Rumor: Trouba to Detroit (Rangers retaining)

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Trouba, there is only one thing I ask of you. As someone from Detroit, you should want the Wings to succeed. So please please please put us on your 15 team no trade list.
I'd say this as a guy who wishes SY would pursue, trade or FA, more high skilled players regardless of (reasonable) cost, Trouba at 5m and we dump Holl is a win..

If we can gain a pick even better....
 
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I'd say this as a guy who wishes SY would pursue, trade or FA, more high skilled players regardless of (reasonable) cost, Trouba at 5m and we dump Holl is a win..

If we can gain a pick even better....
Honestly, if we include Holl in the deal, we get a pick and Trouba has retention, I'd also be cool with it. I'm not sure why the Rangers do that though. They barely save any cap if they retain and we send back Holl. I've seen nothing except speculation that we'd get a deal that good.
 

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Yup. Easy to love Detroit when they're bottom-feeding trash and to be forced to respect Yzerman when Tampa is steamrolling everyone in the mid 2010s.

Detroit gets up off the mat at all? They're getting trashed just because people who aren't Wings fans are apoplectic about them being back. Most other fanbases hate Detroit.
 
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Honestly, if we include Holl in the deal, we get a pick and Trouba has retention, I'd also be cool with it. I'm not sure why the Rangers do that though. They barely save any cap if they retain and we send back Holl. I've seen nothing except speculation that we'd get a deal that good.

Only reasonable reason...holl buyout is less than Troubas and that's good enough for NY
 

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Why would Holl waive his NTC so the Rangers can buy him out?
Because he's not playing any hockey if he stays in Detroit. Maybe his agent found another team to sign him cheap. Heck, maybe the Sharks take him and play him once he can be on a cheaper deal.
 

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They're getting trashed just because people who aren't Wings fans are apoplectic about them being back.
A wise man once said if someone hates you for no reason, then you give that mother-trucker a reason!

Trouba retained for 2 years isn't bad. IF we make it into the playoffs, the Florida's of the world are going to manhandle us. We need more physicality.

The game morphs into some gladiator spectacle come playoffs time and we aren't built to make it there, let alone compete. Yet.
 
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Edvinsson, Seider, Chiarot, and Trouba combined is prounounced "physicality in the top 4"
Edvinsson has not yet fully adjusted to the NHL nor filled out in his frame to qualify him as a physical player. Really, Seider still has room to improve in physicality as well.

But I agree that this hypothetical top 4 would be heading in that direction.
 
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Edvinsson has not yet fully adjusted to the NHL nor filled out in his frame to qualify him as a physical player. Really, Seider still has room to improve in physicality as well.

But I agree that this hypothetical top 4 would be heading in that direction.

Agreed. I liked how Ed played but I saw nothing that qualified him as a physical Dman. He needs to put on weight and muscle. Most times when he tried to get physical with a player, he bounced off them with little effect.
 
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Agreed. I liked how Ed played but I saw nothing that qualified him as a physical Dman. He needs to put on weight and muscle. Most times when he tried to get physical with a player, he bounced off them with little effect.
He was physical in GR, and he actually trains in MMA in off season to work on his balance, so that could prove useful for him
 
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Because he's not playing any hockey if he stays in Detroit. Maybe his agent found another team to sign him cheap. Heck, maybe the Sharks take him and play him once he can be on a cheaper deal.
He’s grateful to Yzerman for overpaying him to do nothing.
 

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We would still have space to go after Kane or Stamkos, though I think Kane was a bit of a square peg in a round hole here.
Kane highest hockey IQ since Datsyuk in Red Wings uniform. Very important, for me , to play our top prospects with him. Stamkos will bring a lot of leadership and I am not sure it's good thing, how this will effects Larkin leadership
 

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Yeah trouba retained would be a big get for the wings. He played over 21 mins a night on a team where his pairing also played the hardest matchups and won the presidents trophy. Oh no, he didnt look amazing against Florida in theconference finals. He would take some serious pressure off of Seider and be by far the second best dman on the team.

He also brings some physical edge that will help draw some of these younger guys into the fight a little more
 

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It wasn't just Florida it was the entire playoffs but yea him at 5.5 million for 2 years wouldn't be bad. I'm still holding out hope for Roy, though.
 

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Edvnssoon needs experience and the confidence that comes with it more than he needs muscle. What he's capable of doing with the puck is a big part of his future and that won't necessarily be helped by gaining 15-20 pounds of upper body mass. He has a willingness to be physical, his effectiveness needing better understanding of timing and leverage. He is going to get a bit stronger over the next couple years and that will help too, but he is always going to be a tall, lanky guy more likely to tie people up than hammer them. His stick will be a more often used and better defensive tool than big hits. To what extent physicality becomes part of his game is unknown but he is not soft or disinterested.

A top four of Chiarot-Seider, Ed-Trouba would indeed be one of the league's most physical units. Seider is already one of the league's most physical D and Trouba is not far behind.
 
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