GDT: Training Camp discussion - Rifai and Murray on waivers -- Steeves clears

[ACC1224]

It wasn't home/away specific, it was just 1 game Matthews, next game Marner.

I believe that's correct, alternate games.

 

[DarkKnight]

Dont all players playing with Mathews benefit? Domi sure did.......did he not?

Im not sure if this was a dig on Marner. He produced also with Taveres didnt he?

Does Knies benefit from playing with Mathews?

Playing with the top goal score in the league is a net positive for a playmaker. What a revelation. Also true, every line Marner goes to produces, it’s a symbiotic relationship.

As an aside, I’m not sold on Nylander and Domi as a duo, but will keep an open mind. Mom the surface I see “hemmed in our end” a lot.

 

[rumman]

You got to be joking…….did he really say that


Burgers and hotdogs …the Kessel training regime

34 did……..

 

[SprDaVE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836760579387580743

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836758859597201791

 

[SprDaVE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836762709636846033

 

[ACC1224]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836762709636846033

Thanks for posting these.

Great seeing the team back on the ice.

 

[SprDaVE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836767664921776479

 

[SprDaVE]

Sounds like it'll be Pacioretty - Nylander - Domi to start off. Top 3 lines are more or less set for training camp.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836767637637857743

 

[SprDaVE]

Might be nothing but man... if he's already injured...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836767722954260553

 

[dangomon]

Might be nothing but man... if he's already injured...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836767722954260553

HE'S BACK!

 

[leafsfan5]

Patches - Nylander - Domi sounds like a horrendous 2nd line

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836769601008676909

But if the goal is for Cowan to flush the junior out of his game, what benefit is there in returning him to junior hockey this season?

Why not give him time to develop, bet on his upside and begin his progression toward a lengthy NHL career instead of bringing back Connor Dewar-types? Dewar will not begin training camp after offseason shoulder season.

Nick Robertson scored 14 goals last season in 56 games. The determined left winger will need to show he can round out his game and be trusted this season, should he earn a spot out of camp.

Still, his best quality is his shot and scoring ability. That’s what the Leafs like about him. So why add Max Pacioretty to ostensibly do what Robertson already does? Pacioretty scored just four goals in 47 games last season and is coming off two recent Achilles injuries.

Timothy Liljegren continued to develop and showed game-breaking flashes last season. He is Toronto’s youngest defenceman at 25 yet it still seems like the role of a top four right-shot defenceman he deserves is still up for debate internally.

Why was the right side of the blue line bolstered with Jani Hakanpaa, whose recent knee injury will see him start training camp in a development group? Yes, Liljegren and Hakanpaa are completely different players with completely different styles. Yet it still seems like Liljegren is constantly having to prove himself within an organization that has sunk endless time and resources into his development.

 

[ACC1224]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836769601008676909

They're 30 minutes into the 1st practice.

 

[IPS]

So with Willy at center is JT getting moved to wing or what?

 

[Fogelhund]

So with Willy at center is JT getting moved to wing or what?

Just above you was posted..

Nick Robertson is starting Leafs camp on a line with John Tavares and Bobby McMann.

Patches - Nylander - Domi sounds like a horrendous 2nd line

Why?

 

[Fogelhund]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836767664921776479

A couple of observations.

Hakanpaa in Group 3... basically the group that has no chance of making the Leafs. He's the only one on there, which means??? Maybe he's not ready yet, or still hurt or.....

Patches #67 Interesting choice, though it is his normal number.

 

[Apex Predator]

A couple of observations.

Hakanpaa in Group 3... basically the group that has no chance of making the Leafs. He's the only one on there, which means??? Maybe he's not ready yet, or still hurt or.....

Patches #67 Interesting choice, though it is his normal number.

Beurbue taled about this yesterday during the media. He willl start in group 3 to see where he’s at with his health. Then will he moved to group 2 or 1.

 

[Fogelhund]

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[leafsfan5]

Just above you was posted..

Nick Robertson is starting Leafs camp on a line with John Tavares and Bobby McMann.


Why?

there is no defensive ability whatsoever on that line, they will likely be hemmed in their own zone a lot

When we ran Bertuzzi - Domi - Nylander last year the process wasn't pretty and they eventually scrapped the line. I don't see much changing with Berutzzi being subbed for an inferior player + the center switch

 

[Warden of the North]

f*** sake. Minten ankle sprain, Danford concussion.

 

[Fogelhund]

there is no defensive ability whatsoever on that line, they will likely be hemmed in their own zone a lot

When we ran Bertuzzi - Domi - Nylander last year the process wasn't pretty and they eventually scrapped the line. I don't see much changing with Berutzzi being subbed for an inferior player + the center switch

Fair comments.

The best line was Bert Matthews Domi.... I would have thought we could have started with that.

 

[SprDaVE]

A couple of observations.

Hakanpaa in Group 3... basically the group that has no chance of making the Leafs. He's the only one on there, which means??? Maybe he's not ready yet, or still hurt or.....

Patches #67 Interesting choice, though it is his normal number.

Berube's first piece of information at yesterdays presser was that there would be 3 groups. Group C is the development group and Hakanpaa would be in that group to rehab and continue progressing.

 

[SprDaVE]

there is no defensive ability whatsoever on that line, they will likely be hemmed in their own zone a lot

When we ran Bertuzzi - Domi - Nylander last year the process wasn't pretty and they eventually scrapped the line. I don't see much changing with Berutzzi being subbed for an inferior player + the center switch

I misread that it was about JT/McMann.

I think the idea is that they will handle puck possession to high a level and outbalance the need to defend with having the puck. I think Pacioretty was always very good 2-way but obviously injuries/regression likely makes him a big question mark.

This is training camp though so there will be some changes through the start and over the season. People take these initial lines way too seriously and set in stone. It will likely change a lot.

 

[Fogelhund]

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[weems]

there is no defensive ability whatsoever on that line, they will likely be hemmed in their own zone a lot

When we ran Bertuzzi - Domi - Nylander last year the process wasn't pretty and they eventually scrapped the line. I don't see much changing with Berutzzi being subbed for an inferior player + the center switch

Some of that defensive ability is going to have to come from Nylander.
The reality is that the center position demands alot more out of a player than wing. You have to now take faceoffs, sometimes in the defensive zone and are asked to take on a bigger responsibility defensively in your own zone.

Nylander can no doubt stick at the center position if all someone is basing it around is his offensive abilities. It will be how much he can show in the all around abilities of a Center department that will determine if the project works or not.

As of right now we know he's not a extremely strong defensive player when playing wing but Center is a totally different position and if he wants to make it work, he's going to need to up the intensity level and focus because the position demands it.