Training Camp/Preseason games Thread 2021

[Fishhead]

Can we get all of the reports/images/video clips from training camp here in one neat place? Also, with so many attendees there are going to be lots of cuts and so on. It's easier to find all this stuff if it's not buried in the ongoing roster thread.

I'll start by sharing a shot I took of Kaliyev today without his makeup on.

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[kilowatt]

Can we get all of the reports/images/video clips from training camp here in one neat place? Also, with so many attendees there are going to be lots of cuts and so on. It's easier to find all this stuff if it's not buried in the ongoing roster thread.

I'll start by sharing a shot I took of Kaliyev today without his makeup on.

He looks pretty good considering he's pushing 60!

Agreed on the camp thread. A couple links to kick us off:

Kings training camp: 20 observations from Day 1, including a Drew Doughty scouting report

Kings Training Camp Day 1: Player A, B, and C Groups

Something Has To Give Soon, Kings Players Headed to a Trade or Waivers

Day 1 Notes - Early Expectations, Summer Successes & New Guys + Lines, Notes & Updates - LA Kings Insider

https://www.letsgokings.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=383

 

[kilowatt]

One interesting point to note: All the Kings are vaccinated.

Kings general manager Rob Blake said this week that the entire team had been vaccinated but that one player still needed to be two full weeks removed from his second shot. The player was not identified.

“He’s skating with the other group,” McLellan said. “He’s in a different locker room. He’s fully masked. … This isn’t something we fool around with. We’re taking what we feel are steps that are necessary to protect the group without losing the player. He’s a very important player to our team.

“He’s going to be a very important player. We wanted him to know he’s valued still. So we get him all the information. It’s going to be actually very quick before he’s involved with the whole group.”

 

[kilowatt]

Quick aside: my dark horse for making the roster is Turcotte.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

live action shot of Kaliyev using his IQ to make things happen

 

[Basilisk]

Can we get all of the reports/images/video clips from training camp here in one neat place? Also, with so many attendees there are going to be lots of cuts and so on. It's easier to find all this stuff if it's not buried in the ongoing roster thread.

I'll start by sharing a shot I took of Kaliyev today without his makeup on.

Is he undead?!

 

[Statto]

Is he undead?!

Given he was born decades ago, quite possibly.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Quick aside: my dark horse for making the roster is Turcotte.

At this point, Turcotte shouldn't be considered a 'dark horse.' He's a #5 pick where other players in his draft like Zegras and Caufield are already playing big minutes in the NHL.

But I agree in that he makes the big club out of camp and I can't wait.

 

[Jason Squirties]

At this point, Turcotte shouldn't be considered a 'dark horse.' He's a #5 pick where other players in his draft like Zegras and Caufield are already playing big minutes in the NHL.

But I agree in that he makes the big club out of camp and I can't wait.

You OK man? The last 5 posts I've seen from you have been borderline downers or very pessimistic. It's Friday, plan for some pizza and wings and maybe a tall cold glass of beer?

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

You OK man? The last 5 posts I've seen from you have been borderline downers or very pessimistic. It's Friday, plan for some pizza and wings and maybe a tall cold glass of beer?

How was my post pessimistic? I'm agreeing that Turcotte will make the team...is that negative now?

 

[Steve Zissou]

Visuals are good.

 

[cyclones22]

I see a few 4th and 5th round picks and future considerations coming to the Kings in that picture.

 

[Jason Squirties]

How was my post pessimistic? I'm agreeing that Turcotte will make the team...is that negative now?

Pizza and wings, man.

 

[Lt Dan]

How was my post pessimistic? I'm agreeing that Turcotte will make the team...is that negative now?

Someone is clearly pizza and wings deficient

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Visuals are good.

JAD, Kupari, Fagemo, Turcotte.....LETS GO!

 

[bland]

Can we get all of the reports/images/video clips from training camp here in one neat place? Also, with so many attendees there are going to be lots of cuts and so on. It's easier to find all this stuff if it's not buried in the ongoing roster thread.

I'll start by sharing a shot I took of Kaliyev today without his makeup on.

He was really good as Mr. Carlson on WKRP, but man, when he diddled Dudley in the bike shop I lost all respect for him.

 

[DAkings20]

Tkachev looks like a 14 year old growing his first lip sweater in that pic

 

[kingsfan]

I don't see how Madden makes this team short of a training camp for the ages. To bad we can't have a shootout ringer sitting on the bench.

 

[BringTheReign]

I don't see how Madden makes this team short of a training camp for the ages. To bad we can't have a shootout ringer sitting on the bench.

If the league had never added 3v3, it would've been pretty funny to see a DH-like position added for shootouts. I guess it would be DS for hockey.

 

[Fishhead]

Usually who ends up on the roster is dictated by waiver eligibility. I think that will be the general strategy but it wouldn't surprise me if they deviated from that a bit.

Also, if another team has injuries and they make an offer for a guy in their mid-20's, I think it's more likely this year that a deal like that would go down. The team has lots of youth, is at 48 contracts, etc.

 

[kilowatt]

As much as I appreciate asset management, if there was ever a year to let a couple guys go through waivers, it would be this one. If there are more deserving players in camp, losing an Austin Wagner or a Blake Lizotte is a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

 

[Lt Dan]

Usually who ends up on the roster is dictated by waiver eligibility. I think that will be the general strategy but it wouldn't surprise me if they deviated from that a bit.

Also, if another team has injuries and they make an offer for a guy in their mid-20's, I think it's more likely this year that a deal like that would go down. The team has lots of youth, is at 48 contracts, etc.

If this theoretically happened; I would have to imagine that it would be Kempe as a forward or Walker as a D

 

[TruKingFan]

JAD, Tkachev, Wagner, Lemieux. If the Kings carry 14 forwards, add Kupari.

 

[Statto]

The issue I have with the whole asset management thing is that some guys that get waived are worth nothing on the trade market. If no one will give you a 7th round pick for them then you are protecting an asset with zero value. So if you waive them and don’t expect to recall them then it really is a so whatever they are claimed. In fact right now it does us a favour, rather than them earning NHL money in the AHL.

It just makes zero sense to keep Kaliyev in the AHL to protect Wagner, if AK is ready - just an example. Whereas protecting someone like Andersson is a very different discussion.

 

[bland]

The issue I have with the whole asset management thing is that some guys that get waived are worth nothing on the trade market. If no one will give you a 7th round pick for them then you are protecting an asset with zero value. So if you waive them and don’t expect to recall them then it really is a so whatever they are claimed. In fact right now it does us a favour, rather than them earning NHL money in the AHL.

It just makes zero sense to keep Kaliyev in the AHL to protect Wagner, if AK is ready - just an example. Whereas protecting someone like Andersson is a very different discussion.

Kaliyev and Wagner aren't competing for the same spot though. Kaliyev is competing with Brown, Kempe, Tkachev and Athanasiou.

Kaliyev isn't suited for 8 minutes with Lizotte and Lemieux, neither are any of the vets mentioned above. Its why re-signing Athanasiou is so puzzling - that's the logjam, not with the role players.