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Is it? The playoffs would disagree with you there. The superior skating ability and shot threat enable 88 to thrive in the post-season even as it gets tighter.It's pretty obvious that he's not.
If Florida loses Barkov and Tkachuk, they lose. Heck, if they just lose Bobrovsky, they lose.
PlayoffsIs it? The playoffs would disagree with you there. The superior skating ability and shot threat enable 88 to thrive in the post-season even as it gets tighter.
Marner not so much, say what you will, and I've heard all the arguments before, the speed and structure of the playoffs do not lend themselves well to his game. He is still an outstanding player, but to proclaim him as obviously better than Nylander is something I take umbridge with.
When the games have mattered the most, it has consistently been Willy who has played well; be it statwise or eye-test wise.
Mitch Marner PlayoffsIs it? The playoffs would disagree with you there. The superior skating ability and shot threat enable 88 to thrive in the post-season even as it gets tighter.
Marner not so much, say what you will, and I've heard all the arguments before, the speed and structure of the playoffs do not lend themselves well to his game. He is still an outstanding player, but to proclaim him as obviously better than Nylander is something I take umbridge with.
When the games have mattered the most, it has consistently been Willy who has played well; be it statwise or eye-test wise.
You originally said "players' so I went with that, but I agree they likely wouldn't move JT even if it was possible.It really was just Marner, they wouldn’t have moved JT. I think it’s irrelevant. They chose to keep Marner. Marner also didn’t say he wouldn’t waive.
Yes, it is obvious. Marner has been the better player in both the regular season and playoffs; both statwise and eye-test wise.Is it? The playoffs would disagree with you there. The superior skating ability and shot threat enable 88 to thrive in the post-season even as it gets tighter. Marner not so much, say what you will, and I've heard all the arguments before, the speed and structure of the playoffs do not lend themselves well to his game. He is still an outstanding player, but to proclaim him as obviously better than Nylander is something I take umbridge with. When the games have mattered the most, it has consistently been Willy who has played well; be it statwise or eye-test wise.
Part of the issue is that we stack the top unit, but still don't play it the full 2 minutes. You either have to stack both players and time, or split both players and time.I've always been a stack one PP guy, give your best players the full 2 minutes.
This is the quote, that everything comes from.You originally said "players' so I went with that, but I agree they likely wouldn't move JT even if it was possible.
According to everything I've heard, Marner's agent very clearly said he wouldn't waive, so they didn't have a choice.
We'll have a better idea of their intent for both after this season.
Yes, it is obvious. Marner has been the better player in both the regular season and playoffs; both statwise and eye-
He has been a ghost in games 5-7. This is well documented.Yes, it is obvious. Marner has been the better player in both the regular season and playoffs; both statwise and eye-test wise.
Mitch Marner Playoffs
Games 1-4:
39 points in 36 games= 1.08 PPG
Games 5-7:
9 points in 21 games= 0.43 PPG
William Nylander Playoffs
Games 1-4:
26 points in 33 games= 0.79 PPG
Games 5-7:
17 points in 21 games= 0.81 PPG
As the series goes along and the games get more important, Marner falls off heavily while Nylander remains consistent.
It really isn't close
best scenario for everyone involved is for 16 to play out his contract and negotiate in the off season, after all he doesn't want to play anywhere else, right?This is the quote, that everything comes from.
“The focus for Marner is on honoring the remaining year of his contract and seeing where things go from there,” LeBrun writes.
Read into that what you might.
No, he hasn't. Some people have just worked to cut and paste together a really misleading picture without actually understanding it.He has been a ghost in games 5-7. This is well documented.
Yes, he has, as anyone with access to stats can tell. Look at the data on his shot selection in the playoffs, simply becomes more of a peripheral player, which matches the eye test. And no, Game 1 is not the same as Game 7. There's a reason there's an aura around players such as Justin Williams and Patrick Kane. It is unfair to compare Marner and others to them, I agree, but it is easier to score in Game 1 than Game 7 typically.No, he hasn't. Some people have just worked to cut and paste together a really misleading picture without actually understanding it.
All playoff games are worth the same anyway, and overall, Marner has been better.
5 by 8?We should really extend Knies before playing him with Matthews/Marner