Management Travis Green [Head Coach]

[Tuna99]

This last good stretch, and the poor stretch before it, has the feel of "show me a good coach, and I'll show you a great goalie" to it.

Ullmark has changed the narrative around the team, but Green had them playing well even when the wins weren't coming. We were underperforming before, and overperforming now, both situations likely had a lot to do with the goaltending.

That said, we are playing with more confidence, which means we aren't folding when something goes wrong. Hopefully that's a sign of the team maturing, and not just riding a high wave.

Also coincide with 7-9-19 being out together.

I think we started the season as a cohesive group, they lost a couple and Brady and a few players went rogue outside the system (it was chaos here for a few weeks the Sens were floating trading Norris at this time and the Brady stuff was in full swing) and I think Green got the players recommitted to the system and we see now a group that is always in formation and surrounding the puck and their passing is like it was the first 5 games of the season.

Brady looks way calmer after loses as well, I think Green got through to him and have leveled his head a bit, he’s not only playing within the system his post and pre game comments are more level and focused

And with all that, Ullmark has recent better stats then he ever did in Boston because Ottawa plays a better system then Boston does so I think the goalie and system coincided at the same time

 

[inthewings]

Edit: wrong thread

 

[Tuna99]

Can we put Travis Green in charge of the O-Line, this guy fixes everything he toyches

Losing - fixed
Goaltending - fixed
Need a head coach - fixed
Attendance - fixed
Fun to be a Sens fan - fixed
Rizpek - fixed
Being a jerk to Bruce Garriochote - fixed
Timmy iearnug the Superstar - fixed
Brady being in Ottawa - fixed
JBD - fixed
Batherson- fixed
Bringing Alfie into the fold - fixed
Respecting a former Maple Leaf - fixed

I want to hug this guy and just say thanks, i’ll have my chance this summer t the parade

 

[Burrowsaurus]

lol as if they put green chirping the defense in the postgame twitter video

 

[Micklebot]

lol as if they put green chirping the defense in the postgame twitter video

What did he say? I didnt see anything id describe as chirping the D, maybe it was cut out from the clip I found...

 

[Burrowsaurus]

What did he say? I didnt see anything id describe as chirping the D, maybe it was cut out from the clip I found...

He said “before overtime I heard Ully say the defence hasn’t made a breakout pass all night so I’ll do it myself”

I know it’s facetious.

 

[Micklebot]

He said “before overtime I heard Ully say the defence hasn’t made a breakout pass all night so I’ll do it myself”

I know it’s facetious.

Lol, that's awesome

 

[JackieDaytona]

I love the overall attitude Green exudes in post game and media interviews and sound bites this season vs previous. Green gets credit for setting the tone. Staios same, from the top down. Ullmark too, and it’s contagious in the room.

Stoic, expressing focus on a bigger plan and picture. Everything is calmer, steadier coming from the team and org, whether it’s on an upswing like now, or in a down spiral like a month ago.

Seeing how these aspects are handled now makes the retrospective view of the last regime that much worse. Braying donkey and meathead rolling for f***in bounces n pizza.

What a time to be a sens fan.

 

[LiseL]

He said “before overtime I heard Ully say the defence hasn’t made a breakout pass all night so I’ll do it myself”

I know it’s facetious.

But also a ring of truth, zing.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I love the overall attitude Green exudes in post game and media interviews and sound bites this season vs previous. Green gets credit for setting the tone. Staios same, from the top down. Ullmark too, and it’s contagious in the room.

Stoic, expressing focus on a bigger plan and picture. Everything is calmer, steadier coming from the team and org, whether it’s on an upswing like now, or in a down spiral like a month ago.

Seeing how these aspects are handled now makes the retrospective view of the last regime that much worse. Braying donkey and meathead rolling for f***in bounces n pizza.

What a time to be a sens fan.

