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justashadowof
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Your mind reading is really a window to another world of thought. "Blue chippers"?
No he isn’t. He’s very good, but calling him the best player in the league is a bit of a stretch.
He may be da only all round player left in league who can do it all .. blow by everyone with speed on another level .. shoot harder on fly than anyone else he competes with .. fight for loose pucks harder than anyone else he competes with .. win a faceoff .. score a goal when team needs it most .. block a shot when game on da line .. consummately team guy in every respect .. this is what leadership is all about .. i can't think of another guy playing today in his prime who is even remotely close .. maybe Syd da kid in his day thats it
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You really need to stop digging. This is far from the truth. Mack is a great player, but this is all sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops.
I question your hockey knowledge as much as I question your baseball knowledge. A team based victory has no bearing on an individual player
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Produces at a higher rate than he does in the regular season. Only once has he not been over a PPG in the playoffs and he was still a PPG.
You literally just described Auston Matthews to a tee.
Apparently, it was Jarnkrok that put them in this situation. They knew they couldn't afford him but couldn't resist a player of his calibre coming here for less than Engvall for 4 years.
He's the reason, not Malgin.
When Matty learns to blow by Bergeron then we can start to have a conversation .. when Berge takes your lunch well what can i say .. there is not even a remote chance Matty keeps up to MAC in any puck race in any position on da ice .. even with a lead MAC still wins every race every time .. you should look at their training camp speed times .. dude Willy Rielly Kerfoot are far far faster than Matty
There's more to hockey than straight line speed. We're not talking about speed skating. We're talking about who's better at hockey. The answer is easily Matthews. No contest.
You are going way way out there on a limb my friend .. you line up Matty v MAC at centre ice faceoff .. drop a puck and put 2 Vasi's in each net .. and it is an almost certainty that MAC scores 1st .. Matty likely does not even get a shot on net .. he won't be able to skate away .. he can't over power MAC .. he may be able to deke him once here and there but would be caught in a stride or two .. it is not even a fair fight .. McJesus would score a couple times in a 10 game match but even he doesn't have da fight in him
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What exactly was his excuse for all the years before 2022?
If you lined up Matthews vs. Mackinnon at center ice 1v1, Matthews would unquestionably be the better bet to score first. Matthews would win the faceoff with his elite faceoff abilities, and prevent Mackinnon from getting the puck with his elite puck protection abilities, before he sniped it top corner with the best shot on the world. And if Mackinnon ever did end up with the puck, Matthews would crush him into the boards with his elite physicality or just steal the puck with his elite takeaway ability.
Though I'm not sure why we're talking about some weird 1v1 in the first place. Fact is, in the game of hockey, Matthews is unquestionably the better player. Literally the only thing that Mackinnon has on him is speed, and there's a heck of a lot more to hockey than that.
I should not get into hockey skill matters with people who have never laced em up at elite level .. but you did give me a great LOL with your description .. fact is there would not be a damn thing Matty could do except watch MAC skate with puck .. you can't use any of his skills when you can't get a puck .. it would literally be a complete skate around and shot and then race for a puck and then another shot and then another race for a puck and another shot .. and it does happen a lot in tournaments .. in fact at beanpot i was on bench when Mitch and Matty had a go after 5 sets of OT with a Toronto team and Boston Jr Bruins (which was a US all star team) .. fact was Mitch never even touched da puck once .. it took Matty 3 shots to finally score and win game for Boston .. speed wise no comparison between Matty and Mitch and guess what Mitch did not get a puck .. speed and will/strength decide these type of battles .. it is why for many many many years when I was growing up these skilled US teams never won a damn thing ever even though they looked brilliant in da warmup .. but over time many Canadians have moved down south to build USA hockey and their kids have brought more of warrior culture to many USA programs
I don’t think there’s anything incorrect with saying Matthews isn’t as explosive as Mack. Mack has another gear and it’s part of a package that is proven to work in the playoffs. I sure hope Matty can become more explosive and/or improve all of his tools to at least be as effective in the playoffs as he is in the regular season.
Something about his game hasn’t translated as well as Mack yet (could be legitimate injuries, fatigue, usage, team strategy, puck luck, whatever), but if/when he can elevate his game in the playoffs we’ll be making deep runs just like Colorado.
Something about his game hasn’t translated as well as Mack yet (could be legitimate injuries, fatigue, usage, team strategy, puck luck, whatever), but if/when he can elevate his game in the playoffs we’ll be making deep runs just like Colorado.
Not sure what any of these made-up stories have to do with anything.
The only one who wouldn't be able to take the puck from the other is Mackinnon. There's only so much speed can do against all of the other things Matthews brings to the table.
You put way, way, way too much emphasis on straight line speed. You've done it to dismiss Marner in the past, and you're doing it now to dismiss Matthews.
There is way more to hockey than that. Matthews is a better hockey player than Mackinnon, and it's really not all that close.
Mack is older than AM and failed more time than AM in their careers. In short, Mack knows what it takes to win the Cup. Not just having that extra gear himself but making sure the rest of the team got that extra gear too.
I know AM and the boys have not advance past the first round but Mack and Avs only made past the 2nd round once and they won the Cup.
In a way, first round exit and 2nd round exit cannot be consider deep playoffs runs.
Point I am trying to say is that Mack and the Avs core knows what’s need to be done to get it done, they know that it is not just about peaking in the playoffs and it starts with off season fitness training, proper diet…..
AM and the other guys might be doing the exact same thing as Mack and his guys this past off season but until AM and the Leafs win a Cup, nobody even themselves can say, they know what’s needed to win bc they have not won.
I know AM and the boys have not advance past the first round but Mack and Avs only made past the 2nd round once and they won the Cup.
In a way, first round exit and 2nd round exit cannot be consider deep playoffs runs.
Point I am trying to say is that Mack and the Avs core knows what’s need to be done to get it done, they know that it is not just about peaking in the playoffs and it starts with off season fitness training, proper diet…..
AM and the other guys might be doing the exact same thing as Mack and his guys this past off season but until AM and the Leafs win a Cup, nobody even themselves can say, they know what’s needed to win bc they have not won.
It is how the successful world works. When Dubas wins something, then and only then can he set a standard. 55 yrs and counting. When you learn something about professional bargaining, you will see the errors of your way.
Thank goodness we have the Athletic to keep the world clear.
When we need a goaltender in Feb, the need for that $500,000 will be important. That is how you manage and bargain. Anyone can spend to the max.
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You think they will be trying to maximize LTIR in February?
notDatsyuk
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The LTIR system is very strange/complicated. It's actually more beneficial for the team for the purposes of accumulating capspace for the future tdl (should they want to make some moves) for them to be as close to the cap as possible.
Because the closer to the cap a team is before using the LTIR, the more relief they’ll get.
So having that contract be this higher/and specific of a number actually benefits the team more for the purposes of mid season moves than it would if it were a few hundred thousand dollars less now
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