Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Menzinger]

That seems like a lot of excuses for not making a trade. It's not that complicated and there were plenty of capable assets to put in play with varying amounts of value. Not all players and prospects have 0 value, let's get real.

Treliving traded a lot of picks this past deadline just like any other GM that was here before, pointing to the lack of picks.

You can blame everything on the previous GM if you want, I'll just stay in the present.

Yep. GMs are paid a ton of money to be able to make trades and uncover unexpected deals. It's not supposed to be an easy job. If Tre can't do it, he wasn't the right man for the task

 

[WTFMAN99]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841584738471182649

I'm definitely guessing at Marner and Pettersson contracts.

Even though Robertson is signed, Holmberg is RFA and Timmins is too but no idea if Jarnkrok and/or Liljegren is actually traded this year as an example, hard to predict the future.

I did a 92.5M cap as Bettman said they were working off of.

Maybe Holmberg 4C instead, in fact probably a safer bet.

I would like to find room for Trent Frederic like 4M x 6 years, functional toughness.

Not sure how to feel about Domi at 2C but don't think I would want JT at 2C either

 

[SprDaVE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841584738471182649

McCabe is pretty good and a warrior. Happy they are able to keep at a fair cap hit.

Our defense is locked up for the next few years at a pretty good clip. It's old though so that's going to be interesting in 3-5 years but that's a long way away.

 

[SprDaVE]

View attachment 911770

View attachment 911771

I'm definitely guessing at Marner and Pettersson contracts.

Even though Robertson is signed, Holmberg is RFA and Timmins is too but no idea if Jarnkrok and/or Liljegren is actually traded this year as an example, hard to predict the future.

I did a 92.5M cap as Bettman said they were working off of.

Maybe Holmberg 4C instead, in fact probably a safer bet.

I would like to find room for Trent Frederic like 4M x 6 years, functional toughness.

Not sure how to feel about Domi at 2C but don't think I would want JT at 2C either

I feel like adding another 6M defenseman long-term is not really needed in the next year. It's very overkill. All that money should go towards the forwards because those forward lines are pretty bad depth wise, especially at center.

Say what you want about JT but if both sides want to make it work at below market value, they should 1000% do it, and whatever money left over you can bolster it up further.

 

[Kiwi]

Maybe I'm misremembering or something but when I watch this team come playoff time we can't score for **** and currently have a massive hole at middle 6C were hoping to fill with one of the best RW in the league

So I'm wondering why everyone on here is talking about acquiring another defenseman, after we spent 10M on cap space this offseason strengthening that area rather than trying to sort out the massive glaring hole in the lineup

Every dollar, every asset should be used sorting it out because Nylander needs to be in the best position possible to help us win and that may very well be on the RW

 

[Gallagbi]

Like McCabe but he'll be 31 in a week or two. Another long term deal isn't ideal

 

[SprDaVE]

Like McCabe but he'll be 31 in a week or two. Another long term deal isn't ideal

They're trying to win a cup or 2 or 3 in that window I guess, or maybe just a few rounds. They are really foregoing long-term cap risks. You won't get much better than him in free agency for 5M, but the player might be younger.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I feel like adding another 6M defenseman long-term is not really needed in the next year. It's very overkill. All that money will go towards upfront because those forward lines are pretty bad depth wise.

I don't disagree, I don't run the team but 28 year Marcus Pettersson seems like a smarter bet than 31 year old Jake McCabe. McCabe has a bit more physicality and can play both sides but I think Pettersson defensively is just better and would offer an option that's actually a bit younger as we'd be a bit older back there.

Depending on how Timmins, Robertson etc all went down, forward is definitely a need and my god centre is a black hole currently but not a lot available in UFA either.

 

[Rare Jewel]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841584738471182649

Yikes.

Decent player, but that's too rich (and term) for me.

 

[Zero1]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841584738471182649

Love McCabe but the AAV needs to come down for that term.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Maybe I'm misremembering or something but when I watch this team come playoff time we can't score for **** and currently have a massive hole at middle 6C were hoping to fill with one of the best RW in the league

So I'm wondering why everyone on here is talking about acquiring another defenseman, after we spent 10M on cap space this offseason strengthening that area rather than trying to sort out the massive glaring hole in the lineup

Every dollar, every asset should be used sorting it out because Nylander needs to be in the best position possible to help us win and that may very well be on the RW

Just because you spend money on it doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

Swapping Brodie and Giordano for Tanev and OEL for me wasn't as much of an improvement as I hoped for in the summer. We'll see how it looks throughout the season.


