Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[VanW27]

Jarnkrok + Robertson + Connor Timmins (if they want some defensive depth) for Ross Colton. Should be cap savings for Colorado

Trade Kampf to Anaheim for a late future pick. Straight salary dump

Sign Clutterbuck

Domi - Mathews - Marner
Knies - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Colton - Holmberg
Clutterbuck - Dewar - Reaves

Am I crazy abdmissing something or are the Avs fine for Cap space?

If Landeskog is healthy they have 4.5 million and only need to add a depth player or two.

If he's not they have about 12 million to spend.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Ok, so it's only July 2nd.... but I'm not overly thrilled, or optimistic as to what we've done. I love the additions to the D, if it were 6-8 years ago.... but here we are. I like Tanev, OEL is kind of meh, and overpaid. Hakanpaa was good at one point... we shall see how the knee and his game recovers.

I do like the Domi and Lilly signings.

But no trades... no new forwards... nothing's changed there at all.

I guess I'm kind of underwhelmed at this point. Is there any indication that we've got some cooking going on, to change some of what's up front?

Right there with you on basically each point.

 

[1specter]

Ok, so it's only July 2nd.... but I'm not overly thrilled, or optimistic as to what we've done. I love the additions to the D, if it were 6-8 years ago.... but here we are. I like Tanev, OEL is kind of meh, and overpaid. Hakanpaa was good at one point... we shall see how the knee and his game recovers.

I do like the Domi and Lilly signings.

But no trades... no new forwards... nothing's changed there at all.

I guess I'm kind of underwhelmed at this point. Is there any indication that we've got some cooking going on, to change some of what's up front?

My thoughts exactly. We are marginally better than last year, and it seems like they are just banking on revamped coaching and internal growth to do the rest, which overall seems irresponsible and not good enough when Matthews and Nylander are basically at their peaks.

 

[Fogelhund]

What's the rush?

No rush, but it also feels like there won’t really be many changes of note to come either.

 

[OVO16]

Am I crazy abdmissing something or are the Avs fine for Cap space?

If Landeskog is healthy they have 4.5 million and only need to add a depth player or two.

If he's not they have about 12 million to spend.

Go look at Seravelli's tweet

 

[SprDaVE]

Ok, so it's only July 2nd.... but I'm not overly thrilled, or optimistic as to what we've done. I love the additions to the D, if it were 6-8 years ago.... but here we are. I like Tanev, OEL is kind of meh, and overpaid. Hakanpaa was good at one point... we shall see how the knee and his game recovers.

I do like the Domi and Lilly signings.

But no trades... no new forwards... nothing's changed there at all.

I guess I'm kind of underwhelmed at this point. Is there any indication that we've got some cooking going on, to change some of what's up front?

Treliving did say they had more work to do.

It's more or less the same team with a few of the deck chairs changed again. There's likely a trade or two coming but to what level they will be... Who knows.

The 2 big x factors with this team are the growth of a few players like Liljegren, Woll, McMann, Holmberg and Knies, and if the new coaches can unlock another level to the overall performance of the team.

 

[1specter]

The 2 big x factors with this team are the growth of a few players like Liljegren, Woll and Knies, and if the new coaches can unlock another level to the overall performance of the team.

And if they can move a core piece, which at this point in time seems unlikely.

 

[Community]

My thoughts exactly. We are marginally better than last year, and it seems like they are just banking on revamped coaching and internal growth to do the rest, which seems irresponsible when Matthews and Nylander are basically at their peaks.

You can't really expect us to put together a better team on paper than last year until JTs contract is over since the cap increase went straight to Nylander.

For this year, you're hoping that the new coach can help improve our end result with a new system and that the additions help make us a more balanced team. Hopefully Cowan and/or another rookie (Minten/Niemela) step-up during training camp and make it onto the team for some internal growth.

I'd expect us to likely try to add a scoring middle six forward at the TDL and then look to improve our forward depth more the following year with additional capspace. The hope is that we don't need a defenseman or goalie this TDL for once.

 

[showtime8]

Ok, so it's only July 2nd.... but I'm not overly thrilled, or optimistic as to what we've done. I love the additions to the D, if it were 6-8 years ago.... but here we are. I like Tanev, OEL is kind of meh, and overpaid. Hakanpaa was good at one point... we shall see how the knee and his game recovers.

I do like the Domi and Lilly signings.

But no trades... no new forwards... nothing's changed there at all.

I guess I'm kind of underwhelmed at this point. Is there any indication that we've got some cooking going on, to change some of what's up front?

I'm going to echo the comments here about being underwhelmed. I'll also add that I'm concerned too.

The biggest thing that concerns me is the fact that moving cap space around now and finding value on day 2-5 into free agency starts to become fewer and fewer.

Could they subtract from their current roster and make a Marner trade? Absolutely. The longer it goes on, IMO it starts to become harder to fill out the roster.

 

[Bloomberg]

Ok, so it's only July 2nd.... but I'm not overly thrilled, or optimistic as to what we've done. I love the additions to the D, if it were 6-8 years ago.... but here we are. I like Tanev, OEL is kind of meh, and overpaid. Hakanpaa was good at one point... we shall see how the knee and his game recovers.

I do like the Domi and Lilly signings.

But no trades... no new forwards... nothing's changed there at all.

I guess I'm kind of underwhelmed at this point. Is there any indication that we've got some cooking going on, to change some of what's up front?

