Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

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When was the last time a GM/AGM had their son on the team?
Bob Gainey was the GM Of Dallas and drafted his son Steve.

Lester Patrick was the GM of the NYR when they won the cup in 1940. His two sons played on that team.

Darryl Sutter was GM of Calgary when Brett played there.

Steve Tambellini was AGM of Vancouver when Jeff played tehre.
 
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So yes, 1st round pick for him. Which is about right for any UFA rental.

Wow, I'm pissed we missed on Granlund. This would have transformed our team. Perfect center for Nylander. There is no center available better than Granlund. Dallas is showing why they are an elite franchise.
 
Wow, I'm pissed we missed on Granlund. This would have transformed our team. Perfect center for Nylander. There is no center available better than Granlund. Dallas is showing why they are an elite franchise.

Be a playmaker and more skilled doesn't mean he was perfect target especially in a forechecking system. Nylander will be better with someone who will keep thing simple, work harder, rush the net and bring back puck on his stick than a playmaker who will play a bit more on peripheric.

For me Granlund was a pretty bad fit in Toronto
 
My current dream deadline:

To NJ: Kampf
To TOR: Bastian
*NJD need a solid 4C - Kampf was one of Keefe’s favorites.

To NSH: Domi, Timmins, 25 3rd
To TOR: Schenn, Jankowski
*I am assuming Domi doesn’t have Nashville on his no-trade list. Players generally see it as a good place to play. Leafs pick up a RD that elevated Rielly in the past, they also pick up a decent 4C with size and another year at 800k. Nashville needs scoring - Domi needs a reset. They might see upside.

To VGK: Dewar, Rakell
To PIT: Minten, Korczak, Robertson, VGK 25 2nd
To TOR: Roy
*VGK have significant C depth, they need another good winger but they also need cap space to pull off that move. Pittsburgh gets good young pieces in exchange for their biggest trade chip which they appear to value over draft picks according to the latest 32 thoughts pod. Minten and Robertson are Dubas/Clarke picks.

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Roy-Nylander
Pacioretty-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Lorentz-Jankowski-Bastian
Holmberg-Reaves

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Schenn
OEL-Myers
Benoit-Hakanpaa

This 24 player roster would allow them to pay Pacioretty’s bonus this season and not carry it over to next year (clear by 210k). This would also clear longer term cap hits with Kampf and Domi. Jankowski and Schenn carry one more year each.
 
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Be a playmaker and more skilled doesn't mean he was perfect target especially in a forechecking system. Nylander will be better with someone who will keep thing simple, work harder, rush the net and bring back puck on his stick than a playmaker who will play a bit more on peripheric.

For me Granlund was a pretty bad fit in Toronto

I don't often agree with you, but I do here. Granlund had the benefit of playing top minutes, top PP minutes on a bad San Jose team. He's playing with Eklund and Zetterlund, both good young wingers.

You take Granlund down from nearly 21 minutes a game, to the 13-14 minutes he'd get here, he doesn't get prime PP time, and he's probably around 20ish points on the season, with lesser minutes, and lesser linemates. He's smaller, more perimeter, and is only just about half a point a game in the playoffs.

I mean, he's good defensively, but I just don't think he's the guy we need, at that cost.
 
With the now economic war between Canada and the States. I could see US born players even less likely to want to come to, and play for Canadian teams than ever before. Good thing we’ve got our key US born players locked up for a few years.
 
My current dream deadline:

To NJ: Kampf
To TOR: Bastian
*NJD need a solid 4C - Kampf was one of Keefe’s favorites.

To NSH: Domi, Timmins, 25 3rd
To TOR: Schenn, Jankowski
*I am assuming Domi doesn’t have Nashville on his no-trade list. Players generally see it as a good place to play. Leafs pick up a RD that elevated Rielly in the past, they also pick up a decent 4C with size and another year at 800k. Nashville needs scoring - Domi needs a reset. They might see upside.

