Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[thusk]

Just thinking it through for a moment.

If we could get $1.5 million in salary retention from St. Louis as a frame of reference, and knock Schenn down to a cap hit of $5 million. And re-sign Tavares for up to but hopefully less than $6 million and basically turn the Tavares cap hit of $11 million into 2 centers, we would be in pretty good shape deepening the C slot.

Obviously we would need to get Knies re-signed $6 and probably bake in a $2.5 million raise for Marner the way things are going so that’ll eat up a lot of new cap right away. But we also have a lot of lower salaries guys who probably need to be cleaned up this year anyway.

Giroux got 6,5M, Kopitar 7M... With salary raising everything under 7M should be considerate like home discount

 

[ULF_55]

I see it differently.

If you are bringing in a 2C or 3C that is young and had term, you move off of Minten, as he won’t be having a Centre spot, and 4C can be filled via UFA at a low cost.

You keep Cowan who represents our pipeline on the wing.

Why move our best prospect in wing when you bring in a centre, and keep a centre that has literally no spot in the lineup for the foreseeable future?

For this reason I haven’t been letting myself get attached to Minten. If we bring in a 2C or 3C, I think Minten is gone, which would be best for him as well.

...

Same for Brayden. Want someone who is younger and still has a development opportunity vs. an overpriced, hard mileage guy who will become a diminishing asset, when we already face a diminishing asset scenario at Centre with Tavares. At least Tavares stands to age better than Schenn.

We need a meaningful, long-term addition at centre and RHD. Giving up our slim pipeline of Minten (Centre) and Danford makes no sense to bring in old guys in band-aid roles.

Either get long term fixes or hang on to your assets.

I don't know where B.Schenn is right now.

Is he still good enough to be a 2nd. line center?

Tanev was signed at 34 / 35 to a 6 year, $4.5mm contract by Treliving, so doubt another 3 years for Schenn at age 33 is going to deter him.
Leafs time is now and for the next 3-4 years.

Ideally, a long term 25-29 year old 2nd. line center would be the target, but again, I doubt B.Schenn's age will frighten the GM.

 

[The Shadow]

Giroux got 6,5M, Kopitar 7M... With salary raising everything under 7M should be considerate like home discount

Domi eating up cap room as well providing little value

 

[Sypher04]

Anyone we are trading futures for to bolster this roster needs to be a solution for this year and at least 2, ideally 3 more. We cannot afford to do this over again every season. Find solutions with some term or that are pending RFAs

It’s time for our professional scouts to earn their paycheques

 

[Stephen]

I don't know where B.Schenn is right now.

Is he still good enough to be a 2nd. line center?

Tanev was signed at 34 / 35 to a 6 year, $4.5mm contract by Treliving, so doubt another 3 years for Schenn at age 33 is going to deter him.
Leafs time is now and for the next 3-4 years.

Ideally, a long term 25-29 year old 2nd. line center would be the target, but again, I doubt B.Schenn's age will frighten the GM.

Yeah that question definitely needs to be answered. Where is B. Schenn at these days?

It’s kind of crazy how so many centers from that 2009 draft seem to be relevant for us here in 2025. Tavares, O’Reilly, B. Schenn, Kadri. Brock Nelson is from the 2010 draft.

Feels like the league is starting to get older again.

 

[ER89]

don't think you will get a young 25 yo #1 etablished Dman for a late 1st, cowan and B prospect. To get value you nwed to give value

No one said we don't. But it won't be a knies type guy. But if it is you still do it.

I would have said the same the same thing if I didn’t pay attention to the rest of the league.

Great you watch other teams. We still get hosed lmfao.

None of that helps us.

 

[OVO16]

COuld us buying low on Colton Scissons

 

[stats1]

That’s a heckuva gamble

No thanks. I don’t think people understand what a hot goalie can do to a whole series. Bobrovsky was blacked out throughout the SCF. Absolutely insane how locked in he was. f*** Bouchard lol and no thanks to RNH

 

[Sypher04]

Yeah that question definitely needs to be answered. Where is B. Schenn at these days?

It’s kind of crazy how so many centers from that 2009 draft seem to be relevant for us here in 2025. Tavares, O’Reilly, B. Schenn, Kadri. Brock Nelson is from the 2010 draft.

Feels like the league is starting to get older again.

I don’t love Kadri’s contract, but with the cap going up it could potentially be lived with. That said, Calgary is right on the wildcard bubble so he won’t be available

 

[Stephen]

I don’t love Kadri’s contract, but with the cap going up it could potentially be lived with. That said, Calgary is right on the wildcard bubble so he won’t be available

Think Kadri is not likely to be available either, but he’s probably in the best condition out of the trade options there given he’s got less mileage on him and current level of play. Plus it’s obvious a lot of people in Leaf Land would love him back. Myself included.

 

[Americanadian]

Great you watch other teams. We still get hosed lmfao.

None of that helps us.

Legitimate cup winning 3C with size and term on contract, partner for Rielly that has proven to be successful (also won 2 cups), scoring winger to create 3 legitimate scoring lines (also has term), C depth for the playoffs (also won 2 cups), experienced D depth.

Also clearing long-term cap hits in Domi, Benoit and Kampf.

 

[nuck]

Giroux got 6,5M, Kopitar 7M... With salary raising everything under 7M should be considerate like home discount

Anything close to 7 is a massive discount. Stamkos is his analog and while SS was a year younger the cap outlook wasn't nearly the same and he went to a club with the 4th lowest tax rate in the league for $8M x 4. If JT finishes 30+g and 80 points he is better than $8M on the market and the idea that he should be motivated to offer a discount when the Big 3's agents are taking turns piledriving Tre seems crazy optimistic. Under 8 is a win for the club.

