Trouba MASSIVE hit on Meier

TheDawnOfANewTage

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Oh my mistake, it's not like his number is retired and he's one of the most beloved Devils of all time. :eyeroll:

Different rules, different knowledge. You can judge Stevens if you want, but in his day that was considered good hockey and we didn’t know as much about the long-term consequences. Much more is known now, and that’s why the morality of Trouba’s play is more in question. You support a league that allows it to happen, should we pass judgment on you?

Times change and opinions shift, but we can’t just ignore the context of the times in which things originally occurred.
 
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Different rules, different knowledge. You can judge Stevens if you want, but in his day that was considered good hockey and we didn’t know as much about the long-term consequences. Much more is known now, and that’s why the morality of Trouba’s play is more in question. You support a league that allows it to happen, should we pass judgment on you?

Times change and opinions shift, but we can’t just ignore the context of the times in which things originally occurred.
You cannot tell me that people looked at his hits and thought "that must be good for Lindros' health" ;)
 

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100% legal according to the current rulebook.

100% shouldn't be, if the NHL really cared about long term effects of brain trauma.
But then all the players would purposely skate around with their heads down because no one could touch them. Coaches would legit tell a guy like Connor McDavid to skate end to end with his head leaning forward and down. This is exactly what would happen.

You may as well remove all hitting from the game

Go watch chess. What's next, no punching in UFC?

Sorry, just trying to prep you for the replies coming your way. I totally agree with you.
 
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Me and some others will ask again because no one can come up with anything. Why then not just skate with your head down through the neutral zone? You can’t be hit.

Is this a real question?

You really think you can be successful at hockey without looking around to see where the goal is, where your teammates are and where your opponents trying to steal the puck are? And you really think the only way to cause a turnover is to give an open ice hit? And you really think the reason why players keep their head up is to avoid hits? Do you teach kids who learn to play in no-contact leagues to keep their head down because they don't have to worry about getting hit?

I assume you never played hockey.

But then all the players would purposely skate around with their heads down because no one could touch them. Coaches would legit tell a guy like Connor McDavid to skate end to end with his head leaning forward and down. This is exactly what would happen.

You may as well remove all hitting from the game

Go watch chess. What's next, no punching in UFC?

Sorry, just trying to prep you for the replies coming your way. I totally agree with you.

I was like : wow, you cannot be real! I feel better knowing you were just kidding. :laugh:
 

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The level of CTE/Brain injuries coming out of this generation won't be close to the previous generations. Fighting has disappeared, big hits are already very rare. Some level of it will always exist however if there is hitting allowed.

There may be some truth to this but as the sport continues to get faster and more demanding that effect could be negated. One thing is for sure, diagnosis of CTE and brain injuries will continue to increase as well as the knowledge of the damage it causes. This isn't an issue that will go away, it's going to be bigger over time. The NHL needs to adapt. Some folks won't like it and a handful may tune out but it will make the sport better.
 

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But then all the players would purposely skate around with their heads down because no one could touch them. Coaches would legit tell a guy like Connor McDavid to skate end to end with his head leaning forward and down. This is exactly what would happen.

You may as well remove all hitting from the game

Go watch chess. What's next, no punching in UFC?

Sorry, just trying to prep you for the replies coming your way. I totally agree with you.
Uhhh.. it’s exactly what would happen. It’s already happening. That’s why this clown show of a thread about a nothing hit is 20 pages. “Fans” like yourself.
 

TheDawnOfANewTage

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You cannot tell me that people looked at his hits and thought "that must be good for Lindros' health" ;)

No one thought that, but we also didn’t know about CTE. The nhl and nfl would have highlight packages of dudes getting knocked out, we seemed to think it was just an on/off switch. In hindsight maybe we shoulda been more suspicious, but the powers that be weren’t making it clear that it was a problem. 100% a different culture back then.
 

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I love big open ice hits like this. I hope Meier ends up making a full recovery very soon with no lingering effects. Players need to have some personal responsibility when it comes to putting themselves into very vulnerable positions. A hit from behind is a situation where players are alot less in control of their own fate but even then we sometimes see players turn their back to someone just before getting hit which imo is on them. Keeping your head on a swivel and being prepared to avoid or counter hits is a skill. Players have to be aware of their surroundings and be prepared to make a safer play for the sake of self preservation. I hated watching Taylor Hall get blown up on numerous occasions when he was an Oiler but played the game with reckless abandon and it caught up to him often.
 
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I think he plays but weird that he has a faceshield since many posters said it wasn't a head shot at all.lol
 

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Is this a real question?

You really think you can be successful at hockey without looking around to see where the goal is, where your teammates are and where your opponents trying to steal the puck are? And you really think the only way to cause a turnover is to give an open ice hit? And you really think the reason why players keep their head up is to avoid hits? Do you teach kids who learn to play in no-contact leagues to keep their head down because they don't have to worry about getting hit?

I assume you never played hockey.