I don't think Green is a top coach in the league or anything like that, but it's night and day how much better he has this team playing than DJ. Really goes to show how terrible of a coach DJ was, a total budget hire.

 

[Samsquanch]

Just about all of the advanced stats point to exactly what we see on the ice and for our record - Travis Green's Senators are an above average team in all areas. There is structure, expectations, and a standard thats been set in a short amount of time with the team.

Again you have at least be starting to believe that our management team might actually have perfectly identified Green as being the right coach for this team, if you arent already convinced. If Jensen and Ulmark werent proof enough that they know what their doing out there, then Id hope that the fact that the Senators are playing 1000% better defensively under Green surely will warm the heart of the coldest doubters.

 

[SensFanInMTL]

 

[Tuna99]

I don't think Green is a top coach in the league or anything like that, but it's night and day how much better he has this team playing than DJ. Really goes to show how terrible of a coach DJ was, a total budget hire.

Why don’t you think he’s not one of the better coaches in the NHL?

He’s turned around this this 7 year gong show in 20 games.

 

[JD1]

Idk. Our goaltending was so bad that we never had a chance to be good. We're looking great with Ullmark in the net in part because of how calm he is. He handles the puck well and he gets whistles. Whistles are great. You get to reset. You're not chasing. You're not getting tired. Literally every other goalie was a nightmare contributing to the running around in our end. Goalies contribute to good defensive play. Unfortunately ours have all been of the tank commander variety

 

[Micklebot]

I've been pretty happy with Green and his staff so far.

The underlying numbers look good,
The bad turnovers have been limited
The PP has been strong
The PK is showing signs of improvement

It's been a good start to his tenure, still too early to draw strong conclusions about how good a coach he is, but so far so good.

I do wonder how different DJ Smith's reputation would be with Ullmark in net though. Good goaltending goes a long way.

 

[thinkwild]

As a fan sitting on the couch, it's hard for me to evaluate the coach. For all i know, DJ was the better coach but the players have finally bought in. Last year i remember Jacques saying how he told the team about how they have to work much harder if they want to win. At the start of the year, it seemed many of the same issues were on display. But then, coinciding with the arrival of elite goaltending, the team, the coach, the trade threads are all improved. Although some of the issues still make an appearance, the wins allow us to not focus on it.

They are playing better. The players definitely deserve credit. The coach surely deserves credit too. I just dont how to tell how much.

 

[PlayOn]

As a fan sitting on the couch, it's hard for me to evaluate the coach. For all i know, DJ was the better coach but the players have finally bought in. Last year i remember Jacques saying how he told the team about how they have to work much harder if they want to win. At the start of the year, it seemed many of the same issues were on display. But then, coinciding with the arrival of elite goaltending, the team, the coach, the trade threads are all improved. Although some of the issues still make an appearance, the wins allow us to not focus on it.

They are playing better. The players definitely deserve credit. The coach surely deserves credit too. I just dont how to tell how much.

When Green was hired, the media basically suggested that the Vancouver stars were really young at the time of his tenure and weren’t ready to buy in and that the Sens core was more ready so he’d have a better time here. That’s probably at least in part what happened with DJ, Pinto kind of alluded to it when Jacques came in. They asked him what the difference was and he said they’re maturing and committing more and something about how young players don’t always listen.

It’s hard to compare them honestly. DJ basically had a chaotic franchise with a bunch of 21 year olds that thought the Stanley Cup was knocking on their door. Green got a group that was humbled over and over again and flat out told by respected people in charge they would never win unless they changed their ways.

 

[Loach]

When Green was hired, the media basically suggested that the Vancouver stars were really young at the time of his tenure and weren’t ready to buy in and that the Sens core was more ready so he’d have a better time here. That’s probably at least in part what happened with DJ, Pinto kind of alluded to it when Jacques came in. They asked him what the difference was and he said they’re maturing and committing more and something about how young players don’t always listen.

