News Article: Training camp ongoing. Camp discussion part 2

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Didn't do it at all last year. I think that is more telling then him showing up for a handful of games in 16-17 and during the playoffs.

When did the Oilers play meaningful games last year? They were out of it by American Thanksgiving as per usual.
 

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I'm not sure if I'm blindly optimistic or not but that lineup looks like a playoff calibre team for sure. I have a lot of confidence in Rattie/Pulju/Yamo and I think Bouchard is gonna surprise a lot of people.

You heard it here first. Bouchard will be the first Oiler to win a calder. I see him putting up 50 points this season quite easily.
 

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You heard it here first. Bouchard will be the first Oiler to win a calder. I see him putting up 50 points this season quite easily.
I think Dahlin is going to have something to say about that.
He also plays in the East and will geta few easy points as well.
 

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I think Oilers MSM is the best in the league. Oilers sign Jerabek to a 1 year contract (27 year old, career euro player besdies 2 sub par NHL seasons with 2 different teams) and then release him when hes not good enough (shocking). The move was no risk but no upside. But yet Oilers MSM swarm to praise Chiarelli for literally the most routine, standard, unimpressive move:



Engineering pretty much what was a standard PTO?

Every GM the Oilers bring in gets the easiest ride from the media

FTR: I didnt mind the move or the release. But it was a move every GM makes every offseason. It was complete background noise
 
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I think Oilers MSM is the best in the league. Oilers sign Jerabek to a 1 year contract (27 year old, career euro player besdies 2 sub par NHL seasons with 2 different teams) and then release him when hes not good enough (shocking). The move was no risk but no upside. But yet Oilers MSM swarm to praise Chiarelli for literally the most routine, standard, unimpressive move:



Engineering pretty much what was a standard PTO?

Every GM the Oilers bring in gets the easiest ride from the media

FTR: I didnt mind the move or the release. But it was a move every GM makes every offseason. It was complete background noise


Doesnt make them dumb moves. Nothing wrong with whats being reported here.
Chiarelli's moves while not perfect have been fine IMO this season.
 

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Doesnt make them dumb moves. Nothing wrong with whats being reported here.
Chiarelli's moves while not perfect have been fine IMO this season.

I never said they were dumb moves. It was a routine contract (essentially a PTO) for a replacement level D. This wasn't a creditworthy move that only a veteran GM can make. It was a move that every GM makes regardless of status or experience. It is a move that is comparable to MacT signing Anton Belov. Or a PTO that Jim Benning signs dozens of

Edmonton MSM will bust out the "gotta give him credit" for the most basic move of the offseason. So of course they'll carry buckets full of water when Chiarelli (or any Oilers GM) makes a truly terrible move, and will brainwash the fans

And again, the move wasnt bad or good. As far as sending Aberg down, not sure why this should be credited as a smart move. Chiarelli was the guy who traded for him in the first place. Yes he traded Letestu who had next to no value, but Chiarelli ended up not getting an NHL player. Thats to be expected for your average GM, but a savy veteran GM could have possibly gotten an NHL player. For example, when MacT traded a completely broken down Dubnyk to the Preds, he got make Hendricks (who had multiple decent seasons with us after)
 
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Raab

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I think Dahlin is going to have something to say about that.
He also plays in the East and will geta few easy points as well.

We'll see. I think Dahlin is the overall better dman, but Bouchard will put up more points. The Mcdavid effect so to speak. Also I dont think its any coincidence that 3 of the 4 games the Oiler's had Bouchard in the lineup were blowouts. Guy just creates offence due to his transition game.
 
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We'll see. I think Dahlin is the overall better dman, but Bouchard will put up more points. The Mcdavid effect so to speak. Also I dont think its any coincidence that 3 of the 4 games the Oiler's had Bouchard in the lineup were blowouts. Guy just creates offence due to his transition game.
Ya, he’s waaaay better than Nurse, Bear or Jones.
 

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When did the Oilers play meaningful games last year? They were out of it by American Thanksgiving as per usual.
What does that have to do with anything I just said? Any chance for you to shit on the team you take it even when it has nothing to do with that. Kassian doesn't have the talent not to be giving 100 percent and maybe if he did it wouldn't have be Mcdavid/RNH/Drai doing all the scoring during the start of last year.
 

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Doesnt make them dumb moves. Nothing wrong with whats being reported here.
Chiarelli's moves while not perfect have been fine IMO this season.

I think he deserves some credit for dealing with the Sekera injury.

In years past it would have been Jones thrown to the wolves or some bum playing way above his head. Chia managed to find some half decent options(considering what was out there), had them compete for a spot and gave the spot to the best option.
 

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I think Oilers MSM is the best in the league. Oilers sign Jerabek to a 1 year contract (27 year old, career euro player besdies 2 sub par NHL seasons with 2 different teams) and then release him when hes not good enough (shocking). The move was no risk but no upside. But yet Oilers MSM swarm to praise Chiarelli for literally the most routine, standard, unimpressive move:



Engineering pretty much what was a standard PTO?

Every GM the Oilers bring in gets the easiest ride from the media

FTR: I didnt mind the move or the release. But it was a move every GM makes every offseason. It was complete background noise


It’s especially hilarious that a guy like Leavins - who is somehow even less connected than Staples - rushes to praise management at any opportunity when he doesn’t even have press credentials and access to worry about. Brown nosing for literally zero benefit.
 
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It wasn’t essentially a PTO though.
I think Ace's point is that the tweet is suggesting that Chiarelli somehow deserves credit for the move, which makes zero sense because we didn't get anything out of the move positive or negative. That appears to be the bar for some of these guys.

Although I'll say its quite a stretch to call that dude a main stream media member.
 
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I think he deserves some credit for dealing with the Sekera injury.

In years past it would have been Jones thrown to the wolves or some bum playing way above his head. Chia managed to find some half decent options(considering what was out there), had them compete for a spot and gave the spot to the best option.

I don't see how it's any different than MacT's or Tambo's half measures.
I know that Chia had his hands tied (due to his own mistakes) but only a fool could have thought that Jerabek or Garrison would have in any way replaced what Sekera brought. Not to mention that Benning is now their every day 2nd pairing Dman for the 2nd straight season and a rookie is being forced into the top 6 even though the rookie deserves a look.

One can argue that the Oilers needed a D upgrade even with Sekera healthy. With him on the shelf, it's now a huge weakness that has yet to be addressed. One more injury (which is more likely than not) and it's red alert time, it might be a red alert as is.
I usually err on the optimistic side but it's hard to be optimistic about the current state of the defense.
 

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Doesnt make them dumb moves. Nothing wrong with whats being reported here.
Chiarelli's moves while not perfect have been fine IMO this season.
Giving a backup goalie with 4 NHL games under his belt a 2.5mil contract with a NMC is the very definition of a dumb move. Same with buying out Gryba and adding to the teams salary cap woes when they could have buried his contract in the minors.
 

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Giving a backup goalie with 4 NHL games under his belt a 2.5mil contract with a NMC is the very definition of a dumb move. Same with buying out Gryba and adding to the teams salary cap woes when they could have buried his contract in the minors.

To be fair with Gryba it came out on Oilers Now last week that there were extenuating circumstances. Apparently since being sent down, he hadn't handled it well and was a bad lockerroom guy. Management didn't want him around the young D and it sounded like Gryba was doing nothing to help them with their development on or off the ice.

After hearing this I feel like it's fair enough
 

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