Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - Part III - MOD WARNING 671

[Glove Malfunction]

Yep that's the Rask I know. 3-1 lead in the 3rd and lets in 2 softies to lose the game. I guess he's tired. Right? Lets see how he plays going forward. I think I already know.

Two screens and a great play by a Norris Dman. Exactly which of those was a "softy"? That term gets thrown around way too much around here.

 

[CDJ]

I'll be the hypocrite and say ppl should just not give them the attention they so desperately yearn for....


I'll bear that cross for you all. IM A HYPOCRITE. Some may call it heroic what I'm doing. I wouldn't, but you can

 

[fin8]

Ok.

I don't agree.

The Bruins got dominated in period 2 of that game.

Yep they did. That doesn't mean Rask stole the game. But you keep thinking he's the best goalie that's ever played if that makes you happy. He really showed it tonight.

 

[cobrak]

Tuukka is an ok NHL goalie, nothing more nothing less.

Uh huh, and the "ok" goalie ranks on all-time lists positively on several stats. Here's a hint if your goalie is on an all time list on more than one stats, has been to the Cup finals, and won the Verzina, they might be slightly better than okay.

Is he perfect? No, but claiming he is just ok is really reaching considering what he has contributed to this team

 

[fin8]

Two screens and a great play by a Norris Dman. Exactly which of those was a "softy"? That term gets thrown around way too much around here.

As soft as they come.

 

[BruinDust]

Folks blaming Rask need to take an objective look at all 4 goals.

1) High-slot one-timer top-corner snipe on the PP.

2) He couldn't track it early, but the impact of the McAvoy screen is overrated, he didn't screen Rask badly or much at all, Rask tracked it late, but it dipped on him last second and went under his glove. Not much he could do.

3) Cross-ice one-timer laid on a tee by Karlsson.

4) To me, the only one I think was probably stoppable. Sure Phaneuf got all of it, but it's still just a slapper from the blue-line he did see.

So 1 goal out of 4 I'd like him to have back.

This loss isn't on Rask.

 

[kytem2]

Uh huh, and the "ok" goalie ranks on all-time lists positively on several stats. Here's a hint if your goalie is on an all time list on more than one stats, has been to the Cup finals, and won the Verzina, they might be slightly better than okay.

Is he perfect? No, but claiming he is just ok is really reaching considering what he has contributed to this team

He's ok, just like Holtby, Lalime, Kolzig, Anderson, etc. In this era goalie stats are way up, scoring stats are not.

 

[kutskova]

Folks blaming Rask need to take an objective look at all 4 goals.

1) High-slot one-timer top-corner snipe on the PP.

2) He couldn't track it early, but the impact of the McAvoy screen is overrated, he didn't screen Rask badly or much at all, Rask tracked it late, but it dipped on him last second and went under his glove. Not much he could do.

3) Cross-ice one-timer laid on a tee by Karlsson.

4) To me, the only one I think was probably stoppable. Sure Phaneuf got all of it, but it's still just a slapper from the blue-line he did see.

So 1 goal out of 4 I'd like him to have back.

This loss isn't on Rask.

1 and 3 no chance 2 and 4 should have stopped. That's why your considered elite and earn 7mil.

 

[northeastern]

This teams playoff hopes live and die with Rask. And over the last 7 games he's been fantastic. Not many better in the league and certainly no one the bruins would be able to acquire.

Right now Rask lead the team into 3rd in the Atlantic and a split in Ottawa with a depleated roster. Things could be worse.

 

[fin8]

Folks blaming Rask need to take an objective look at all 4 goals.

1) High-slot one-timer top-corner snipe on the PP.

2) He couldn't track it early, but the impact of the McAvoy screen is overrated, he didn't screen Rask badly or much at all, Rask tracked it late, but it dipped on him last second and went under his glove. Not much he could do.

3) Cross-ice one-timer laid on a tee by Karlsson.

4) To me, the only one I think was probably stoppable. Sure Phaneuf got all of it, but it's still just a slapper from the blue-line he did see.

So 1 goal out of 4 I'd like him to have back.

This loss isn't on Rask.

What about making the money saves? That's what a great goalie does. Make the saves that are difficult. It's that simple.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Folks blaming Rask need to take an objective look at all 4 goals.

1) High-slot one-timer top-corner snipe on the PP.

2) He couldn't track it early, but the impact of the McAvoy screen is overrated, he didn't screen Rask badly or much at all, Rask tracked it late, but it dipped on him last second and went under his glove. Not much he could do.

3) Cross-ice one-timer laid on a tee by Karlsson.

4) To me, the only one I think was probably stoppable. Sure Phaneuf got all of it, but it's still just a slapper from the blue-line he did see.

So 1 goal out of 4 I'd like him to have back.

This loss isn't on Rask.

#2 turned the game around dipped or no dip terrible goal. Team needed not a great permanence from him today just above average one would have worked against one of the worst scoring teams in the league.

That goal gave them life. At least #4 you agreed. He had two post to start the to period that saved him when he was beat so #4 was coming it was just a mater of time was praying we scored first.

On the good side of the things he usually will come back with a good.performance after a subpar defeat

 

[cobrak]

He's ok, just like Holtby, Lalime, Kolzig, Anderson, etc. In this era goalie stats are way up, scoring stats are not.