It’s hard to compare them honestly. DJ basically had a chaotic franchise with a bunch of 21 year olds that thought the Stanley Cup was knocking on their door. Green got a group that was humbled over and over again and flat out told by respected people in charge they would never win unless they changed their ways.

I think Martin and Alfie's influence on this team is being overlooked.

 

[PlayOn]

I think Martin and Alfie's influence on this team is being overlooked.

They were massive additions.

There’s no substitute for the franchise’s best player telling you that you need to play 200 ft of the ice. If you’re going to fight DJ Smith or Travis Green on that because of your ego, there is no narrative you can spin when it comes from Alfie.

But I don’t say that to discredit Green either, he’s always being considered for jobs so obviously he knows his stuff. Just making the point that the org you work for has a big impact on how far you can take a team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think Martin and Alfie's influence on this team is being overlooked.

Well there is a lot of continuity there with the messages to the player and Alfie being there again.
Jacques made a very positive contribution. I just wish it started 2-3 years earlier. Remember all the pouting when DJ was let go.. its a stark difference in coaching philosophies and the need to not just let young players go get their cookies and the importance of the details.

 

[h2]

My big nitpicks with Green so far are his goaltending selections have been weird at times this season, and the insistence of playing Hamonic (even over JBD when the D is fully healthy).

All things considered, that's not bad at all. Good start.

 

[Tuna99]

When Green was hired, the media basically suggested that the Vancouver stars were really young at the time of his tenure and weren’t ready to buy in and that the Sens core was more ready so he’d have a better time here. That’s probably at least in part what happened with DJ, Pinto kind of alluded to it when Jacques came in. They asked him what the difference was and he said they’re maturing and committing more and something about how young players don’t always listen.

It’s hard to compare them honestly. DJ basically had a chaotic franchise with a bunch of 21 year olds that thought the Stanley Cup was knocking on their door. Green got a group that was humbled over and over again and flat out told by respected people in charge they would never win unless they changed their ways.

DJ also worked for a GM who didn’t defend his players or have any ability to control the media and spin things positively for his players and take the heat off them. every season under Dorion for the last 3 was “we are going to make the playoffs” and it never felt they were close or had any support to get there.

Green’s reframing of the Brady “don’t be mad at him because he’s emotional and wants to win” is classic coach reframing the criticism and defending his players. Nobody said Brady was to emotional that wasn’t what the fans were saying, they were saying he doesn’t stick to the system and backcheck and have the details we expect from a Captain, but Green such a savvy veteran and gives his Captain space by showing his greatest quality and one the fans love as a weakness he’ll fix.

Green is doing a great job. In a 7 game series his ability to see the game and get through to his player will be very fun to watch.

 

[Micklebot]

I think Martin and Alfie's influence on this team is being overlooked.

I think it's hard from a fan perspective to really know how much of an impact they've had.

It's hard enough to how much impact the head
coach actually has let alone a consultant and 3rd assistant, at Baumgartner and Yeo are in charge of the D/PK and forwards/PP respectively, Alfie seems to be in a development role (both in terms of his own development and player dev) and who knows what Martin does.

That's not to say you're wrong, I just don't see any way we as fans could possibly isolate their impact.

To me, it's best to judge the group as a whole, they, as a coaching staff, seem to have been doing well imo.

 

[Loach]

I think it's hard from a fan perspective to really know how much of an impact they've had.

It's hard enough to how much impact the head
coach actually has let alone a consultant and 3rd assistant, at Baumgartner and Yeo are in charge of the D/PK and forwards/PP respectively, Alfie seems to be in a development role (both in terms of his own development and player dev) and who knows what Martin does.

That's not to say you're wrong, I just don't see any way we as fans could possibly isolate their impact.

To me, it's best to judge the group as a whole, they, as a coaching staff, seem to have been doing well imo.

I meant more last year leading into the new group this year. I agree, whatever is going on seems to be the right track with the group as a whole.