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TSN's coverage of the World Juniors: Fair and balanced? Or unreasonable and biased?

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crowi said:
I don't think anyone outside of NA or maybe even just Canada likes TSN.
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Amen brother. Even some of us in Canada think TSN is hot garbage on a July summer day.

The editorial stuff aside, their technical presentation of this years event has been amateurish. I watched a game on TSN1 earlier this week (Thursday USA Swiss game) that has no intermission panel, no cut always for commercials so camera just showed black screen with arena audio at times, they showed Button and Beyak on mute yapping with an off screen producer or tech during breaks in play or just before resuming PBP, intermission show consisted of camera trained on the arena scoreclock. It made HockeyTV look Like it was Emmy Award level TV. Unprofessional garbage.
 
JAS 39 Gripen said:
I mean, shouldn’t they be biased to a certain degree?

They’re thousand times better than the Swedish broadcasts in terms of everything, especially broadcasting. The Swedish broadcast are just a bunch of cheerleaders most of the time, doing weird sounds when something happens and being like “Kom igen nu Sverige!” (Let’s go Sweden!) in the middle of a game. It’s so annoying. The Swedish commentators can also focus whole periods on what placement in a draft a player was picked, which is also kinda confusing
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Are you old enough to have listened to Hegerfors or Lasse Kinch? That was brutal for your ears.

Hegerfors could say things like “yeah the ice is very bad” if we were losing. Kinch mixed players up half of the time, even our own.

I think Södergren is the most humble and honest commentator. If we play like shit he doesn’t make up excuses. Jonas Andersson is nice to listen to as well. Very balanced and lots of own playing experience. I don’t mind Härenstam, but I agree he can be a bit of a cheerleader every now and then.

I’m just glad Glenn Strömberg sticks to football. 😂
 
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brentashton said:
Amen brother. Even some of us in Canada think TSN is hot garbage on a July summer day.

The editorial stuff aside, their technical presentation of this years event has been amateurish. I watched a game on TSN1 earlier this week (Thursday USA Swiss game) that has no intermission panel, no cut always for commercials so camera just showed black screen with arena audio at times, they showed Button and Beyak on mute yapping with an off screen producer or tech during breaks in play or just before resuming PBP, intermission show consisted of camera trained on the arena scoreclock. It made HockeyTV look Like it was Emmy Award level TV. Unprofessional garbage.
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I mean I watched that game and there absolutely was an intermission panel. So not sure if it was a problem on your end or some weird glitch....because there was an intermission panel lol
 
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brentashton said:
Amen brother. Even some of us in Canada think TSN is hot garbage on a July summer day.

The editorial stuff aside, their technical presentation of this years event has been amateurish. I watched a game on TSN1 earlier this week (Thursday USA Swiss game) that has no intermission panel, no cut always for commercials so camera just showed black screen with arena audio at times, they showed Button and Beyak on mute yapping with an off screen producer or tech during breaks in play or just before resuming PBP, intermission show consisted of camera trained on the arena scoreclock. It made HockeyTV look Like it was Emmy Award level TV. Unprofessional garbage.
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Pretty sure you are tapping into some streamed version and not the actual network broadcast.
 
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TheBeastCoast said:
I mean I watched that game and there absolutely was an intermission panel. So not sure if it was a problem on your end or some weird glitch....because there was an intermission panel lol
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There was on TSN3 but not TSN1. It was very weird.

daver said:
Pretty sure you are tapping into some streamed version and not the actual network broadcast.
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No I watched on the TSN app on my subscription. So your not pretty sure.
 
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It can get nauseating at times and even counter-productive as I think it did when Zegras and Co. were heavily incentivized to prove everyone wrong.

But the tournament attracts a lot of casual hockey fans (or did) and cheering rabidly for Canada is part of that.

As for TSN in general, I have nothing but praise for the regional Senators broadcasts which are top quality.
 
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Whenever I watch matches with english-speaking commentators, they always seem so unbiased and professional to me. Probably because here in Latvia, commentators dont even try to be neutral and hide their emotions. And why would they - no one cheering for a different will watch a Latvian broadcast anyway, and even if they will, they wont understand anything.
So, I dont see a reason why commentators should not be biased towards their home country. And TSN actually considers that they might have an international english-speaking audience. No fault in being a little more interested in team Canada for them.
 
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thaman8765678 said:
Whenever I watch matches with english-speaking commentators, they always seem so unbiased and professional to me. Probably because here in Latvia, commentators dont even try to be neutral and hide their emotions. And why would they - no one cheering for a different will watch a Latvian broadcast anyway, and even if they will, they wont understand anything.
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Vikz said:
So, I dont see a reason why commentators should not be biased towards their home country. And TSN actually considers that they might have an international english-speaking audience. No fault in being a little more interested in team Canada for them.
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Part of the distinction is between the talking heads panel which tend to be more rah-rah and the play by play guys who are generally more neutral and more informed about the players on the other teams.