One difference is that we stopped trading away 1st round picks for rentals, so now we have promising prospects like Cowan who may contribute next year at low cap hits. Or even, in trades for a more promising long term player like Pinto. IMO, there's more hope now lol.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Fantasy GM Mode:

Marner + Kampf to Utah for something around Dylan Guenther + Bjugstad

Jarnkrok + Robertson to Colorado for Ross Colton

Sign Tarasenko

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
Guenther-Colton-Tarasenko
Dewar-Bjugstad-Reaves
Holmberg

 

[showtime8]

You can't really expect us to put together a better team on paper than last year until JTs contract is over since the cap increase went straight to Nylander.

For this year, you're hoping that the new coach can help improve our end result with a new system and that the additions help make us a more balanced team. Hopefully Cowan and/or another rookie (Minten/Niemela) step-up during training camp and make it onto the team for some internal growth.

I'd expect us to likely try to add a scoring middle six forward at the TDL and then look to improve our forward depth more the following year with additional capspace. The hope is that we don't need a defenseman or goalie this TDL for once.

The problem with this thinking is that you're going to be able to continue to keep pace with the other teams in the division and no one else is going to get better, while the Leafs try and restructure their roster based on more funds available.

 

[jaric1862]

Roslovic or Sprong please

 

[VanW27]

Go look at Seravelli's tweet

I saw it, 2 things:

1. The guy who all but guaranteed Marner would be traded

2. If he's available that doesn't mean it's a cap dump situation.

 

[Fogelhund]

One difference is that we stopped trading away 1st round picks for rentals, so now we have promising prospects like Cowan who may contribute next year at low cap hits. Or even, in trades for a more promising long term player like Pinto. IMO, there's more hope now lol.

Definite positive for sure.

One challenge is our loss in goal scoring capability. We had challenges as it was in the playoffs, but lost Bertuzzi and maybe Robertson too. Robertson should have been a 25 goal scorer going forward if used right, and Bertuzzi did pot a few for us.... and no replacements at all.

I guess the hope is Knies, Cowan and Grebyonkin might contribute?

I look through the remaining free agents, and don't see much there either... We can't really move out Kampf, Jarnkrok, Robertson... without a real hockey trade now. I don't see adequate Free Agent replacements, and the team just gets worse without a legit return. Robertson, if I'm management, and like the kid... I'm not trading him. Sorry, we have control, prove you belong, and we will give you ice time... we aren't under any obligation to trade him... he can sit at home until he signs... we need his goal scoring.

 

[SprDaVE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808201830771388669

 

[SprDaVE]

Trades are going down today. Blues makes 2 additions... we'll see for what.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808202463952134269

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808202703245328498

 

[mydnyte]

Definite positive for sure.

One challenge is our loss in goal scoring capability. We had challenges as it was in the playoffs, but lost Bertuzzi and maybe Robertson too. Robertson should have been a 25 goal scorer going forward if used right, and Bertuzzi did pot a few for us.... and no replacements at all.

I guess the hope is Knies, Cowan and Grebyonkin might contribute?

I look through the remaining free agents, and don't see much there either... We can't really move out Kampf, Jarnkrok, Robertson... without a real hockey trade now. I don't see adequate Free Agent replacements, and the team just gets worse without a legit return. Robertson, if I'm management, and like the kid... I'm not trading him. Sorry, we have control, prove you belong, and we will give you ice time... we aren't under any obligation to trade him... he can sit at home until he signs... we need his goal scoring.

Minten should make the team, and Cowen is either on the Leafs or back to JRs... Greb, no idea, depends on if he can play for the marlies or not (i didnt check)

 

[SprDaVE]

Trades are going down today. Blues makes 2 additions... we'll see for what.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808202463952134269

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808202703245328498

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808204108853055832

 

[SprDaVE]

Not sure if valid or accurate, but not exactly a reach. Makes some sense. Grain of salt, etc.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808190797562413280

 

[Bloomberg]

Definite positive for sure.

One challenge is our loss in goal scoring capability. We had challenges as it was in the playoffs, but lost Bertuzzi and maybe Robertson too. Robertson should have been a 25 goal scorer going forward if used right, and Bertuzzi did pot a few for us.... and no replacements at all.

I guess the hope is Knies, Cowan and Grebyonkin might contribute?

I look through the remaining free agents, and don't see much there either... We can't really move out Kampf, Jarnkrok, Robertson... without a real hockey trade now. I don't see adequate Free Agent replacements, and the team just gets worse without a legit return. Robertson, if I'm management, and like the kid... I'm not trading him. Sorry, we have control, prove you belong, and we will give you ice time... we aren't under any obligation to trade him... he can sit at home until he signs... we need his goal scoring.

Bertuzzi is a big loss. He did so well in the playoffs too. I'm hoping OEL will help our power play, thus giving more offense. Also hoping that a lower usage Rielly (no more PP), he'll play better 5 on 5 and will help drive offense better as well.

We still need a 3C. I'm hoping we can swing a trade for Colton/Pinto/Tomasino. We'll see.

I think Cowan and Grebyonkin will make the team as well. Cowan straight out of camp, Grebyonkin might spend some time in the AHL first to get use to the North American game.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Not sure if valid or accurate, but not exactly a reach. Makes some sense. Grain of salt, etc.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808190797562413280

I saw that. I tend to believe it as it would be the most boring rumour to invent lol

 

[OVO16]

Damn Ottawa had to attach a draft to get rid of Joseph? Who's still a young player?

Yeah nobody gonna want Kampf

 

[SprDaVE]

Blues added both Faksa and Joseph (and a 3rd round pick) for future considerations. They were both making just around 3M.

Yeah... it's gonna be hard to make a trade.

 

[sxvnert]

Tbay:

Guentzel Point Kucherov
Hagel Cirelli Geekie
Sheary Paul Eyssimont
Girgensons Glendening Chaffee

Not too shabby.