I was like : wow, you cannot be real! I feel better knowing you were just kidding. :laugh:
Ah. The ‘ol “you never played” routine. I did play. I know the rules. And yes, these guys are skilled enough to pick their head up and put it back down to make hitting them illegal, if those were the rules.

It seems you never go out of squirt when you could start checking.
 

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I love big open ice hits like this. I hope Meier ends up making a full recovery very soon with no lingering effects. Players need to have some personal responsibility when it comes to putting themselves into very vulnerable positions. A hit from behind is a situation where players are alot less in control of their own fate but even then we sometimes see players turn their back to someone just before getting hit which imo is on them. Keeping your head on a swivel and being prepared to avoid or counter hits is a skill. Players have to be aware of their surroundings and be prepared to make a safer play for the sake of self preservation. I hated watching Taylor Hall get blown up on numerous occasions when he was an Oiler but played the game with reckless abandon and it caught up to him often.
You never want to face the glass directly with your chest especially if you know a forechecker is coming. You want one of your shoulders to be the first point of contact with the boards/glass if you get hit. Either you position yourself to absorb the hit and play the puck, or you can pull a Hamilton/Ovy and not even try and let the forechecker get the puck, or you ease up into the wall and prepare yourself for a board battle for the puck.
 

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This is the kind of hit we need goons for.

Yes. Technically this is a clean hit.

It is also a repeat offender again taking liberties injuring players far better than him.
If there was a McSorley or Odjick or Brashier or... If Trouba knew, that every time he deliberately injured a player he would get his face beaten in to a mush... I think he would be a bit more careful with how, when and who he lays out.
 

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I've learned from this thread that it's only physically possible to hit someone head on. Not from an angle or from the side, it just doesn't work. So if they just skate with their head down its just entirely impossible to hit them if you can't make primary contact with the head. Cheat code unlocked...genius!
 
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I've learned from this thread that it's only physically possible to hit someone head on. Not from an angle or from the side, it just doesn't work. So if they just skate with their head down its just entirely impossible to hit them if you can't make primary contact with the head. Cheat code unlocked...genius!
This is the way!

I find it funny that in round 1 there was only ONE hit like this in roughly 50 games played. Apparantly it took until Game 7 to register one hit in the playoffs because you simply cannot hit a guy any other way.
 

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Hilarious at all the anti-hitting posters in here.

Sad too. It's hockey, it's still a physical sport. Baseball, soccer, and basketball are all sports where hitting is illegal. Maybe check those out?
 

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I wouldn’t have minded this hit in Game 1, or a tough fought OT. Big hit. Meier should have kept his head up. And Timo doesn’t exactly shy away from big hits himself. Timo led the NJD in hits over the series.

But what gets me about this is the context in which it happened. Game 7. NYR down by 2 with 10 minutes left in the 3rd.

This was a f*** you, not a hockey play. Trouba was pissed because his team was about to get eliminated when they had been poised to make a deep run. I can’t say this was an intent to injure, but it was reckless and simply poor sportsmanship. I don’t mind if he is playing hard to win. But this is just a grown ass man throwing a fit.
 

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I wouldn’t have minded this hit in Game 1, or a tough fought OT. Big hit. Meier should have kept his head up. And Timo doesn’t exactly shy away from big hits himself. Timo led the NJD in hits over the series.

But what gets me about this is the context in which it happened. Game 7. NYR down by 2 with 10 minutes left in the 3rd.

This was a f*** you, not a hockey play. Trouba was pissed because his team was about to get eliminated when they had been poised to make a deep run. I can’t say this was an intent to injure, but it was reckless and simply poor sportsmanship. I don’t mind if he is playing hard to win. But this is just a grown ass man throwing a fit.
So you shouldn’t throw a big hit in a game 7 with 10 minutes to go, down 2, in one of the other teams best players? Hitting is part of the game. Big hits can be attempted at any time
 
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I wouldn’t have minded this hit in Game 1, or a tough fought OT. Big hit. Meier should have kept his head up. And Timo doesn’t exactly shy away from big hits himself. Timo led the NJD in hits over the series.

But what gets me about this is the context in which it happened. Game 7. NYR down by 2 with 10 minutes left in the 3rd.

This was a f*** you, not a hockey play. Trouba was pissed because his team was about to get eliminated when they had been poised to make a deep run. I can’t say this was an intent to injure, but it was reckless and simply poor sportsmanship. I don’t mind if he is playing hard to win. But this is just a grown ass man throwing a fit.

you think a team can't make up 2 goals in the last 10 minutes? Did you watch the Kraken Stars game yesterday? Or Florida's game 7 against Boston when they were down with a minute left? That was still absolutely game time for both teams you make it sound like the game was put away with a 4 goal lead with 30 seconds left.
 

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So you shouldn’t throw a big hit in a game 7 with 10 minutes to go, down 2, in one of the other teams best players? Hitting is part of the game. Big hits can be attempted at any time

I think your kind of missing the point there bro. But yes, that’s what I am saying. You shouldn’t attempt to knock out the other teams best players in the last game of a losing series. That’s not good for the game and it’s simply poor sportsmanship.
 

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