 

[ULF_55]

Yeah that question definitely needs to be answered. Where is B. Schenn at these days?

It’s kind of crazy how so many centers from that 2009 draft seem to be relevant for us here in 2025. Tavares, O’Reilly, B. Schenn, Kadri. Brock Nelson is from the 2010 draft.

Feels like the league is starting to get older again.

Next 3 years with, Matthews, Schenn, Tavares and that probably puts the Leafs into retool scenario.

Maybe gives them the opportunity to develop some prospects into players?
Wouldn't that be a hoot!!!

 

[Rare Jewel]

My Idea, going off of the Roy thing, who I think may be the best target to go for.

Holmberg to Pittsburgh for a 3rd round pick (OTT), then

Dewar + 2nd + 3rd to Vegas for Roy

 

[Americanadian]

My Idea, going off of the Roy thing, who I think may be the best target to go for.

Holmberg to Pittsburgh for a 3rd round pick (OTT), then

Dewar + 2nd + 3rd to Vegas for Roy

The only way Roy is getting moved is if Vegas needs money to go after a big fish. I also don't see any world where Holmberg returns a 3rd. Dewar was a year younger and had already scored 10 goals last season and only returned a 4th. Holmberg is closer to waivers than a 3rd.

 

[Zero1]

don't think you will get a young 25 yo #1 etablished Dman for a late 1st, cowan and B prospect. To get value you nwed to give value

Why do the Islanders want to trade him? That sounds like a guy any team would want to keep.

Last season may be an outlier for him.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If you want Dobson you will have to likely give up Knies

I would consider it

It would hurt, but you do it.

D>>W especially for this team

 

[Jacquestrapless]

If you want Dobson you will have to likely give up Knies

I would consider it

I would do it. Only problem is that Lou would try to swing a + and the Leafs probably say no.

McCabe - Dobson
Rielly - Tanev
Oel - Myers/Benoit

or

McCabe Tanev
Oel- Dobson
Rielly - Myers/Benoit

I'd personally give the former a shot

 

[nuck]

Think Kadri is not likely to be available either, but he’s probably in the best condition out of the trade options there given he’s got less mileage on him and current level of play. Plus it’s obvious a lot of people in Leaf Land would love him back. Myself included.

I think Kadri's contract only works if JT or Marner aren't coming back. There is at least a chance one won't but if they both return I think he he is too rich for a club that collects range topping deals at every turn. The real prize would be a top pair D man, not another 33 year old forward who will struggle to deliver on his cap hit.

 

[Rare Jewel]

The only way Roy is getting moved is if Vegas needs money to go after a big fish. I also don't see any world where Holmberg returns a 3rd. Dewar was a year younger and had already scored 10 goals last season and only returned a 4th. Holmberg is closer to waivers than a 3rd.

The idea hinges on using the other GMs bias in your favour. No GM in the league will value Holmberg higher than Dubas, and he's sitting on three 3rd rounders for this draft as of right now.

And no GM likes Manitobans like McCrimmon, and they save roughly $2m in cap space to do whatever they want.

I would do it. Only problem is that Lou would try to swing a + and the Leafs probably say no.

McCabe - Dobson
Rielly - Tanev
Oel - Myers/Benoit

or

McCabe Tanev
Oel- Dobson
Rielly - Myers/Benoit

I'd personally give the former a shot

I'd add as well if needed.

 

[tony135420]

COuld us buying low on Colton Scissons

I mean this is the type of move I expect Tre to make. We simply do not have the assets and cap room to make a significant move without making detrimental changes to this roster.

 

[Americanadian]

The idea hinges on using the other GMs bias in your favour. No GM in the league will value Holmberg higher than Dubas, and he's sitting on three 3rd rounders for this draft as of right now.

And no GM likes Manitobans like McCrimmon, and they save roughly $2m in cap space to do whatever they want.

I had originally included Dewar to VGK in my proposal but he makes more than league minimum and it would make it too difficult for them to carry an extra F and D. There's also no chance he cracks their lineup if they acquire a winger (Rakell in my example):

Barbashev-Eichel-Olofsson
Dorofeyev-Hertl-Rakell
Saad-Karlsson-Stone
Pearson-Howden-Kolesar

I also think if Dubas was willing to part with a pick for Holmberg it would have been done a long time ago.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I had originally included Dewar to VGK in my proposal but he makes more than league minimum and it would make it too difficult for them to carry an extra F and D. There's also no chance he cracks their lineup if they acquire a winger (Rakell in my example):

Barbashev-Eichel-Olofsson
Dorofeyev-Hertl-Rakell
Saad-Karlsson-Stone
Pearson-Howden-Kolesar

It would be tough for him, but they'll need depth. My guess is they would like him better than Schwindt, Denisenko or Rondbjerg.

 

[Americanadian]

It would be tough for him, but they'll need depth. My guess is they would like him better than Schwindt, Denisenko or Rondbjerg.

They very well might but not if it's the difference between carrying a 21 man roster down the stretch or a 22 man roster. Either way - I don't think he would carry any value. He'd be worth less than the 4th they traded for him last season.

 

[Minty Cowboy]

Honestly the Schenn buzz i don't understand it

6,5 M for a 33 yo 3 C with 3 years remaining at 6'5

Not sure its the smartest way to spend 6,5M

How much does schenn make?