I would argue that Polk is the top blocking WR in this class - but Coleman is certainly above average. It also goes back to the point that - aside from Samuel - they seem to be solely targeting bigger bodied players.
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It will be interesting. I really don't think teams are equipped to deal with that style of offense anymore. Figure in Josh Allen's arm, and opposing coordinators could be faced with a real problem.
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Der Jaeger
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If Claypool has a great camp, I won't be surprised to see the Bills keep 7 receivers: Samuel, Shakir, Coleman, Hollins, MVS, Shorter, and Claypool.
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I think Shavers is in that competition as well. I don't expect him to win it, but I do expect he'll get a pretty solid look at that spot along with Claypool/Shorter/Hamler/Isabella.
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Before the criticism of what I am going to write below, let it be known that I expect many of these slots to already be filled and ultimately just want the best group of receivers to help us win a Super Bowl.
That being said, for the present and future I think there are merits to wanting the following results:
Shorter to beat out Hollins for that big, blocking WR and special teams ace role. He could have a much higher ceiling at his age that Hollins has likely maximized his ability.
Claypool to beat out MVS for that tall, speedy deep threat role. MVS’s age and drop history could be replaced with a young, former early round draft pick with loads of untapped potential.
Hamler makes the team in the role we hoped Isabella would have been able to excel in last year as super fast slot and return ace. I re-watched some film from Hamler in Denver and Penn State and man would it be amazing for him to get back to that potential for the Bills. He can play inside and outside with skill, speed and tenacity.
That being said, for the present and future I think there are merits to wanting the following results:
Shorter to beat out Hollins for that big, blocking WR and special teams ace role. He could have a much higher ceiling at his age that Hollins has likely maximized his ability.
Claypool to beat out MVS for that tall, speedy deep threat role. MVS’s age and drop history could be replaced with a young, former early round draft pick with loads of untapped potential.
Hamler makes the team in the role we hoped Isabella would have been able to excel in last year as super fast slot and return ace. I re-watched some film from Hamler in Denver and Penn State and man would it be amazing for him to get back to that potential for the Bills. He can play inside and outside with skill, speed and tenacity.
well I don't think there's a chance in hell those first 2 things happen. Hollins is a dog who was targeted for that role, you don't lose Davis/Sherf as your top blocking WR's and replace them with a complete unknown who hasn't sniffed game action. I think you can stash Shorter if he doesn't make the team, every team has multiple Shorters sitting around, none of us have a clue to what he even is really.
add in another big question mark in Claypool...I guess he could impress and actually make the team, but I don't think MVS is in any danger really.
Just seems like a couple of REALLY big leaps of faith.
Hamler is intriguing, I'll give him that, but could be another PS stash potentially.
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Der Jaeger
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I think that McDermott may carry 7 receivers. Samuel and Shakir will be the starters, with Coleman working in significantly, especially if Brady goes with more 11 personnel.
MVS will be the deep threat and may break into that top 3.
Hollins will be a special teamer and can block.
Shorter can contribute on special teams while he waits his turn.
That's the six receivers I think make the roster.
If Claypool figures it out, I think he starts out as a red zone threat and eventually works in.
Overall, it's going to be receiver by committee. I'm all for that approach.
MVS will be the deep threat and may break into that top 3.
Hollins will be a special teamer and can block.
Shorter can contribute on special teams while he waits his turn.
That's the six receivers I think make the roster.
If Claypool figures it out, I think he starts out as a red zone threat and eventually works in.
Overall, it's going to be receiver by committee. I'm all for that approach.
Too good for the Bills though.
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Too good for the Bills though.
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Didn’t he not come because he had sex with Poyers wife like right before their wedding and Poyer was like no thanks.
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I like this physical addition theyre adding to the receiving core. Makes me think theyre going to physically bully teams this year.
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I think it is more about having a more well rounded WR room.
Coleman gives them a physical Red Zone option they haven't had.
MVS gives them that deep threat that they didn't really have.
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Has it ever happened in the McBeane era though? Aside from the odd practice squad call up to cover injuries I'm going to say it hasn't. Also consider the returner is a DB. I'd suggest five is more likely than seven.
Carrying so many WRs makes absolutely no sense when you account for Kincaid/Knox both being on the field a lot together, account for the run game being a bigger component of Brady's playbook, etc.
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A little karmic payback to Philly for tricking us into signing Leino.
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Kiko had a few big time splash plays his rookie year if I remember correctly, so many believed he was going to be a very good LB for a long time. He turned out to be one of the dirtier players in the league. Pretty sure he came flying in like a piss missile leading with his helmet against Allen when he played for MIA. He's a trash ass/ dirty ass player in my book.
McCoy turned out to be a gem on and off the field (from what we saw, anyways), so yeah- definitely one of the better trades!
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Maybe. Depends on who the DBs are. Also, I wouldn't count on McDermott and Beane doing the same thing. I can't imagine them cutting Shorter after going to great lengths to keep him last year. They probably see something in him.
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If Claypool fully commits to being effective on special teams and brings more of the ability as a receiver that he showed early on in his career, I could see him knocking Shorter off the roster as the 6th WR. Feels like the other 5 of Samuel, Shakir, Coleman, MVS, and Hollins are pretty set
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They only kept 5 WRs last season (Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Harty, & Sherfield).
Claypool, Shorter, Shavers, Hamler, Isabella, and everyone else have their work cut out for them.
I've been making the same point about Shorter all offseason. I think you have five locks with him being heavy favourite for the sixth spot if they carry that many. I'm almost certain they won't carry seven for reasons I've already posted.
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Gotta keep at least 1 or 2 of them on the Practice Squad in case the Giants need a WR later on.
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I think some of the things you’re describing aren’t even competitions, given the guaranteed money at play. Absent atrocious camps, I see Hollins and MVS as locks to make the team. The competitions are:
-Shorter vs Shavers for a special teams receiver role
-Claypool, Isabella, and other players at different positions for the pack couple of spots on the team
Did they “go to great lengths” to keep him? Didn’t they just throw him on IR?
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