Value of: Trading Draisaitl

[The Nuge]

**** driving his own line, why would you mess with something thats clearly working? You "driving his own line" guys need to put that to bed.

Disagree. It’s turned into the fastest way of telling if someone actually watches the games or is just making things up

Draisaitl, Bouchard for Werenski + Dubois work for Columbus?

take out Bouchard and add say Foudy or Texier, and a 1st, and the conversation maybe doesn’t end immediately. Dubois and Werenski combined couldn’t outscore Drai last season

 

[CornKicker]

id trade drai for Mackinnon and makar

 

[Mac Attack]

id trade drai for Mackinnon and makar

Of course you would. Congratulations. I challenge you to find even one Colorado fan that thinks that isn't laughable. Mackinnon is better than Draisaitl. Adding Makar is just laughable.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Draisaitl, Bouchard for Werenski + Dubois work for Columbus?

I’m sure it would, but Holland doesn’t make that trade if you’re extracting his teeth one at a time while lighting his toes on fire.

 

[Todd Parchment]

Draisaitl has been better than McDavid this season. He was taken off his own line early in October to help get McDavid going.

The "drive his own line" argument is nonsensical.

pasta, nose, bergy.

Who’s the real player and who’s the beneficiary?

There’s a top line for a reason. Drai is a stunning player and the carried by McDavid narrative needs to die.

Don’t think there’s a realistic trade to be made for Drai at all unless a team with another top 10 player wants to gut themselves.

 

[Seachd]

There's no hate, I just said McDavid is the best player in the world. I just don't think Drai would be as good if he wasn't tailing the best player in the league.

“Tailing”.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Of course you would. Congratulations. I challenge you to find even one Colorado fan that thinks that isn't laughable. Mackinnon is better than Draisaitl. Adding Makar is just laughable.

No, he isn't. Last season to now Dria has 130 poinrs and Mackinnon has 116 points. Wanna make the Mcdavid comment go take a look at what Mackinnon was producing before he got Rantanen on his line.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Did the Pens ship out Malkin cause they had Crosby?

You don't dump a franchise piece because you have a better player too unless it's a goalie.

 

[Jumptheshark]

You lost me at the blue line. Nurse and klefbom are playing good and they have Bouchard and broberg in the pipeline

 

[780il]

Draisaitl, Bouchard for Werenski + Dubois work for Columbus?

Take out Bouchard and we still don't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Funny that you had to include our best prospect like Columbus is doing us a favour.

 

[GOilers88]

Disagree. It’s turned into the fastest way of telling if someone actually watches the games or is just making things up




take out Bouchard and add say Foudy or Texier, and a 1st, and the conversation maybe doesn’t end immediately. Dubois and Werenski combined couldn’t outscore Drai last season

Sorry, but that's a load of crap.

 

[Mac Attack]

No, he isn't. Last season to now Dria has 130 poinrs and Mackinnon has 116 points. Wanna make the Mcdavid comment go take a look at what Mackinnon was producing before he got Rantanen on his line.

I didn't make the Mcdavid comment. I just said Mackinnon is better. But hey if you want to stand on a limb all by yourself in the hockey world based on a single cherry picked stat with your perfect timeline on it you do you man. Wait never mind. This is a new guy thinking Drai is better. I guess the delusion is spreading.

 

[Mac Attack]

I didn't make the Mcdavid comment. I just said Mackinnon is better. But hey if you want to stand on a limb all by yourself in the hockey world based on a single cherry picked stat with your perfect timeline on it you do you man. Wait never mind. This is a new guy thinking Drai is better. I guess the delusion is spreading. It must be a miracle to have the two best players on the planet and not come close making playoffs last year lol.

 

[Pointteen]

I didn't make the Mcdavid comment. I just said Mackinnon is better. But hey if you want to stand on a limb all by yourself in the hockey world based on a single cherry picked stat with your perfect timeline on it you do you man. Wait never mind. This is a new guy thinking Drai is better. I guess the delusion is spreading.

Username checks out, what does MacKinnon do on the ice that you think Draisaitl doesn't?

