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GbgRanger said:
If Panarin gets dealt he is gonna get a cup Gaborik style. Book it
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I'm not saying we should trade Panarin, but does that matter? If the organization doesn't think it's going to work out any longer here, then what difference does it make if we're not getting the cup anyway. I don't have an issue with seeing players we trade get a cup.
 
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GENESISPuck94 said:
Funny, because the entire board is on the verge of standing outside MSG with pitchforks and rotten tomatoes to demand Lafreniere get traded after a couple preseason games. So maybe we should all wait on that front too.
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No, most aren't demanding he be traded. Most are demanding he start playing hockey.
 
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duhmetreE said:
I think Cuylle makes the team. Pitlick and Harpur put on waivers. Othmann sent down, 1st call up.

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Chytil Laffy
Cuylle Trocheck Wheeler
Vesey Bonino Goodrow
Brodz

Lindgren Fox
KAM Trouba
Gus Schneider
Jones
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I dont think Bonino is gonna make the every day roster but thats just me. Brodz has impressed the staff and i think the 4th line has him on it now.
 
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I think it would be a poor choice to lose either Brodzinski or Bonino on waivers. Looking at Hartford's depth, center isn't a position for which the organization is very deep at the moment.

What it comes down to is whether they think they can sneak down someone like Pitlick right now or if they choose to give Cuylle and Othmann a bit more time in the AHL together.
 
NYR Viper said:
I think it would be a poor choice to lose either Brodzinski or Bonino on waivers. Looking at Hartford's depth, center isn't a position for which the organization is very deep at the moment.

What it comes down to is whether they think they can sneak down someone like Pitlick right now or if they choose to give Cuylle and Othmann a bit more time in the AHL together.
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We won't lose Brodzinski to waivers. Much better players went untouched on the waiver wire.
 
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NYR Viper said:
I think it would be a poor choice to lose either Brodzinski or Bonino on waivers. Looking at Hartford's depth, center isn't a position for which the organization is very deep at the moment.

What it comes down to is whether they think they can sneak down someone like Pitlick right now or if they choose to give Cuylle and Othmann a bit more time in the AHL together.
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IMO it sends the wrong message.

Cuylle has been our best forward. He needs to be rewarded. Reward good habits. If they want to instill that culture, it's counter intuitive to send him down.
 
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duhmetreE said:
IMO it sends the wrong message.

Cuylle has been our best forward. He needs to be rewarded. Reward good habits. If they want to instill that culture, it's counter intuitive to send him down.
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I don't disagree about Cuylle. He's also been given good chances with good players.

Let's just play worst case scenario though, the team waives Brodzinski and he is claimed by someone. Who is the first center call-up for the team? Henriksson? Leschyshyn? Nash? Those aren't good options.

I'll say this, if given the choice between waiving Brodzinski or waiving Pitlick, it's Pitlick.
 
NYR Viper said:
I don't disagree about Cuylle. He's also been given good chances with good players.

Let's just play worst case scenario though, the team waives Brodzinski and he is claimed by someone. Who is the first center call-up for the team? Henriksson? Leschyshyn? Nash? Those aren't good options.

I'll say this, if given the choice between waiving Brodzinski or waiving Pitlick, it's Pitlick.
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They don't need to call up a center. They just move Goodrow to center in that situation and call up whatever forward they want.
 
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Ruggs225 said:
The first month or two is going to be rocky. Players have to learn an actual system. Just be aware. The team that starts the season will not look like what we will be around trade deadline.
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I don’t think it’s learning the system as much as I said earlier with guys like Mika and Panarin it’s elevating their game to a consistent level at even strength. We dog it way too much. Laf Kreider Mike bread really all do. And Laviolette is going to have to break those habits to move this group forward. Too many mins for guys that float a lot out there as good as they are.
 
