Speculation: Trouba Contract Negotiations not close?

[Hunter368]

Trouba is a prima Donna with a big ego and is quickly becoming a distraction just like Evander Kane

He will get traded within the next 2 years, I'm calling it

Distraction? How? He's negotiating his contract in the off season like he should be. I would do the exact same thing.

If he holds out and sits, then I agree with you but that is a long time from now.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Trouba is a prima donna now?

I swear to god, is this the first contract negotiation this site has ever seen?

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Nope... but there are a few teams in desperate need of a RHD like Trouba. The compensation for an offer sheet from $6-7M at 5 years would be more then worth it for those team. Assuming they have the cap to slightly overpay.

Then you guys should gladly take the compensation. I don't see Trouba as ever worth paying anywhere near 7 million.

 

[JetsHomer]

Then you guys should gladly take the compensation. I don't see Trouba as ever worth paying anywhere near 7 million.

The Jets would probably much rather have a Trouba that's about a million dollars overpaid over a few draft picks

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

The Jets would probably much rather have a Trouba that's about a million dollars overpaid over a few draft picks

Why? Are keeping all of Schiefele, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Myers, not important? Overpaying players who do not earn their contracts is not a good practice. Little, Wheeler and Buff all earn significant contracts too. Getting Trouba to a fair deal is of pretty high importance I would think. If he wants 7 million, take the picks.

 

[Quiksilver*]

Then you guys should gladly take the compensation. I don't see Trouba as ever worth paying anywhere near 7 million.

Agreed. Can't afford to be overpaying players by 2+ million, especially with a small market, cap restricted team. I'm sure that's one of the reasons Chevy takes a hard nose approach to negotiations.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

If Trouba's camp is concerned about his role and moreso the side he plays on, why don't the Jets just move Myers and his contract? He's a lock to miss 10-15 games a year and is owed $5.5M per, about what Trouba seems to be seeking on a long-term deal.

Over both the short- and long-term, the Jets with Trouba + assets acquired for Myers likely > the Jets with Myers + assets acquired for Trouba- even if Myers' recent surgeries do depress his value somewhat. That they would come in around the same from a cap perspective makes it a slam-dunk decision.

It just seems like a natural solution to the problem at hand and the least dramatic way to ensure Trouba is a Jet for the foreseeable future.

 

[CaptainChef]

Why? Are keeping all of Schiefele, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Myers, not important? Overpaying players who do not earn their contracts is not a good practice. Little, Wheeler and Buff all earn significant contracts too. Getting Trouba to a fair deal is of pretty high importance I would think. If he wants 7 million, take the picks.

But who is talking 7 mil? No way they are asking that despite what the advanced rumors were saying. At 6 mill he's already being paid more than what his contemporaries are getting. Having said that, the Jets WILL pay what is necessary to sign Trouba -- and that will be nowhere near 7 mill.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

But who is talking 7 mil? No way they are asking that despite what the advanced rumors were saying. At 6 mill he's already being paid more than what his contemporaries are getting. Having said that, the Jets WILL pay what is necessary to sign Trouba -- and that will be nowhere near 7 mill.

Another poster was the one that threw out the numbers 6-7 million. Then another poster said you pay him a million more than he's worth if you have to. So I'm just doing the math here.

 

[Ducksgo*]

Trouba is a prima donna now?

I swear to god, is this the first contract negotiation this site has ever seen?

Exactly. Don't listen to them we had the same issues before Vatanen finally signed. Prima Donna my bum, he's strictly going to get paid for what he should be paid nothing more nothing less and he deserves it.

Not sure why everyone always jumps to conclusions on this site sheesh.

 

[rynryn]

Don't understand why people fault players for trying to get maximum dollar. It's not like he's an AHLr that got called up last season and is now big-timing it.

 

[Meeqs]

Don't understand why people fault players for trying to get maximum dollar. It's not like he's an AHLr that got called up last season and is now big-timing it.

Because the NHL is really the only true hard cap league in sports. No luxury tax and guaranteed contracts means Cap management is one of the most essential aspects of winning a cup. When players demand "more than they're worth (aka more than the precedent)" then they are actually hurting the overall team.

Its unfortunate that players have to choose between money and success to some degree but I guess that's why we keep having lockouts.

P.S. Also I am in no way suggesting that Trouba may be asking for more than he is worth but just stating the current nature of the leagues cap system. Realistically Trouba is a great player that still has some question marks playing on a team that has incredible depth at his position. There are still plenty of unsigned players but the fact of the matter is that unless he wants to sit out or take an offer sheet he has no leverage in the situation.

 

[Meeqs]

Exactly. Don't listen to them we had the same issues before Vatanen finally signed. Prima Donna my bum, he's strictly going to get paid for what he should be paid nothing more nothing less and he deserves it.

Not sure why everyone always jumps to conclusions on this site sheesh.

Because people have been conditioned to react this way from reading click bait articles created by the media in an ever increasing amount of lazy journalism to get views.

 

[copernicanrevolution]

Trouba is a prima Donna with a big ego and is quickly becoming a distraction just like Evander Kane

He will get traded within the next 2 years, I'm calling it

ROFL. Yeah, negotiating when you are a RFA is definitely a sign of a bad seed.

 

[rynryn]

Because the NHL is really the only true hard cap league in sports. No luxury tax and guaranteed contracts means Cap management is one of the most essential aspects of winning a cup. When players demand "more than they're worth (aka more than the precedent)" then they are actually hurting the overall team.

Its unfortunate that players have to choose between money and success to some degree but I guess that's why we keep having lockouts.