To VGK: Dewar, Rakell
To PIT: Minten, Korczak, Robertson, VGK 25 2nd
To TOR: Roy
*VGK have significant C depth, they need another good winger but they also need cap space to pull off that move. Pittsburgh gets good young pieces in exchange for their biggest trade chip which they appear to value over draft picks according to the latest 32 thoughts pod. Minten and Robertson are Dubas/Clarke picks.

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Roy-Nylander
Pacioretty-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Lorentz-Jankowski-Bastian
Holmberg-Reaves

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Schenn
OEL-Myers
Benoit-Hakanpaa

This 24 player roster would allow them to pay Pacioretty’s bonus this season and not carry it over to next year (clear by 210k). This would also clear longer term cap hits with Kampf and Domi. Jankowski and Schenn carry one more year each.
You may get some people disagreeing with you, but I appreciate the amount of thought that went into your proposal. Well done!
 
My current dream deadline:

To NJ: Kampf
To TOR: Bastian
*NJD need a solid 4C - Kampf was one of Keefe’s favorites.

To NSH: Domi, Timmins, 25 3rd
To TOR: Schenn, Jankowski
*I am assuming Domi doesn’t have Nashville on his no-trade list. Players generally see it as a good place to play. Leafs pick up a RD that elevated Rielly in the past, they also pick up a decent 4C with size and another year at 800k. Nashville needs scoring - Domi needs a reset. They might see upside.

To VGK: Dewar, Rakell
To PIT: Minten, Korczak, Robertson, VGK 25 2nd
To TOR: Roy
*VGK have significant C depth, they need another good winger but they also need cap space to pull off that move. Pittsburgh gets good young pieces in exchange for their biggest trade chip which they appear to value over draft picks according to the latest 32 thoughts pod. Minten and Robertson are Dubas/Clarke picks.

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Roy-Nylander
Pacioretty-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Lorentz-Jankowski-Bastian
Holmberg-Reaves

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Schenn
OEL-Myers
Benoit-Hakanpaa

This 24 player roster would allow them to pay Pacioretty’s bonus this season and not carry it over to next year (clear by 210k). This would also clear longer term cap hits with Kampf and Domi. Jankowski and Schenn carry one more year each.
I don't hate it, but I just don't see Treliving as being the guy who is that active.
 
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No, that's how you're interpreting it. Right? @WTFMAN99


Isn't this what they've been doing since 2019? It hasn't really worked, has it?

Part of the reason there are no players to re-sign is that they haven't been able to keep any of their depth over the last 3-5 years; it's the near-constant rotation of middle and bottom 6 players, and the same goes for the defence all while not actually being good enough to go far in the spring.

It's not ridiculous to say that keeping this roster construction with a three headed cap hydra is a concession in itself because you just can't fill the rest of the team as best as you could, yet this NBA "stars over anything" mentality still persists; why? We've had no success with it.

Colorado has changed, and they've actually won something...


It's not cherry-picking when he makes as much as he does. He gets paid what he does to produce points, and he's a 90-point scorer, as you've pointed out.

If he wants to be paid like Rantanen, then produce and have success like he has.


Well, kind of; by saying more than 90, you are inferring it's better than 90 when really he's only paced like that twice. 21-22 and this season. So, whether it's 90 or 96, it's more or less the same value.

90 is 90, and that's impressive, so it doesn't need to be glossed up.


You do need star players; three at one position (for that much $) is the problem.

If we had drafted Werenski instead of Marner, this wouldn't be as much of an issue.


I'm not too sure who you're replying too because I think I ignored whoever it is lol.

At some point, I gave up talking to a brick wall.
 

Take it how you will, but links the follow players to Toronto (at least whose Toronto is interested in).

Forwards:
Nelson
Tanev
Gorude
Evans
Donato
Laughton.