EDIt: This multiple quote thing is annoying.
 
If a player scores a nice goal in the tournament, it is pretty much guaranteed said prospect will be an impact superstar in the league next year according to TSN.
 
When a Canadian broadcaster isn't fair and balanced, the world is lost.
 
Who does it better?

Eg. Czech TV shows the Czechs games only. During those games they are in front of a blue screen doing the pre game which is about 2 minutes long. DUring intermissions they go to the same pretaped packages of the athletes living in their covid bubbles during the Chinese olympics, the bronze win at the Skoda and the lady bronze win at the worlds.

Do I love the TSN coverage... it's overbearing and if you never watched hockey and were a casual fan then you'd think Canada has won 30 straight because the weeks leading up replay every Canada gold win ever with the 'this is our game' ads in between. But, none of that happened this year. It was very quiet going in.

Do I think they should have Rick Westhead in every panel talking legal cases? NO
Do I think they should acknowledge it? YES

Fromenton just scored in the Spengler and not a f***en peep about why he's not in the NHL.

It's tone deaf. I feel the same about the Oiler's MSM not asking Bob Nicholson ONE question. But again, not looking for hatchet jobs but it's happening and ignoring it is bad.

But, name a network that does this better?
 
Also, TSN does an amazing job of bringing international hockey

They show some of U17 challenge, Junior A challenge, 80% of the U18, most of the Hlinka, ALL of the Skoda cup which is amazing!!! and every game here. I doubt another broadcaster can come even close to that content.
 
BUT.. f*** their camera, they robbed Russia of a 'potential' Gold! If that happened to my team I would've had a nervous breakdown.lol Still the least lucky bounce I've ever seen in a gold game.
 
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Hey look! Another "shit on the Canadian network coverage" thread!

Yes. Part of their coverage is to hype the drafted players. Seems a pretty obvious effort to create NHL context to me, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

When they call a Canada game of course they're going to lean that way, but Miller, Beyak, Button and Johnson are pros. They call spades spades and I haven't seen them pull any punches yet. I've been off since the 23rd and have been able to watch at least large chunks of games I didn't attend in person. I've heard balanced game calls and analysis consistently. When Canada has been flat, they've said so and been critical.

Is it about Bedard? He's had an unbelievable tournament so far. How many players have been so dominant before their draft? It's a big narrative of the tournament so far. Any international coverage ignoring it would be, imo, more biased against than TSN is for.

Tell us, who's better? Who would be better?
 
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Czechboy said:
Who does it better?

Eg. Czech TV shows the Czechs games only. During those games they are in front of a blue screen doing the pre game which is about 2 minutes long. DUring intermissions they go to the same pretaped packages of the athletes living in their covid bubbles during the Chinese olympics, the bronze win at the Skoda and the lady bronze win at the worlds.

Do I love the TSN coverage... it's overbearing and if you never watched hockey and were a casual fan then you'd think Canada has won 30 straight because the weeks leading up replay every Canada gold win ever with the 'this is our game' ads in between. But, none of that happened this year. It was very quiet going in.

Do I think they should have Rick Westhead in every panel talking legal cases? NO
Do I think they should acknowledge it? YES

Fromenton just scored in the Spengler and not a f***en peep about why he's not in the NHL.

It's tone deaf. I feel the same about the Oiler's MSM not asking Bob Nicholson ONE question. But again, not looking for hatchet jobs but it's happening and ignoring it is bad.

But, name a network that does this better?
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I did not notice that Formenton scored, not that TSN could do as you say without getting sued. Hockey Canada did bury that he was on the team though, which is shady. As for the rest, no, TSN already buried one tournament due to allegations that have yet to even lead to a charge. It would be stupid to continue discussing said allegations with no particularly relevant new information during a hockey broadcast.
 
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I did not notice that Formenton scored, not that TSN could do as you say without getting sued. Hockey Canada did bury that he was on the team though, which is shady. As for the rest, no, TSN already buried one tournament due to allegations that have yet to even lead to a charge. It would be stupid to continue discussing said allegations with no particularly relevant new information during a hockey broadcast.
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Should be noted he wasn't playing for Team Canada he was on one of the club teams I believe. If he was on Team Canada that probably would have been a story.
 
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Overall they’re very good!
This year though I didn’t like the lead up to the Czechia game..
If you were just an average hockey fan, you were led to believe that it was going to be a cake walk for Canada.

There’s normally a little preview of the other team, players to watch and a recipe for them to win. Didn’t see anything. Which is ridiculous. Very good Czech team this year.
 
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