Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[Healthy Wrap]

Ah yes, the old “he’s overpaid but there are worse players making more” excuse for a bad deal. Solid way to run your team. Or not. Yeah, not.

The other one I like is when people try to spin his continued ineffectiveness as a good thing. “If he keeps this up, he’ll be cheaper to resign!”

 

[TCB]

 

[LSCII]

The other one I like is when people try to spin his continued ineffectiveness as a good thing. “If he keeps this up, he’ll be cheaper to resign!”

The mental gymnastics some folks do here makes my head spin. If a guy is ineffective he’s ineffective. Why is that hard to admit for some people?

 

[Over the volcano]

The other one I like is when people try to spin his continued ineffectiveness as a good thing. “If he keeps this up, he’ll be cheaper to resign!”

Link?

 

[Healthy Wrap]

Link?

Oh that was absolutely said in the Trent Frederic I thread. I’ll try to find it

 

[Healthy Wrap]

Link?

Post in thread 'Trent Frederic'
Player Discussion - Trent Frederic

The post I was thinking of was authored by none other than…drumroll…YOU! #1185 on 11/27/24.

“Amazing you can say his contract is the issue with a straight face. If that were the case his struggles are only going to make the next contract cheaper, and he's already far outperformed the one he's on.”

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

You can not forget the fact he is a UFA at season end. Is he a player you think the Bruins should invest in long term? We know this is a matter of at what cost. From what I see he is a player that should be moved this season , if there is an expectable return available

Anyone could be moved if there is an acceptable return I guess.

I think it's dangerous to evaluate only on these 30ish games instead of the totality of his tenure, and I'm sure the Bruins management wouldn't do that. He's been pretty bad this year no doubt. But dumping him for picks that won't help for 4-5 years doesn't make any sense either. He's certainly a player I would extend at an appropriate AAV, and I hope they do. Obviously if they're way way off in negotiations, then that's a different story.

 

[Over the volcano]

Post in thread 'Trent Frederic'
Player Discussion - Trent Frederic

The post I was thinking of was authored by none other than…drumroll…YOU! #1185 on 11/27/24.

“Amazing you can say his contract is the issue with a straight face. If that were the case his struggles are only going to make the next contract cheaper, and he's already far outperformed the one he's on.”

That's pretty funny.

Thought starting the sentence with "If that were the case.." would communicate disagreement with the idea.

I think he's gone either way - if he plays well he'll price himself out (just takes one GM) and if he continues to struggle they won't want him back anyway. But what do I know.

 

[Healthy Wrap]

That's pretty funny.

Thought starting the sentence with "If that were the case.." would communicate disagreement with the idea.

I think he's gone either way - if he plays well he'll price himself out (just takes one GM) and if he continues to struggle they won't want him back anyway. But what do I know.

That's pretty funny.

Thought starting the sentence with "If that were the case.." would communicate disagreement with the idea.

I think he's gone either way - if he plays well he'll price himself out (just takes one GM) and if he continues to struggle they won't want him back anyway. But what do I know.

This I agree with

 

[CDJ]

That's one more than Coyle has on the year. Why do you think his thread isn't as active with hair splitting stats?

Making 2x+ more too- that’s the part that baffles me. There are actual top 6 guys making a lot of money and producing pretty much the same and they don’t get half the shit Frederic gets (Coyle, Zacha, etc). They’re not even on the first page at all here

 

[LouJersey]

That's one more than Coyle has on the year. Why do you think his thread isn't as active with hair splitting stats?

Because one is looking for an extension and one is already locked in? I mean anyone here would love to deal Coyle I am sure.

 

[Dr Hook]

Because one is looking for an extension and one is already locked in? I mean anyone here would love to deal Coyle I am sure.

This. If Coyle continues to be subpar going into next season, his thread will blow up because his contract will be expiring and Bruins will have to make the same sort of decision.

 

[Over the volcano]

Because one is looking for an extension and one is already locked in? I mean anyone here would love to deal Coyle I am sure.

Not to turn this into the Coyle thread, but I think he's got a lot more supporters. Folks were talking about how he should take over Lindholms spot and what a good decision it was to bump him up to the top 6 last night.

I'm not rooting against anyone and genuinely wonder what's ailing Coyle if it's his body or between the ears.

This. If Coyle continues to be subpar going into next season, his thread will blow up because his contract will be expiring and Bruins will have to make the same sort of decision.

Might could be.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Not to turn this into the Coyle thread, but I think he's got a lot more supporters. Folks were talking about how he should take over Lindholms spot and what a good decision it was to bump him up to the top 6 last night.

I'm not rooting against anyone and genuinely wonder what's ailing Coyle if it's his body or between the ears.


Might could be.

Coyle only has one over the top irrational hatred poster where Frederic has 4-5.

 

[Dr Hook]

Coyle only has one over the top irrational hatred poster where Frederic has 4-5.

Apropos of nothing, Grizz is still the all-time forum King of Irrational Hatred, at least in recent memory.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I find it ironic that Brazeau gets virtually no criticism despite having zero toughness for a big guy and being pretty mid over the past several weeks.

Brazeau's finishes heavy hits are generally - scrums are also rare when he is in the crease due to his size alone.

He was never expected to add fighting toughness. I see no irony.

Frederic has one of the lowest thresholds to impress fans out of any Bruins player. Effort and finish heavy hits. Simple. That is why he is focused on at least by myself. He is inconsistent even with those. The scoring is a bonus.

 

[Over the volcano]

Brazeau's finishes heavy hits are generally - scrums are also rare when he is in the crease due to his size alone.

He was never expected to add fighting toughness. I see no irony.

Frederic has one of the lowest thresholds to impress fans out of any Bruins player. Effort and finish heavy hits. Simple. That is why he is focused on at least by myself. He is inconsistent even with those. The scoring is a bonus.

Perceived effort might the highest bar because only the person watching controls it.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Coyle only has one over the top irrational hatred poster where Frederic has 4-5.

Can you make a chart for us with lovers and haters?

That would be excellent info.