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A lot of you guys are being hard on Malgin

The guy went away and improved himself and has desered a place on this team with his preseason performance

Simple as that

Robertson will get his chance, he's one hell of a talent but it won't hurt him to light up the AHL while he waits
In fact that may keep his confidence flowing
 
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zeke said:
No doubt.

And if we were running anything more than the league minimum 20 man roster both would be on the team now, and Robertson would be in the starting lineup with Malgin in the press box.

As it is, Malgin will have to produce immediately if he wants to stay up ahead of Robertson. If he fizzles he'll be on waivers pronto and probably clear.

Also, Robertson is one injury away from the team and that might come as soon as game 2 of Tavares can't go.

Also, the Leafs absolutely have to trade somebody by the end of the month - Kerfoot, Engvall, or Holl most likely - to get under the cap when Lilly comes back.
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They might be able to get by without trading anyone if someone with a high enough cap hit is always injured. Though I’d prefer to make a trade once some other team is going through injuries and needs a body.
 
I think it's important to note that a lot of Robertson's production in pre-season came without playing with any top end guys in our line up.

Malgin played almost entirely with Nylander

Salary cap sucks but I would have still chosen Robertson over Malgin at the end of the day, I think his best and upside is more than what Malgin can give us.
 
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stickty111 said:
Okay and what does that have to do with anything? Should teams never give chances to players who will be out of the league soon? I don't think you realize how things work.
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Yup. He's earned his shot for now.

Malgin - even with his 2 seasons overseas - hasn't played in the AHL since 2017. He had 192 games in the league at age 23.

He's an NHL calibre player, whether it be here or elsewhere. Doesn't hurt to see if he can play for 5-10 games. Robertson will be up as an emergency recall in Game 2.
 
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Give Malgin soft minutes and move him to someone that runs into injuries for a mid-round pick by Christmas. Everyone we're competing against in the East blew their picks and prospects the last two deadlines. We can get a high end rental without killing our pool while they can't.
 
WTFMAN99 said:
I think it's important to note that a lot of Robertson's production in pre-season came without playing with any top end guys in our line up.

Malgin played almost entirely with Nylander

Salary cap sucks but I would have still chosen Robertson over Malgin at the end of the day, I think his best and upside is more than what Malgin can give us.
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Even when they were playing together, though, they both looked good.

Robby played with Malgin a ton this preseason - i'm sure he understands why they don't want to toss Malgin on waivers quite yet.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
I think it's important to note that a lot of Robertson's production in pre-season came without playing with any top end guys in our line up.

Malgin played almost entirely with Nylander

Salary cap sucks but I would have still chosen Robertson over Malgin at the end of the day, I think his best and upside is more than what Malgin can give us.
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Of his 5 games played, he played one game on the third line and one game on the 4th.

He played 3 alongside Nylander.

But why let a player go onto waivers when you can keep both and play both?
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
I think it's important to note that a lot of Robertson's production in pre-season came without playing with any top end guys in our line up.

Malgin played almost entirely with Nylander
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I don't think this is true. They both seemed to get around equal time with the bigger names. Robertson's big 3 assist game when everyone declared he made the team was with Nylander and Kerfoot while Malgin was playing lower in the lineup.
 
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Magic Man said:
I think next to guys like Jarnkrok and Kerfoot on line #3 he could score 20 goals. That's better than another year in the AHL. If he can't get off the 4th line a demotion would make sense.

Kubel has to be the first option to hit the wire from the top-12 meaning for Robertson to get a spot it was Kubel being protected from waivers that prevented it.

I think this is a better team.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Engvall - Kerfoot - Jarnkrok
ZAR - Kampf - Malgin

than this one.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Nylander - Tavares - Malgin
Engvall - Kerfoot - Jarnkrok
ZAR - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

I also think if at worst Aube-Kubel was claimed, Adam Gaudette or Wayne Simmonds are still fine options at forward #13 and they have cleared, so they can be interchanged. I'm usually pro physicality. But, I just think Robertson's being blocked similar to how Sandin/Liljegren were shielded in last years playoffs. Just play the kids, give them a role, they're good enough.
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I don’t think that’s out of the realm of possibility either.
 
leafan11 said:
As much as I dislike Justin Bourne he was bang on with Malgin only being on this team because of Dubas Ego due to being called out on Marchment trade.
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leafan11 said:
Malgin will be out of the league by mid season.
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Seems to suggest the Marchment trade is bad because he had a half-season breakout at age 26.
Simultaneously writes off 25 year old who looks great.

I hope you recognize the irony in this.
 
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justashadowof said:
I'm happy to see Mete clear. He's depth they'll need at some point in the season. Same thing with Gaudette.
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And JoeyA too maybe, and then 3-4 other guys making a push.
Before considering another wave coming at the end of the year.
Good depth of assets is only going to help improve the team in time.
 
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zeke said:
Even when they were playing together, though, they both looked good.

Robby played with Malgin a ton this preseason - i'm sure he understands why they don't want to toss Malgin on waivers quite yet.
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Roberton's interview last year about being in the AHL suggested he wasn't satisfied being there. He came in and did everything to get a spot...I don't think he cares about Malgin and would rather be on the roster.

TheDoldrums said:
I don't think this is true. They both seemed to get around equal time with the bigger names. Robertson's big 3 assist game when everyone declared he made the team was with Nylander and Kerfoot while Malgin was playing lower in the lineup.
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I only ever remember seeing Malgin with Nylander outside of G1 against Detroit when it was Robertson-Holmberg-Malgin.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
Roberton's interview last year about being in the AHL suggested he wasn't satisfied being there. He came in and did everything to get a spot...I don't think he cares about Malgin and would rather be on the roster.
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I'm sure he understands how the NHL works, and there's a difference between not being good enough to make the team and facing a full year in the AHL, and being good enough to make the team, being first callup, and likely looking at a majority of the year in the NHL. There were 110 games from our forwards beyond the main 12 last year. He'll get his games.

Regardless, team above player.
 
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Dekes For Days said:
I'm sure he understands how the NHL works, and there's a difference between not being good enough to make the team and facing a full year in the AHL, and being good enough to make the team, being first callup, and likely looking at a majority of the year in the NHL. There were 110 games from our forwards beyond the main 12 last year. He'll get his games.

Regardless, team above player.
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We don't necessarily know if the team is going above the player in this case.

Also, when you're at that age, you're thinking of you. The difference between being in the AHL and the NHL is like 700k for him.
 
Last season I don't believe we iced our full healthy roster until game 1 of the playoffs. Between Murray, Muzzin, and any randomness that occurs, I wouldn't be surprised if we lost multiple players game 1 against the Habs when they try and goon it up.

If not it will be soon, first 5 games someone will get hurt. This is going to be how we do things all year. Sucks to count on guys being hurt but very reliable. I also think this year if we see someone with big money go out near the TDL we're going to use that space and add a massive piece.
 
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