Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

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TMLegend

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What a load of crap that snake oil salesman is...same kind of grand vision he had with the Leafs.
Didn't have a very good July 1st that's for sure. An undersized D and a couple of undersized cardio merchants on forward. Classic Dubas.

Best move of the day was trading Smith. But even then, all he got of value was a 2nd that's 3 years away.
 

SprDaVE

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I think a trade will be made for forward help.

Yep.

Leafs will likely grab a few AAAA/depth players to complete for spots and depth, but for any real substantial upgrades in the top 9 it will have to come via trades.
 
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francis246

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I think the sizzle is off this Maple Leafs build because of repeat playoff humiliations with no sign the core guys have matured in any way whatsoever. So if you're a forward hoping to bandwagon on a Maple Leafs top six role you know you're in a revolving door contract, get scapegoated for the core guys failures and you're on the road again just like that. Seems like that last batch of good guys in ROR and Schenn really didn't like what they saw. And I don't blame them. I don't like either.

Really doesn’t have anything to do with what you mentioned. It’s quite simple. Skinner knows he’s only getting a 1-year deal. He needs to go to a place where his numbers will be unreal and he’ll get PP time. That’s Edmonton. EDM runs two units and draisaitl and Mcdavid stay out there the full 2 minutes while everyone else changes.

Skinner probably would not get top PP time in Toronto
 
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Evilhomer

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I feel confident Ottawa will finish closer to 1st in the Atlantic than out of the playoffs next season. Depends what happens with Pinto.

Jensen, Amadio, Ullmark, Perron are great additions.
Ottawa wins the summer every year, and then loses the fall every year. Ullmark will not be able to maintain his numbers in Ottawa, and Perron, Amadio and Jensen are depth guys who will do fine, but collectively I don't think they will move the needle for Ottawa.
 

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I like the changes if they trade Marner for a d above Reilly , not sure who that would be though . Also goaltending is still a question regardless . Otherwise they shuffled the chairs again
 
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Gabriel426

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I like the changes if they trade Marner for a d above Reilly , not sure who that would be though . Also goaltending is still a question regardless . Otherwise they shuffled the chairs again
I would take MM and JT to Preds for Stamkos and Marchessault with picks, lol.
Quite insane that Stamkos and Marchessault is the same cap hit as JT and Kampf or MM and Kampf.
 
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Evilhomer

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The way he stole the Toronto job briefly reminds me of Jack Campbell. Extremely mercurial guy who might put together a run for the starting job from a faltering starter but definitely not a guy with the right head space to hold that job, thrive in that job.
I think it's a good place for Samsonov to land. He can do well in short stretches as a backup. That is his career ceiling at this point, absent a completely unexpected breakthrough.
 

SprDaVE

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I feel confident Ottawa will finish closer to 1st in the Atlantic than out of the playoffs next season. Depends what happens with Pinto.

Jensen, Amadio, Ullmark, Perron are great additions.

We'll see by October but downgrading heavily on Chychrun and adding Perron and Amadio doesn't do much of anything to make up over 20 points in the standings at the bare minimum they will need. Grabbing Ullmark was very good though. Should be able to compete a little more without awful goaltending. Maybe they sneak into a wild card spot but I'd be surprised if they weren't fodder again.
 

Stephen

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Really doesn’t have anything to do with what you mentioned. It’s quite simple. Skinner knows he’s only getting a 1-year deal. He needs to go to a place where his numbers will be unreal and he’ll get PP time. That’s Edmonton. EDM runs two units and draisaitl and Mcdavid stay out there the full 2 minutes while everyone else changes.

Skinner probably would not get top PP time in Toronto

I don’t think it’s about PP at all. It’s going to a winning team with a chance to be with special players. Not overpaid star boys with a rotten playoff track record.
 

stickty111

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On D we are probably done aside from a veteranish #8 d man that goes in the AHL, and comes up in case of injuries, and clearing up space with a Timmins trade.

Up front, I have to think we'll add a top 9ish forward and another bottom 6 forward all though thats likely just Dewer.

Goalies we are done
 
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stickty111

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We'll see by October but downgrading heavily on Chychrun and adding Perron and Amadio doesn't do much of anything to make up over 20 points in the standings at the bare minimum. Grabbing Ullmark was very good though. Should be able to compete a little more without awful goaltending. Maybe they sneak into a wild card spot but I'd be surprised if they weren't fodder again.
Knowing Green's awful system, Ullmark has to be good
 
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Stephen

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We'll see by October but downgrading heavily on Chychrun and adding Perron and Amadio doesn't do much of anything to make up over 20 points in the standings at the bare minimum. Grabbing Ullmark was very good though. Should be able to compete a little more without awful goaltending. Maybe they sneak into a wild card spot but I'd be surprised if they weren't fodder again.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ullmark struggle mightily in Ottawa.
 

MCR74

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This Marner trade idea... Honestly, barring the GM pulling a miracle out of his ass, we're stuck with the motherf***er.
 

Gabriel426

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Really doesn’t have anything to do with what you mentioned. It’s quite simple. Skinner knows he’s only getting a 1-year deal. He needs to go to a place where his numbers will be unreal and he’ll get PP time. That’s Edmonton. EDM runs two units and draisaitl and Mcdavid stay out there the full 2 minutes while everyone else changes.

Skinner probably would not get top PP time in Toronto

I don’t think it’s about PP at all. It’s going to a winning team with a chance to be with special players. Not overpaid star boys with a rotten playoff track record.
I think it is very simple.
Despite how a few here kept saying Salary is based on regular season instead of playoffs stats…we all know a good playoffs means better pay day.
As of now, Oilers got the better odds in making a long playoffs run than the Leafs.
 

SprDaVE

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Damn .. Edmonton's got a fine forward group there.

Pretty good top 6 and solid bottom lines. Defensively it's not great but they've shown it's a capable group.

They're also apparently dumping Kane, which might open up space for something else.
 
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Stephen

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I think it is very simple.
Despite how a few here kept saying Salary is based on regular season instead of playoffs stats…we all know a good playoffs means better pay day.
As of now, Oilers got the better odds in making a long playoffs run than the Leafs.

Yep and they have stars that are worth bangswagoning. Look at Perry, Henrique both re-signing vs ROR taking the first flight to Nashville. Star led culture matters. It’s not good here in Toronto.
 

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