Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[SprDaVE]

This is what's happening in Carolina. They wouldn't re-sign Skjei, Pesce, Hamilton, Niederreiter, Trocheck, Teravainen, potentially Necas.

They aren't saying no to expensive free agents to replace those they let walk. We've let plenty of free agents walk... So I don't understand the argument here.

 

[Tony Romo]

Like if we look around the division....Boston and Tampa have both improved considerably over last season. Ottawa has got Ullmark now, Detroit was right there last year. I am not saying we are going to fall out of the playoffs....but with the way we are spending our money? I just won't be shocked is all lol

The Red wings finished 11 points behind us, Ottawa finished 24 points behind us.

 

[Sypher04]

If you anticipate Matthews putting up a 70 goal/selke season again then they will be roughly the same up front. If you factor in the likely regression from Tavares and Matthews then they are in worse shape. Bertuzzi is also a big loss.

He’s really not imo.
Also I don’t think we should presume Matthew’s and Tavares production should be altogether too different

 

[SprDaVE]

As of now, they have 7 1/2 million dollars left to spend. They need to sign Dewar, Robertson, another goalie, another defenceman, and a decent forward.

Hmmmm

The bargain bin will get plenty of phone calls. Dewar is going to be cheap. Robertson cheap or punted.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

The Red wings finished 11 points behind us, Ottawa finished 24 points behind us.

Which means nothing next season.

 

[Rude Dog]

Prepare for annoyance.

Dodging the Zadorov bullet may be the one consolation for today, though.

You dodged one bullet only to take another one right in the nuts.

 

[Puckstuff]

#1 Rielly
#2 Tanev
#3 _______
# 4McCabe
#5 Liljegren
#6 Benoit

We desperately need a #3 D. OEL cannot be the #3 D.

 

[Torontonian]

#1 Rielly
#2 Tanev
#3 _______
# 4McCabe
#5 Liljegren
#6 Benoit

We desperately need a #3 D. OEL cannot be the #3 D.

It's looking more Like Lilly will be #4, McCabe #3 and OEL would be 5-6.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I would take Sean Walker over OEL at 4 million lol haven't even seen his name mentioned anywhere either.

 

[TMLegend]

#1 Rielly
#2 Tanev
#3 _______
# 4McCabe
#5 Liljegren
#6 Benoit

We desperately need a #3 D. OEL cannot be the #3 D.

That would be a good d-core if you bumped everyone down a spot.

 

[Americanadian]

They aren't saying no to expensive free agents to replace those they let walk. We've let plenty of free agents walk... So I don't understand the argument here.

Carolina hasn't brought in a ton of risky UFA's. They signed Orlov to 7.75Mx2 which was high AAV, fairly low risk. They signed Bunting to a fair deal given his production. MY argument is they are the example of saying "no" to bad contracts. Kotkaniemi is an outlier on their books.

 

[Future]

Pesce just signed for 1 million more then Tanev..... Same term, and he is only 29.

Darn.

You forgot the fact that Pesce is a worse player. Essentially a taller TJ Brodie that became a whipping boy toward the end of his tenure in Carolina.

 

[OVO16]

Since we gonna be bargain hunting, give me Brandan Duhaime and Vincent Deharnais

 

[Amadeus]

Our core guys not giving a discount is the difference between getting close to washed up players and true upgrades.

 

[IceColdBear]

#1 Rielly
#2 Tanev
#3 _______
# 4McCabe
#5 Liljegren
#6 Benoit

We desperately need a #3 D. OEL cannot be the #3 D.

We desperately need a #1D. Rielly is a #2, Tanev is a #3.

 

[egd27]

So you're saying Marner is gone

Well it seems like there isn't much cap left now if he stays.

 

[Green Snow Storm]

We really needed to come out of this with one of Zadorov, Roy, or Montour as well. So far I'm underwhelmed with this offseason, but still time to turn it around.

 

[JKG33]

#1 Rielly
#2 Tanev
#3 _______
# 4McCabe
#5 Liljegren
#6 Benoit

We desperately need a #3 D. OEL cannot be the #3 D.

Really the need is a #1, or at least another Rielly type to have 2 guys thatre low end #1's/high end 2's.

 

[Smif]

Pesce just signed for 1 million more then Tanev..... Same term, and he is only 29.

Darn.

NJ got the local boy discount, too bad Tanev wasn't a local boy for us, right?

 

[Rare Jewel]

You dodged one bullet only to take another one right in the nuts.

Pretty much... lol

 

[SprDaVE]

Carolina hasn't brought in a ton of risky UFA's. They signed Orlov to 7.75Mx2 which was high AAV, fairly low risk. They signed Bunting to a fair deal given his production. MY argument is they are the example of saying "no" to bad contracts. Kotkaniemi is an outlier on their books.

Bunting wasn't good at all, punted in the first year of his contract. Orlov has been terrible, but the short-term deal saved them. If they want to replace the players the let walk this season, it's going to cost them a lot more than you think. If they say no to a lot of players, they will not be very good. We'll see what they do.

 

[Jozay]

Trenin apparently getting 3.5 a year, damn

That Domi deal is better than I thought lol

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Dreger saying the Leafs are still looking for a 3rd defensemen.

 

[stickty111]

Dreger seemed to imply Leafs will add another D even after OEL

 

[Americanadian]

He’s really not imo.
Also I don’t think we should presume Matthew’s and Tavares production should be altogether too different

Bertuzzi won his minutes no matter who his linemates were (outside of Bertuzzi-Domi-Nylander). To the eye he wasn't spectacular but his on-ice results were elite.

He also lead the team in playoff scoring and was directly responsible for their only goal in game 7.

I will gladly take a bet that Matthews/Tavares combine for less than 98 goals/172 points!