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Traverse City Prospect Tournament 2018

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Heads must roll if they don't come back and win this one!

Oh its just a warm-up thing before camp with zero preparation and throw together teams? Why do we care about the score again lol?

Detroit have scored goals because we push a little too hard and they can just back down and let us skate into trouble and turn into -- an ocean -- of ice in the neutral zone. Holmström-Ehn is playing a thight game for them and there top 4 D have done a good job shutting us down. We have just been to naive as a team, many guys looking to get going and make a good impression instead of playing more of a cynic team game designed to get 2 pts. I completely fail to see at all what these facts have to do with the status of our prospects. I just can't.

Thought Andersson looked great in the 2nd. Liked most of our kids, Chyts was a little invisible but there was a lot of penalties.
 
Kovalev27 said:
I’m actually serious if there’s one thing he really does well it’s bury pucks when given chances. He’s missed a few here. That one just flat out missed the net from point blank.
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Might have been a save, very hard to actually see

I think Andersson has been pretty good this game. Part of the problem is that the coaches just roll lines so the Rangers best players don't get leaned on so you see them only every 3-4 minutes
 
Osminator said:
Yes... its TC... Yes... it is a meaningless tournament... Yes Yes Yes.
Still... why the f do the NYR always seem to be outmatched, outclassed, outsmarted, outplayed and outscored every single year? Why why why?
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I have good news for you -- we haven't! ;)
 
All this shows me is that prospect teams can just pressure us and we can’t deal w it just like the big club.

Not that it matters that much as others have said but it looks very familiar.
 
Ola said:
Heads must roll if they don't come back and win this one!

Oh its just a warm-up thing before camp with zero preparation and throw together teams? Why do we care about the score again lol?

Detroit have scored goals because we push a little too hard and they can just back down and let us skate into trouble and turn into -- an ocean -- of ice in the neutral zone. Holmström-Ehn is playing a thight game for them and there top 4 D have done a good job shutting us down. We have just been to naive as a team, many guys looking to get going and make a good impression instead of playing more of a cynic team game designed to get 2 pts. I completely fail to see at all what these facts have to do with the status of our prospects. I just can't.

Thought Andersson looked great in the 2nd. Liked most of our kids, Chyts was a little invisible but there was a lot of penalties.
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Yeah I agree, Rangers don't look remotely in sync and there's a lot of weird decisions with the puck being made. Like I said earlier, Lindgren has been all over the place and maybe jumping up on the play a bit too much. Not a ton of team play
 
gravey9 said:
A few observations to add on Lias' skating.

1) Minny's second goal in the game the other day was scored off the rush. It started with a turnover just inside the Minny blueline and quickly turned around. At the time, Lias was trying to get back and at first had a few steps on the Minny puck carrier in the neutral zone, Lias was quickly surpassed. By the time the scoring play happened Lias wasn't even involved in the play. He was a good 10-15 feet behind. If this were the end of a long shift, I'd chalk it up to being winded. But this was 20 seconds into his shift (and this was BEFORE he blocked the shot on the PK. So, either this was a lack of effort, an undisclosed injury from an earlier play or it's his skating. If it's his skating, the problem is more than a minor issue. After all, this wasn't the NHL or AHL, it was a prospects game and the play in question was just about effort and skating. (He was actually in decent position to impact the play when it started but he didn't keep up).

2) Lastly, what we're talking about seems more specific than skating, it's his foot speed. I was watching some prospect videos before this year's draft and in one of the videos there was an off-ice training session at a gym in Sweden that Lias was a part of. A few things jumped out. First, most prospects Lias' age are generally lanky and gawky. Lias is totally filled out. Really muscular. Solid.

But when they got to this one fairly advanced footspeed drill that used a platform -- there was a striking difference between Lias and the other lanky prospect. Lias was going half the speed as the taller, leaner prospect. Not sorta slower. Like literally half the speed. Where the other kid seemed light on his feet and bounced on and off the platform with very quick muscle reaction, Lias really struggled. It was not a fun drill for Lias.

Point is, when we talk about Lias' skating, I'm not convinced we're talking about his balance or strength or even stride. We're talking about footspeed. How quickly he can get his legs to generate power. So, sprinting from a standing position, changing directions on a dime, etc. I don't know enough about the art of skating to know HOW MUCH Lias can improve on this. But this is the big culprit. And I don't agree with this assertion that he hasn't worked on his skating. I am willing to guarantee he has. I just think whatever he's done so far hasn't impacted his on-ice abilities. Yet.

Finally, I am rooting hard for this kid. I really like his attitude. I like his skills, his awareness. He's a glue guy. And I think he will have a successful pro career (in the NHL or overseas). And that's why I'm a bit nervous for him with this skating issue. In over 3 and a half decades of being a Rangers fan, there are few players who get demonized more than ones with skating issues. It's because the fans see a lack of footspeed as a lack of endurance or effort. When it's simply their feet. If Lias doesn't make it in the NHL it won't be from lack of effort or heart -- it will purely be from lack of god-given abilities. I still have a lot of hope he can overcome this footspeed issue.
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I wish we knew what the real issue is with his feet/legs. There is something there but we don't really know for sure what. Maybe he had many a pulled groins and is afraid to get another.
 
Levitate said:
Might have been a save, very hard to actually see

I think Andersson has been pretty good this game. Part of the problem is that the coaches just roll lines so the Rangers best players don't get leaned on so you see them only every 3-4 minutes
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Looked like he just got it airborne, must have bounced up on the stick when he fired it. Had a ton of net to aim at, thought it would have been a goal. Sometimes you almost get too much net to shoot at, had he just put it between the pipes with the umph on it, it probably is a goal.
 
also holy goddamn stop getting into the slot and then passing the puck, just shoot it

they keep making great plays to get into the slot and then just passing the puck away. pissing away chances.
 
Riche16 said:
All this shows me is that prospect teams can just pressure us and we can’t deal w it just like the big club.

Not that it matters that much as others have said but it looks very familiar.
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Obviously we just need to draft grinders and tuffness instead of skill and talent.
 
how is that not tripping

e: I mean I guess Fontaine maybe just couldn't get around cleanly but that certainly didn't look like a "hip check"
 
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