P.S. Also I am in no way suggesting that Trouba may be asking for more than he is worth but just stating the current nature of the leagues cap system. Realistically Trouba is a great player that still has some question marks playing on a team that has incredible depth at his position. There are still plenty of unsigned players but the fact of the matter is that unless he wants to sit out or take an offer sheet he has no leverage in the situation.

i understand the desire by fans to believe in their team and it's players to be 100% for the good of the team but that seems to be a pretty rare sentiment among players. The problem is one guy takes a sweetheart deal for the good of the team then a couple years down the road they have plenty of cap space and thus the next guy can afford to really squeeze money out of them without hurting the team (so he's off the hook, right? assuming the team is still in good shape cap wise?). So first pairing D guy here is making $1.5m/yr less than he could be the next five years for the good of the team and second line winger is making $1m over market value for the next five years because the sweetheart deal of the defenseman means they could over-pay the next guy to keep him. Who'd want to play in that condition?

I'm sure players do take less than they have to to stay in some instances (malkin comes to mind) but it does seem fairly rare.

 

[ps241]

Trouba is a prima Donna with a big ego and is quickly becoming a distraction just like Evander Kane

He will get traded within the next 2 years, I'm calling it

A fictional work by PhoenyX

 

[tempest2i]

Here's what I expect will happen:

Trouba will hold out until camp.

He will sign a team friendly deal because he has zero leverage.

Both parties will move on from this.

Posters around here will refer to the holdout as an indictment on Trouba's character for years and years.

 

[Crede777]

Isn't that his job? To be a strong advocate for his client. Or maybe he should just take what the team offers and call it a day.

Teams have enormous leverage when it comes to RFA's. He is basically attempting to create leverage by advising players to do things which harm not only their reputations but also their development.

A number of his players have sat out training camp or had unproductive off seasons because they were consumed with arguing over their next contracts.

With Johansen, for instance, he acknowledged that he was trying to set the record for most lucrative first contract coming out of the ELC. That isn't actually helpful for Johansen.

RFA's need to accept that they basically have no negotiation leverage. If they want to sit out and waste a vital year of development, fine but players who do that tend to never recover from it.

Instead they should take contracts which favor teams now and then cash in during UFA.

 

[OutsideLookingIn]

Teams have enormous leverage when it comes to RFA's. He is basically attempting to create leverage by advising players to do things which harm not only their reputations but also their development.

A number of his players have sat out training camp or had unproductive off seasons because they were consumed with arguing over their next contracts.

With Johansen, for instance, he acknowledged that he was trying to set the record for most lucrative first contract coming out of the ELC. That isn't actually helpful for Johansen.

RFA's need to accept that they basically have no negotiation leverage. If they want to sit out and waste a vital year of development, fine but players who do that tend to never recover from it.

Instead they should take contracts which favor teams now and then cash in during UFA.

Thanks Chevy, didn't know you posted here.

So, he takes a team friendly contract for two years, plays with Stuart 60% of the time and wastes another two year of development. That sounds like a deal.

 

[Crede777]

Thanks Chevy, didn't know you posted here.

So, he takes a team friendly contract for two years, plays with Stuart 60% of the time and wastes another two year of development. That sounds like a deal.

If you define getting 20+ minutes a night with an NHL team wasting development... then your definition is wrong.

Sitting out and creating a rift won't get him paid any more and it won't help him down the line.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Trouba is a 6'3" 22 yr old right handed stud.I have never seen a 19 yr old defenseman dominate a game like Trouba did in his first NHL game against the Oilers.A goal,an assist,and the game's first star.

I might consider PoolParty and an unprotected 1st.

Maybe

[size=-2]Maybe not[/size]

Doughty, Ekblad, really? Also let's be honest here, my team has been ass the last number of years so when a player lights us up it isn't like they're lighting up the Kings or Hawks or something.

 

[cobra427]

Teams have enormous leverage when it comes to RFA's. He is basically attempting to create leverage by advising players to do things which harm not only their reputations but also their development.

A number of his players have sat out training camp or had unproductive off seasons because they were consumed with arguing over their next contracts.

With Johansen, for instance, he acknowledged that he was trying to set the record for most lucrative first contract coming out of the ELC. That isn't actually helpful for Johansen.

RFA's need to accept that they basically have no negotiation leverage. If they want to sit out and waste a vital year of development, fine but players who do that tend to never recover from it.

Instead they should take contracts which favor teams now and then cash in during UFA.

Agreed, RFA's have very few rights and next to zero negotiating leverage.

 

[OutsideLookingIn]

If you define getting 20+ minutes a night with an NHL team wasting development... then your definition is wrong.

Sitting out and creating a rift won't get him paid any more and it won't help him down the line.

You don't develop at the same rate whe you are playing with Stuart and Burmi as you do with quality NHL players. Trouba has been sacrificed by playing with Stuart and that may have created the rife with management. I think all players understand the contract process and it won't create a rift with the players.

Holding out is his only leverage and it will get him traded. Depending on which team he goes to, he may take a bridge deal due to cap space or a six year deal at $5.5 to $5.7.

 

[varano]

Trouba is a prima donna now?

I swear to god, is this the first contract negotiation this site has ever seen?

Remember when there were several RFAs that still haven't been signed but Trouba of course MUST
be the only one that people talk about....

 

[varano]

Thanks Chevy, didn't know you posted here.

So, he takes a team friendly contract for two years, plays with Stuart 60% of the time and wastes another two year of development. That sounds like a deal.

lol This is RIDICULOUS....

You act as if they're playing him 8 minutes a game.