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

I think a deal starting with RNH for Ristolainen with adds on both sides would be something to look at.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think a deal starting with RNH for Ristolainen with adds on both sides would be something to look at.

It wouldn’t at all. Not from our perspective anyway. The emergence of Bear and to a lesser degree Persson has all but eliminated our need to deal for a RHD, and we’ve got Bouchard coming up as well. Conversely losing RNH blows a hole in our lineup the size of Hudson Bay with absolutely nothing to replace him internally.

About the only way we’d even think about doing something like that is RNH+Russell for a slightly lesser 2C and another 2nd line forward.

 

[ElLeetch]

I think the best bet for the oilers would probably just to wait out a 3 year span of not being very good due to bad contracts.

I don't see McDavid happy to go along with that.

 

[TheUltimateOiler]

Of course you would. Congratulations. I challenge you to find even one Colorado fan that thinks that isn't laughable. Mackinnon is better than Draisaitl. Adding Makar is just laughable.

Is he though?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I don't see McDavid happy to go along with that.

I think McDavid will be fine as long as we make steps in the right direction. Most projections have us as a playoff bubble team right now, and that’s with zero secondary scoring and a very young defence. Our cap situation is honestly not that bad, we have a lot of money coming off the books this summer. Next offseason we’ll be able to bring in another 2nd line forward and a real 3C, and might be able to trade a guy like Larsson for more help up front.

 

[TFHockey]

It wouldn’t at all. Not from our perspective anyway. The emergence of Bear and to a lesser degree Persson has all but eliminated our need to deal for a RHD, and we’ve got Bouchard coming up as well. Conversely losing RNH blows a hole in our lineup the size of Hudson Bay with absolutely nothing to replace him internally.

About the only way we’d even think about doing something like that is RNH+Russell for a slightly lesser 2C and another 2nd line forward.

That is kind of how I see it. If the Oilers deal RNH they'd want a lesser 2C back and a 2nd line forward. It is diluting talent again, but our forward depth is so thin it might be the right move.

 

[Aceboogie]

Some deals I could live it:
Drasaitl + JP for Mackinnon + Makar
Draisaitl for Dahlin + Mittelstadt
Draisaitl for Hughes + Petersson
Draisaitl for Jones + Forsberg

 

[Gecklund]

Some deals I could live it:
Drasaitl + JP for Mackinnon + Makar
Draisaitl for Dahlin + Mittelstadt
Draisaitl for Hughes + Petersson
Draisaitl for Jones + Forsberg

I don’t think a single other team does this. It’s just not realistic to see a star for star trade like this.

 

[Aceboogie]

I don’t think a single other team does this. It’s just not realistic to see a star for star trade like this.

It would have to be an overpay. But the reason is that Draisaitl is just scratching the surface of his potential. This is already a top 5 forward in the NHL with Thorton like potential. If you are trading someone with that high of potential and current success already, it has to be an overpay

 

[ChaoticOrange]

It would have to be an overpay. But the reason is that Draisaitl is just scratching the surface of his potential. This is already a top 5 forward in the NHL with Thorton like potential. If you are trading someone with that high of potential and current success already, it has to be an overpay

I think we’ll see Draisaitl win an Art Ross, a Conn Smythe, and a Selke in his career. I just hope they’re with Edmonton.

 

[Gecklund]

It would have to be an overpay. But the reason is that Draisaitl is just scratching the surface of his potential. This is already a top 5 forward in the NHL with Thorton like potential. If you are trading someone with that high of potential and current success already, it has to be an overpay

And I understand that. I’m not commenting on the value. Just that it guts every team too much. You are asking for a young 1D OR 1C and a top prospect on top of that (except maybe the CBJ trade cause I can’t think of anyone named Forsberg on that team but maybe I’m missing someone huge). I’m not saying you aren’t justified in asking. I’m saying it’s unrealistic to ask a team to give up that for ANYONE in the league. Especially in a cap era and a majority of these guys being on ELCs. It’s way more realistic for Drai to retire tomorrow than it is for him to be moved.