I agree on finding the middle 6 C, however, but this GM seems to have an issue making trades.

 

[Kiwi]

Just because you spend money on it doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

Swapping Brodie and Giordano for Tanev and OEL for me wasn't as much of an improvement as I hoped for in the summer. We'll see how it looks throughout the season.


I agree on finding the middle 6 C, however, but this GM seems to have an issue making trades.

Brodie and Gio were husks of themselves last season and Tanev is arguably the best defensive defenseman in the entire league

I'm less impressed with OEL but he's at least a very good #5 and Hakanpaa is the big moose #6 they seem to love

It may end up being a TDL matter but we need everything going towards that center slot first and foremost imo

 

[Menzinger]

Brodie and Gio were husks of themselves last season and Tanev is arguably the best defensive defenseman in the entire league

I'm less impressed with OEL but he's at least a very good #5 and Hakanpaa is the big moose #6 they seem to love

It may end up being a TDL matter but we need everything going towards that center slot first and foremost imo

I actually think OEL is going to have a bit of a bounce back year..I can see him potentially playing as a solid second pairing guy in sheltered minutes

 

[WTFMAN99]

I actually think OEL is going to have a bit of a bounce back year..I can see him potentially playing as a solid second pairing guy in sheltered minutes

I liked OEL so far, I think he probably needs more PP time as I think that is an area he can actually help the most.

I also could see our 2nd and 3rd pairing playing fairly equal minutes.

 

[Roo]

We’re offering McCabe a 6y contract? Seems too long. $5m-$5.2m is fine, but 6 years is too long. I would go 4y max. He will be 31 in 10 days, and 32 a year from now when the deal would start.

 

[TMLAM34]

Pettersson would be a fantastic target. Would really put our d group over the top. Would be fine with moving Liljegren + in that kind of move.

Rielly - Tanev
Pettersson - McCabe
OEL - Hakanpaa/Benoit

 

[HomelessPepper]

Not super psych'd at McCabe for that term and dollar figure. Love him at his current (retained) amount. Time will tell.

 

[Legion34]

Marner for 12.
McCabe for 5
Knies for 5.

Would basically take up our space.

 

[Maple Leaf]

leafs dont understand the salary cap

 

[hamzarocks]

Marner for 12.
McCabe for 5
Knies for 5.

Would basically take up our space.

Tavares cap reallocation still there

This scenerio, marner is up ~1M
McCabe up 3M
Knies up ~4M

So 8M increase, cap goes up ~5M

Tavares 11M cap gone so total we wpuld have 8M left after the above if that was the scenerio which occurred

Even if you bring tavares at 4M or 5M still 3-4M left

Ofcourse we shouldnt be doing that type of run it back scenerio barring a ECSF game 7 loss with it being a super tough 2nd round series at minimum.

Leafs could create space via Kampf + Janrkrok deals which takes 4.5M out and can be replaced for 1M ELCs (greb & Minten hopefully)

Which brings total to 5.5M - 6.5M along with potential Lilijgren move if he doesnt cut it out this year which can get that to 7M - 8M capspace even after all of the above guys extended/brought back at cap hits you mentioned + Tavares at 4-5M

 

[Dekes For Days]

Love McCabe.
Really happy that it looks like we're re-signing him.
Not super thrilled about signing more players into their late 30s though.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Brodie and Gio were husks of themselves last season and Tanev is arguably the best defensive defenseman in the entire league

I'm less impressed with OEL but he's at least a very good #5 and Hakanpaa is the big moose #6 they seem to love

It's a big claim for Tanev. I wouldn't go that far, but he's the best of that lot.

OEL better be more than #5 @ that that price and term. Hakanpaa is not really a factor until he proves he can even play, which I doubt TBH.


But even then, the D as a group isn't where it needs to be IMO, it's just not there.

 

[TMLAM34]

McCabe easily gets 6 million on the open market, I’m fine with 5 per. He’s a keeper.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Rising cap as well but I do think that’s rich and too much term for his age

 

[Dreakmur]

Like McCabe but he'll be 31 in a week or two. Another long term deal isn't ideal

If he signs that contract, he's the whipping boy by about Thanksgiving.