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NYR Viper said:
Goodrow is not a good center. He CAN play center. But that's not a good option IMO.
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Goodrow at 4C and either Cuylle or Othmann coming up to play wing is a far better option than Goodrow at wing and some career minor leaguer/non prospect coming up to play 4C.
 
People complain the team doesn't shoot enough. Brodzinski has 12 shots on goal through 4 games played. That's good for 3rd in the entire NHL in preseason. Brodzinski has a sneaky good shot and he knows how to put himself in position to use it. for whatever reason the points don't come at the NHL level like they do at the AHL but if you want someone who can consistently move the puck up the ice and get shots on net to create chances he is good option.

This comes back to the a discussion many have been having, Brodzinski skates well, is defensively responsible, isn't shy about physical contact, plays center and consistently gets pucks to the net. for a 4C that is exactly what you want. That and he makes less than the league minimum this year

SA16 said:
Goodrow at 4C and either Cuylle or Othmann coming up to play wing is a far better option than Goodrow at wing and some career minor leaguer/non prospect coming up to play 4C.
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Goodrow at center is bad news for any set of wingers. He doesn't skate well enough and he doesn't distribute or carry the puck up the ice effectively. Brodzinski is a better center than Goodrow is.
 
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GENESISPuck94 said:
Funny, because the entire board is on the verge of standing outside MSG with pitchforks and rotten tomatoes to demand Lafreniere get traded after a couple preseason games. So maybe we should all wait on that front too.
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This has more to do with how the devils series went than anything. They’re getting a reputation for being a core that lacks effort so even in preseason where vets don’t really do much especially early in preseason, it is pissing people off right or wrong. But getting on the 21 year old home grown guy is something I haven’t seen before. We usually go for a third pair vet lumbering dman to attack
 
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I'm expecting a slow start leading to an eventual playoff caliber team. Once the new system is bought into we have the talent to make a run. I don't see Lav getting outcoached by Lindy Ruff like Gallant did.
 
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Unbelievable, really.

I know, I know - but It took all of 3 preseason games to switch Laf back to the left.

Glad Kakko is getting a well deserved look at the top. Hopefully he sticks. That line has a good balance.

Also like Kreider with Trocheck. This has been beaten to death here. Othmann earned the chance that Laf just lost, Imho


Panarin – Zib – Kakko
Kreider – Trocheck – Othmann
Laf – Chytil – Wheeler
Goodrow - Bonino – Pitlick/Vesey

Lindgren – Fox
Miller – Trouba
Gustafsson – Schneider
Harpur

If Othmann makes the club.
 
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Leonardo87 said:
Laf back to 3LW, and rightfully so...

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Exactly. 3 LW is where he belongs and I know many wanted to try him at RW but was pretty much wasted time. He is gonna have to sink or swim at 3LW and fill in for Panarin and Kreider top 6 if either of them are injured. Not only best for him but also best for team. He sucks and is lost at RW.
Only downside of that is that it might have been nice to see Cuylle given the opportunity at 3LW
 
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Anyone know what is wrong with Chytil? Is it arm/shoulder? or head related?
It figures the one young forward who seems to be really exciting to watch seems to be made of tissue paper.
 
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bl02 said:
Anyone know what is wrong with Chytil? Is it arm/shoulder? or head related?
It figures the one young forward who seems to be really exciting to watch seems to be made of tissue paper.
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They said upper body. Keeping it generic
 
Im all for starting Othy with the Pack, but if he makes it hard on the staff and continues to impress, push, execute and deliver results than you keep him up. He's noticeable every shift.

Theres a spot open on the right and they need some skill and pace up there. If Laffy isnt going to seize the moment and Othmann does lets see if he can sustain it.

This was never a problem with Kakko or Lafreniere because it was a foregone conclusion they would be in the lineup. Neither of them really earned it and likely wouldve benefited from time in the minors or back in europe their first season.

Now we have a kid who's set to start in the AHL but is making the decision difficult. Ironic and also very Ranger-like.
 
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