Boston Bruins Training Camp

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BRIGHTON – When Nikita Zadorov signed with Boston as a free agent over the summer, a lot of Bruins breathed a sigh of relief. None were more audible than team captain Brad Marchand. For years, the all-star winger did his best to avoid getting caught in the 6-foot-6, 248-pound defenseman’s...

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Bruins Brad Marchand a Motivating Force at Camp

BRIGHTON – Brad Marchand was one happy camper, Wednesday morning at Warrior Arena. After spending the first three weeks on the mend, recovering from multiple offseason surgeries, the Bruins team captain was a full participant at training camp. The 5-foot-9, 176-pound all-star left winger...

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[Dennis Bonvie]

I don't agree that he's at his peak, I think he absolutely could do more with increased minutes and responsibility. 18 goals and 40 points while averaging under 14min a game, if he gets consistent PP and top 6 time I don't think it's crazy to think there's a 20+ goal 50 point player there.

He's not getting that. Nor should he.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

There is 5 more pre-season games to play, so anything can change. But Lysell being waive exempt means he will have to soundly outplay his competition. I see him, Merk, and Beecher starting in Prov as things currently stand. So I agree with you.
Poitras is in the same situation as Lysell. The only difference is Poitras shows he is NHL caliber every shift so far and is worth a spot. Lysell will need to get to that level to take a vets job from them and risk them being taken in waivers.

I am all for Lysell getting time in the NHL, its just looking like an uphill battle. He will have to beat out Tyler Johnson soundly.

Beecher starting in Providence would be a huge mistake, unless he basically plays himself off the roster during camp. he earned his spot last season. You don't send him down to save a Patrick Brown who won't get claimed anyway (and if he does good for him)

Merk to Providence, of course, nothing from camp of in the 2 games has given me any reason to doubt he belongs in Providence.

Lysell if he earns it he should stay, we'll see

Poitras only goes down if they feel he is recovering still and needs a month or so, but nothing I have heard indicated that would happen.

That said a couple of these guys may live on the paper shuttle this year as they try to bank additional cap space.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I look at it as a strength of depth thing. Last season they used 22 forwards. The season before that, they used 22 forwards.

If you send Lysell down, you can use both Johnson and Lysell this year. If you let Johnson walk you're stuck with a mixture of rookies and AHL vets.

(Again, this is assuming that Johnson looks better than the AHL vets and Lysell doesn't really distinguish/separate himself.)

I am curious as to how close we are to that 22 from an expectation standpoint:
1. Zacha
2. Lindholm
3. Pastrnak
4. Marchand
5. Coyle
6. Geekie
7. Frederic
8. Jones
9. Kastelic
10. Brazeau
11. Poitras
12. Tufte
13. Lysell
14. Merkulov
15. Brown
16. Lettieri
17. Koepke
18. Farinacci
19. Kuntar
20. Duran
21. Beecher (whoops!)
22. Viel, Mclaughlin, Tyler Johnson, any other roster moves made throughout the year - deadline pickups etc

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

There is 5 more pre-season games to play, so anything can change. But Lysell being waive exempt means he will have to soundly outplay his competition. I see him, Merk, and Beecher starting in Prov as things currently stand. So I agree with you.
Poitras is in the same situation as Lysell. The only difference is Poitras shows he is NHL caliber every shift so far and is worth a spot. Lysell will need to get to that level to take a vets job from them and risk them being taken in waivers.

I am all for Lysell getting time in the NHL, its just looking like an uphill battle. He will have to beat out Tyler Johnson soundly.

Why would you start Beecher in Providence?

Seems to be an ideal 4th line center at the NHL level.

 

[Bodit9]

So, no contract for Johnson and Brown is down along with the rest of the providence players.

Could very well be right, but I don't think Beecher has a guaranteed spot on the 4th line yet. That 4C position still is close between several players right now, IMO. 5 more games to figure it out and Beecher is gonna have to win it like he did last year.


I think Johnson is solely here to push the kids. So no one thinks DeBrusks spot is a gimmie. If you catch my drift.
Im fine with that, but it means Lysell will have to outplay Johnson consistently in the next 5 games.

Time will tell.

Yes, no contract for Johnson and send Brown down. I'm fine bringing in Johnson to compete. Ultimately I like the guys we have. I think Beecher has graduated. Tufte looks like a late bloomer to me. First round talent with a steady PPG rise in the AHL. Not top 6 but with his size and a bit of offensive touch, I like him in bottom 6. Poitras can feed Braz and Freddy all day. Geekie not ideal at 2RW but serviceable.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

So, no contract for Johnson and Brown is down along with the rest of the providence players.

Could very well be right, but I don't think Beecher has a guaranteed spot on the 4th line yet. That 4C position still is close between several players right now, IMO. 5 more games to figure it out and Beecher is gonna have to win it like he did last year.


I think Johnson is solely here to push the kids. So no one thinks DeBrusks spot is a gimmie. If you catch my drift.
Im fine with that, but it means Lysell will have to outplay Johnson consistently in the next 5 games.

Time will tell.

Marchand's comments seem to indicate he wants Geekie on his RW.

He's the captain, he's the leader, he's the veteran that has earned everything he has.

Seems to me he will be accommodated.

Beecher back to Providence would shock me.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Why would you start Beecher in Providence?

Seems to be an ideal 4th line center at the NHL level.

Because he is waiver exempt and other players are not. Also, if he gets outplayed by Brown he could end up in Providence, which in two games so far he has. Though I am sure that will be debated.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Because he is waiver exempt and other players are not. Also, if he gets outplayed by Brown he could end up in Providence, which in two games so far he has. Though I am sure that will be debated.