How many of the goalies you listed have:
1. Gone to the Stanely cup finals......0,
2. won a Vezina....2

Even the NBC people were gushing about Rask being a lights-out playoff performer before game one. In your insistence that Rask is not good you are ignoring several sets of facts and making excuses to fit your narrative.

no he is not perfect but if it is a close game, there are very few goalies i would have rather have in the playoffs.

 

[jgatie]

Tuukka is an ok NHL goalie, nothing more nothing less.

Aren't you the guy who says Bobby Orr is highly overrated? Forgive me if I take your player analysis with a big piece of

 

[BruinDust]

What about making the money saves? That's what a great goalie does. Make the saves that are difficult. It's that simple.

What are you talking about?

I said take an objective look at all 4 goals. Comments like this are anything but.

Money-making saves?

 

[CashMash]

Yep they did. That doesn't mean Rask stole the game. But you keep thinking he's the best goalie that's ever played if that makes you happy. He really showed it tonight.

I didn't say he is the best goalie to have ever played. I believe, however, that he has all the talent to be the best goalie in the league currently and that he is an elite goalie. The issue lately has been that he seems to struggle when he has no competitive flair and is overworked. He has stretches where he dominates as good as any, and then stretches of mediocre, and even sometimes bad, play. That isn't helped by having a semi-weak defensive core as of late.

It's just that the narrative of him being supposedly mentally weak is unconfirmed BS and it frustrates me to see that narrative come up again and again. "We can't win with Rask".

At least we now have McAvoy, Carlo and Krug...

He could have played better tonight, but he wasn't the main reason for the loss in my opinion, and he has been earning his paycheck from the end of the season onwards.

Let's see how Rask and the team respond to this loss.

 

[patty59]

What are you talking about?

I said take an objective look at all 4 goals. Comments like this are anything but.

Money-making saves?

I believe money saves are every goal that is scored. Forget about all the great saves, those don't count.

Moore and Nash bailing on Karlsson at the blue line? Who cares rask should go post to post.

At least that what I think people mean by money saves.

 

[CashMash]

Some other teams also have ok goalies, right ?

There is a difference between guys like Crawford, Halak, Jones, Andersen etc. and guys like Lundqvist, Price, Rask and Holtby. Rask may not have played to his potential as of late, but he has proven to be great even behind defensive cores which are not as good as that of the opponent.

Look at his performance on team Finland, look at his performance when he won the Vezina. Heck, his .922 year was considered bad by some. He has performed very well everywhere he has played, so excuse me for thinking he is more than just "okay."

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I believe money saves are every goal that is scored. Forget about all the great saves, those don't count.

Moore and Nash bailing on Karlsson at the blue line? Who cares rask should go post to post.

At least that what I think people mean by money saves.

Just stop the one you should be stopping when you are an "elite" goalie. Lets start with those and we will move on to the more dramatic saves.

 

[patty59]

It's almost like some people's first time watching hockey after every loss. The knives come out and finger pointing starts. Goals are going to be scored, it's a part of the game.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

There is a difference between guys like Crawford, Halak, Jones, Andersen etc. and guys like Lundqvist, Price, Rask and Holtby. Rask may not have played to his potential as of late, but he has proven to be great even behind defensive cores which are not as good as that of the opponent.

Look at his performance on team Finland, look at his performance when he won the Vezina. Heck, his .922 year was considered bad by some. He has performed very well everywhere he has played, so excuse me for thinking he is more than just "okay."

Have you seen any of the other series going on in the league ? Goalies have been off the hook as some of the younglings like to say.

Defenses suck all over the place spare us the poor Rask plays behind the worstest ever D group. They played unreal all things considered in BOTH games.

He let them down today. First game he was very good

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Down to a skeleton crew defense and the judgement is in Rask?

Silly

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

It's almost like some people's first time watching hockey after every loss. The knives come out and finger pointing starts. Goals are going to be scored, it's a part of the game.

I personally agree with you but the excuses made for Rask is like nothing I have seen watching the Bruins for almost 40 years.

He was brutal today, Anderson sucked as well for that matter. If the Bruins have any hopes of winning another game in this series Rask can not play like he did today.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Rask was great first game reason they won,he wasn't great today ,wasn't the reason they lost but he wasn't great,not sure why people get there panties in a knot when you say Rask wasn't great .

 

[Chief Nine]

It's almost like some people's first time watching hockey after every loss. The knives come out and finger pointing starts. Goals are going to be scored, it's a part of the game.

Seriously! Hockey (and every other sport) is a game where mistakes are made. If your opponent capitalizes on those mistakes that's what leads to goals. There's a certain faction on these boards that wants to hang someone each time a goal is scored. It's hilarious how some people just turn to jelly every single time the Bruins get scored on or lose a game.

They're down 4 of their top D and a #2 center (and there are whispers...wash, rinse, repeat). The loss was painful, but they are coming home even in the series.

Chins up folks.

 

[NDiesel]

Rask was great first game reason they won,he wasn't great today ,wasn't the reason they lost but he wasn't great,not sure why people get there panties in a knot when you say Rask wasn't great .

There's a huge difference between saying he wasn't great and blaming him for this loss like many are.