending the offseason in Ottawa maybe he also gets some work in with Alfredsson.