What does him improving have to do with him being over rated?
Nothing, his character and work ethic will allow him to improve, but that changes nothing about him being over rated. He has a long road ahead of him if he is ever going to be a full time NHL D man....his skating is a huge issue and that is not a quick fix. I hope he exceeds the expectations of his biggest supporters as it would mean that he is a top 4 D man in the NHL and I would be ecstatic if that were to happen.
Are you guys serious lol? This whole year there have been multiple posters clamouring how Finn looks like he has "legit top pairing potential" and he's gonna be "at least a great #3" down the road. I dont have a list of folks who said stuff like that because i dont care enough to keep track of such stupid things, but oh my god yes, people were definitely saying such things.
Wow...I didn't realize Finn just announced his retirement. I guess you are right. Just out of curiousity...what does "down the road" in your sentence above mean to you ?
In all fairness, all players, especially defenseman have weaknesses at his age. I wasn't overly impressed with him either, but he still has a lot of opportunity to improve.
Look at Tavares for example; he wasn't a very good skater at 19 or 20, but a few years really focussing on skating can have excellent results. I'm sure he knows it's something he needs to improve, now it's up to him to put in the work and get better.
No 20 year old should be written off so early.
It means go back and read what I said about finn in earlier posts within this thread
Christ, you people are way too protective
I say I think he has potential to be a #3-4 defenseman and that he had a great year in Guelph. You said I over-rated him. That implies either you thought he didn't have a great year in Guelph or that I'm over-estimating his potential... which is it?
If you don't disagree with either of these statements you shouldn't have quoted me and said I'm over-rating him.
I quoted you because you are among his biggest supporters. ..and have in my opinion over rated him. He had a great year last season as a player who is among the oldest players in the league playing against younger players you would hope so. You also believed he should have made the WJC team. I did not think he would ever have a chance.
I say to answer your question it is both.... you over rated His potential based on his play this past season..As well as his future potential...He needs to show he can play against bigger stronger players and be effective before we should call him anything more then a prospect...He is a project currently that has some good tools but is missing a key piece that you need to play d in the AHL never mind the NHL.
I thought that he went to high in the Draft and it shows that his tool box has some tools hence the place he went in the Draft....With skating Such a key component in playing in the NHL. .
Finn's mobility seems to be an issue as he got walked numerous times in the rookie tournament and got caught standing still or flat footed.
Perhaps management want him to get some 1 on 1 time with skating coach Barb Underhill and work on this skating before the Marlies season begins and the rest of the team shows up for their camp.
The bolder makes no sense, most prospects dont play against older players until they reach the NHL or AHL. So you're saying we can't say how good a player like Draisaitl, Bennett, etc. will be because they haven't played against bigger/stronger players? We myswell not even try to evaluate any prospects then...
He was rated by most scouts as a higher pick then where he was taken and I trust our own scouts more than your opinion at the draft. 95%+ of people on this board don't watch enough of players picked outside the top 10 to actually have a good read on them... even then there's a good chance you're not watching/paying attention to every play they're making.
And I still believe Finn should have made the WJ team along with Connor Brown. We got demolished so I find it hard to believe that hockey Canada made the right calls on every player. I think HC needs to focus on picking the best current players, not the players with the best potential. Finn could of helped that team and I think a lot of people (including nonleaf fans) agree with that or at least think it's possible.
For those who missed the list of cuts
Matt Finn
Stefan Della Rovere
Brett Findlay
Spencer Machacek
Ryan Rupert
Francis Wathier
Patrick Watling
Matt Rupert
Carter Verhaeghe
Cody Donaghey
All sent to the AHL for now besides for Rupert and Verhaeghe who are going back to Jr.
What does him improving have to do with him being over rated now?
Nothing, his character and work ethic will allow him to improve, but that changes nothing about him being over rated. He has a long road ahead of him if he is ever going to be a full time NHL D man....his skating is a huge issue and that is not a quick fix. I hope he exceeds the expectations of his biggest supporters as it would mean that he is a top 4 D man in the NHL and I would be ecstatic if that were to happen.
For those curious remaining....
Bolded the ones I think will go next,
FREDERIK GAUTHIER F
For those who missed the list of cuts
Matt Finn
Stefan Della Rovere
Brett Findlay
Spencer Machacek
Ryan Rupert
Francis Wathier
Patrick Watling
Matt Rupert
Carter Verhaeghe
Cody Donaghey
All sent to the AHL for now besides for Rupert and Verhaeghe who are going back to Jr.
I wonder how bad his [Gauthier's] injury is, I would think they'd want him to get into at least one game.
Well as for Finn, this is not a end all be all thing to happen but I must say, I am disappointed that his camp was so poor to warrant a cut so early.
It's not the sign I was hoping to see.