Really don't think performance in pre-season will determine who stays between Beecher and Brown.

Brown's here as insurance, Beecher's here to play and gain experience.

 

[Bodit9]

Because he is waiver exempt and other players are not. Also, if he gets outplayed by Brown he could end up in Providence, which in two games so far he has. Though I am sure that will be debated.

To me, Brown is the serviceable veteran tweener who can be an AHL leader or NHL depth call up. And my sense is he is ok in that role. A consummate pro. I like him but want Beecher to develop in the NHL.

 

[Kegs]

Because he is waiver exempt and other players are not. Also, if he gets outplayed by Brown he could end up in Providence, which in two games so far he has. Though I am sure that will be debated.

Browns been really good in the preseason.

 

[whatsbruin]

I guess my thing is what development does Lysell have left in the AHL? We already know for a fact he can generate and produce at that level, is another couple months gonna suddenly turn him into a great defender? The next step for him is to find out if he can produce at the NHL level, and that only happens in the NHL.

He's been our top prospect for years now, he's paid his dues in the minors, and we have gaping hole at 2RW that just so happens to be his natural position. f*** playing the waiver game, the time is now. The team NEEDS players that can generate offense that aren't named Marchand and Pasta.

In my opinion, historically, if 2 players produce the same (player 1 and player 2) but player 1 won't get better but is a safer player than player 2, who will get better, Boston goes with player 1. If they were a playoff bubble team from the get go, maybe do that, but they pretty much make the playoffs every year, so I'd rather they go with player 2, who should/will develop over the course of the year and be better than player 1 at the end of the season and contribute more in the playoffs.

 

[JCRO]

 

[HumBucker]

Looking forward to seeing the debut of ZadAvoy!

 

[mar2kbos]

Be interesting to see if they put Potsy between Zacha and Pasta.

 

[Alicat]

Looking forward to ZadAvoy as well as Tyler Johnson, Geekie, Zacha and Pasta. Will be curious to see who is on the PK.

I get crapped on every year but PK is a big deal. Dropping from 2nd in 2022-2023 (84.9%) down to 7th last season (82.5%) is just not ok with me. We've been in the top 3 in PK 3 of the last 5 years. If one of the younger/pto guys wants to make the team, this is an area that could boost their chance over someone else.

 

[DaBroons]

Yep. Thats my point. It can factor in even if one or more of those guys have played well.

 

[A1LeafNation]

It looks like Potsy on line 1 and PP1 tonight.

I hope it's on TV for me tonight.

 

[DaBroons]

Zacha - Lindy - Pasta

Marchand - Cholly Coyle - Poitras/Geekie/Lysell

Freddy - Poitras - Brazeau/Geekie

Jones/Tufte - Beecher - Kastelic/Brazeau

Z - Cholly McAvoy
Lindy - Carlo
Lohrei - Peeke
Wotherspoon

 

[PlayMakers]

Between these comments and the comments he made about the prospects having a lot to prove, it is clear Marchand wants Geekie on the wing, not Lysell. Can't say I blame him. He's already playing second line, he wants to get back to his all-star level, why would he want to carry a turnover machine rookie as a development project for the team?

I think he's been hinting at wanting no part of a rookie wing all along. He's the one who reminded everyone that him and Coyle play against top lines and that whoever they play with needs to defend well and take pride in that... That doesn't sound like a rookie.

 

[Alicat]

It looks like Potsy on line 1 and PP1 tonight.

I hope it's on TV for me tonight.

NHL Network has the game according to the Bruins site

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Browns been really good in the preseason.

Sure he's been good, but he is a very proven vet. He is what he is and isn't going to make a leap in his age 32 season. And evaluating him in games against AHL talent like the last 2 games doesn't change that.

Yes Brown requires clearing waivers, but there is probably a 2% chance he gets claimed, and if he does you shake his hand and wish him well. Otherwise he is the coach on the ice for Providence, and gets called up if necessary,

 

[PlayMakers]

I am curious as to how close we are to that 22 from an expectation standpoint:
1. Zacha
2. Lindholm
3. Pastrnak
4. Marchand
5. Coyle
6. Geekie
7. Frederic
8. Jones
9. Kastelic
10. Brazeau
11. Poitras
12. Tufte
13. Lysell
14. Merkulov
15. Brown
16. Lettieri
17. Koepke
18. Farinacci
19. Kuntar
20. Duran
21. Beecher (whoops!)
22. Viel, Mclaughlin, Tyler Johnson, any other roster moves made throughout the year - deadline pickups etc

Yeah, even with Johnson it gets pretty slim after 18 or 19.

1. Pasta
2. Marchand
3. Lindholm
4. Coyle
5. Zacha
6. Poitras
7. Frederic
8. Geekie
9. Brazeau
10. Jones
11. Kastelic
12. Beecher
13. Johnson
14. Tufte
15. Lysell
16. Merkulov
17. Duran
18. Brown
19. Lettieri
20. Kuntar
21. Koepke
22. McLaughlin, Nelson,

 

[A1LeafNation]

NHL Network has the game according to the Bruins site

Ty ty!

 

[PB37]

Marchand's comments seem to indicate he wants Geekie on his RW.

He's the captain, he's the leader, he's the veteran that has earned everything he has.

Seems to me he will be accommodated.

Beecher back to Providence would shock me.

What did Marchand say about Geekie? I missed that one.