Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition
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1specter
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It's disgusting that Shanahan is still here, he should've been shot out of a cannon in 2023.
How come nobody want Kampf, Calle and Sammy’s UFA rights, lol
Kurtz
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That's not really saying anything. Some contracts are good, some are bad, yes.
But has Allvin shown you anything to make you believe he's prone to overpaying guys? All of his signings have looked like good values, so if even he's willing to go $5+, that should tell you something.
rumman
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Tampa's mgmt have the stones to make the hard decisions, Toronto's mgmt, not so much...........
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Tre cooked on the trade back. Unfortunately on the second day trade he forgot to cook. I changed my mind, a 7th is garbage
You gotta hand it to TB.. they aren’t afraid to ship guys out.. young guys at that and change the dynamics of their team. We got a management crew who are scared shitless to ask a player to waive a NMC
Stephen
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This draft is really showing us how risk adverse, ultra conservative and unimaginative the Shanahan regime is.
In a summer where big organizational change has been identified, I don't think you can stand pat on everything and keep the band together like you're protecting a championship recipe. Even if you can't move off a core piece, I think you owe it to optics to at least shuffle the deck a little, swap out a Jarnkrok and a Kampf or something that might imply a bigger restructuring later.
As boring off the ice as they are on it.
In a summer where big organizational change has been identified, I don't think you can stand pat on everything and keep the band together like you're protecting a championship recipe. Even if you can't move off a core piece, I think you owe it to optics to at least shuffle the deck a little, swap out a Jarnkrok and a Kampf or something that might imply a bigger restructuring later.
As boring off the ice as they are on it.
rumman
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one can wish...........Treliving working on a fleecing for sure!!!
Stephen
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Dumped Sergachev days away from his NTC kicking in.
I actually think moving off Serg is a bad idea at that price though but they do look like they're set up to take some big swings on the UFA market.
Or just that nobody want them on their team.
As that’s the reason why we want them to be off our team the first place.
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I'm willing to retain 50% of Marner's deal if the signing bonus is that big of a deal. Holy cow, this team isn't it! The cap went up a record breaking amount and it's immediately nulled by just 2 of the core 4 and Mitch wants a big raise? You've got to be kidding. I'm pretty close to adding a sweetener in addition. Desperate for some kind of pulse from this group.
SprDaVE
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Yes? Allvin certainly isn't excused of this. He signed Kuzmenko and Mikheyev from the top of my head, and he's only been there since 2022.
It only tells me he wanted to keep the player, but the player will likely get more and term. It doesn't say much of anything. And it will likely be a mistake.
Stephen
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No I don't believe that, they're solid NHL players but just part of a whole recipe that doesn't work in Toronto.
Kurtz
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Stephen
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I just find it incredulous that Marner wants a raise when he's overpaid to begin with, and his camp is going to make a big stink about it like this market is desperate to have him back or something.
I don't care about Marino, but I feel like we missed an opportunity on Logan Thompson. That's the perfect complement to Woll and he essentially costs nothing on the cap.
Malachi Crunch
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Meanwhile, Doug McLean was completely flipping out over the idea of trading Marner on Real Kyper and Bourne yesterday.
I’m expecting a 8 year extension for Marner at this point. It’s super safe, that’s how this management team acts.
Stephen
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I've been watching Rutherford for decades now and one of the things about him is he makes a ton of moves, good, bad, ugly but he just keeps cooking, turning good assets into mistakes, mistakes into good assets again. He's dynamic, careless, risky. Kind of an agent of chaos. Not quite sure how he assembled 3 cup winners.
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Yes and no. As those players are always available in the UFA market, and they are not players who will be in a bidding war for signings.
Guys like Kampf and Calle are as common as they come, there is really nothing special about these two.
Lilly and Robbie are diff cases but maybe Tre isn’t selling them or the package are just meh.
MM is the extreme case.
Lastly, Leafs got no draft picks to trade and their prospects are meh beside Cowan and Minten.
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SprDaVE
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There have been zero rumours the Leafs have any interest on removing those players. Very likely the Leafs want them around next year (not Samsonov)
The only player that I've seen in legit trade rumours is Liljegren.
