At this point, the Flyers probably view giving a player a NMC a benefit for organization. It means they’re loyal to the crest. Nothing matters more than that.
God forbid a player ever exercises it though. Then you’re shunned for ever.
I feel this isn't helping your argument since they are not putting themselves in positions to have better centersTK's centers the last three years:
5x5
Couterier 797
Laughton 764
Hayes 557
Frost 546
N Cates 489
Now compare his production with Guentzel.
If he could find a Center to play with that can actually score goals he would be more productive. Goal scoring from the Center position cannot continue to be a problem if they want to do anything this coming seasonIf our PP was just normal, his pts would go up 5-10 so whatever.
At least he is likable.
Crazy rebuild. 2 RW's signed for 8 years each with Michkov.
What an era.
Compare TK's age with the perceived contention window for this team, because that's the thing that really matters.TK's centers the last three years:
5x5
Couterier 797
Laughton 764
Hayes 557
Frost 546
N Cates 489
Now compare his production with Guentzel.
That's a bottom 10 teamI think 2027-28 is when they expect to become competitive as in top 8 quality.
By then, the top picks in 2025 should arrive, or the players acquired in trades for those picks.
Farabee (27) - Luchanko (21) - Michkov (22)
Tippett (28) - Frost (28) - TK (30)
Foerster (25) - Couts (35) - Brink (26)
Avon (24) - Poehling (29) - Tuomaala (24)
Bump (23) - Rizzo (26) - Barkey (22) - Berglund (21) - Ruohonen (21) - Desnoyers (25)
York (26) - Sanheim (31)
Andrae (25) - Drysdale (25)/Bonk (22)
McDonald (25) - Sotheran (22)
Ersson (27) - Zavragin (22) - Bjarnason (22) - Kolosov (25)
Obviously, there will be changes, they'll probably make a major trade or two.
But even 3 years from now, this will be one of the younger teams in the league.
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I said last offseason Briere had made some baby steps in the right direction, but much more was needed for me to think they had actually changed. One thing I mentioned was trading one or more of TK, Laughton, or Hart. Whelp. New Era of the same old shit. And I love TK.
Oh well. On a personal level, at least the last jersey I bought (and maybe ever will, at this point) will still be relevant for 8 more years. Not like I've worn it more than a couple times, but still. Small victories.
And hey, @Rich Nixon at least you know you'll never lack for writing material. The Flyers well is a bottomless pit.
I think 2027-28 is when they expect to become competitive as in top 8 quality.
By then, the top picks in 2025 should arrive, or the players acquired in trades for those picks.
Farabee (27) - Luchanko (21) - Michkov (22)
Tippett (28) - Frost (28) - TK (30)
Foerster (25) - Couts (35) - Brink (26)
Avon (24) - Poehling (29) - Tuomaala (24)
Bump (23) - Rizzo (26) - Barkey (22) - Berglund (21) - Ruohonen (21) - Desnoyers (25)
York (26) - Sanheim (31)
Andrae (25) - Drysdale (25)/Bonk (22)
McDonald (25) - Sotheran (22)
Ersson (27) - Zavragin (22) - Bjarnason (22) - Kolosov (25)
Obviously, there will be changes, they'll probably make a major trade or two.
But even 3 years from now, this will be one of the younger teams in the league.
Preserve the culture.“When you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does…Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way.”
-Briere
I’ve made this point before that the Flyers were religiously anti-NTC before Fletcher. It was Giroux previously, and that’s it. Even Voracek signed a max deal with no NTC. Ever since Fletcher arrived (and we know Briere+Flahr is a direct continuation), they giddily hand out NTCs like candy. Even to 4th liners. I remember when Minnesota got bit in the ass in the expansion draft because of this. They simply don’t care and have a NTC fetish.
That's a bottom 10 team
I think 2027-28 is when they expect to become competitive as in top 8 quality.
By then, the top picks in 2025 should arrive, or the players acquired in trades for those picks.
Farabee (27) - Luchanko (21) - Michkov (22)
Tippett (28) - Frost (28) - TK (30)
Foerster (25) - Couts (35) - Brink (26)
Avon (24) - Poehling (29) - Tuomaala (24)
Bump (23) - Rizzo (26) - Barkey (22) - Berglund (21) - Ruohonen (21) - Desnoyers (25)
York (26) - Sanheim (31)
Andrae (25) - Drysdale (25)/Bonk (22)
McDonald (25) - Sotheran (22)
Ersson (27) - Zavragin (22) - Bjarnason (22) - Kolosov (25)
Obviously, there will be changes, they'll probably make a major trade or two.
But even 3 years from now, this will be one of the younger teams in the league.
Rebuilds...
Gives a FULL NMC to a 27 y old RW for 6 years...
Being GM of this team would be so damned easy.Being a NHL GM is easy. Have a 25 year old RW score 53 points? Chuck him $50 million, and max term. Have a 27 year old RW score 68 points? Throw $70 million at him, and do it early so you take on a full nine years worth of risk. No imagination required.
You know it’s bad when EVERY prospect is assumed to hit in a daydreamy future projected lineup — with the rebuild over — and it still looks like utter crap. Half those guys will bust/underperform or get sold low (Frost in a 2027 lineup!).![]()
One of us. One of us. One of us.The quicker you all understand that the Flyers ownership doesn’t care all that much about winning and that the men at the top of the hockey ops department are woefully unqualified, the sooner the healing can begin.
This team is destined to flounder in mediocrity for the next decade and probably beyond. I’ll hang out here cause I like a lot of you degenerates and I dig spending time in the Quackverse, but when it comes to the Flyers, it’s time to stop giving a shit.
“When you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does…Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way.”