Defenceman:
Oleksiak

Lists Robertson up for trade, with Seattle, Anaheim, Dallas as suitors. Seems to be smoke with Toronto/Seattle having interest with each other players.
 
I don't often agree with you, but I do here. Granlund had the benefit of playing top minutes, top PP minutes on a bad San Jose team. He's playing with Eklund and Zetterlund, both good young wingers.

You take Granlund down from nearly 21 minutes a game, to the 13-14 minutes he'd get here, he doesn't get prime PP time, and he's probably around 20ish points on the season, with lesser minutes, and lesser linemates. He's smaller, more perimeter, and is only just about half a point a game in the playoffs.

I mean, he's good defensively, but I just don't think he's the guy we need, at that cost.

I will add if chemistry with Nylander doesn't work, i don't know where he would fit... I don't see him at all with Domi, with Marner to pretty high playmaker so probably having lack of finish.

vs a guy like Gourde with less skill but he fit everywhere ib the line up. A player i can see easily having succes with marner, nylander or domi.

You need more than skill to win in playoff and that's should be #1 thing we shiuld had learned from Dubas era
 

Take it how you will, but links the follow players to Toronto (at least whose Toronto is interested in).

Forwards:
Nelson
Tanev
Gorude
Evans
Donato
Laughton.

Defenceman:
Oleksiak

Lists Robertson up for trade, with Seattle, Anaheim, Dallas as suitors. Seems to be smoke with Toronto/Seattle having interest with each other players.

I really don't understand the interest in Oleksiak. He's got another year at 4.6M. He turns 33 years old in December. He's left handed. I don't think he's been particular good either.
 
I really don't understand the interest in Oleksiak. He's got another year at 4.6M. He turns 33 years old in December. He's left handed. I don't think he's been particular good either.
Not to mention our left side is more than fine with McCabe, Rielly, Ekman-Larsson and Benoit. Oleksiak can play the right side but we need guys who are right handed back there.
 
I really don't understand the interest in Oleksiak. He's got another year at 4.6M. He turns 33 years old in December. He's left handed. I don't think he's been particular good either.
Not very mobile and hasn't been very good, but neither has Seattle.. but he's got 2 good things going for him, Size and a long stick... which suits how Treliving likes his d-man.

Very easily can see a deal like Tanev & Gorude for something like 1st/Robertson/5th round pick. (Im worried about the Gorude injury) rather target Tanev & Donato
 
I really don't understand the interest in Oleksiak. He's got another year at 4.6M. He turns 33 years old in December. He's left handed. I don't think he's been particular good either.
He can play both sides I believe, but you are right in that he hasn't been that good this year. Big guy who really isn't that physical. With his size, he should be out there laying people out near the net.. .he just doesn't do that.
 
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Not very mobile and hasn't been very good, but neither has Seattle.. but he's got 2 good things going for him, Size and a long stick... which suits how Treliving likes his d-man.

Very easily can see a deal like Tanev & Gorude for something like 1st/Robertson/5th round pick.

Trading a top pick/value for a guy that just got surgery would be peak Leafs. I do like Tanev but he's an expensive 4th liner..

Oleksiak could make sense if they retain 50%, especially if he can play RD well. I've only seen him play LD though.
 
Trading a top pick/value for a guy that just got surgery would be peak Leafs. I do like Tanev but he's an expensive 4th liner..

Oleksiak could make sense if they retain 50%, especially if he can play RD well.
Agree with you on Gourde. I didn't really like the idea of trading for him before, didn't hate it either... now I think it's a bad idea altogether, unless it's a deep discount given the risk, but why does Seattle do that?

Oleksiak doesn't seem to play well at all, either side right now... but he has played RD competently in the past. His stats are the worst of the Seattle D...
 
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Trading a top pick/value for a guy that just got surgery would be peak Leafs. I do like Tanev but he's an expensive 4th liner..

Oleksiak could make sense if they retain 50%, especially if he can play RD well. I've only seen him play LD though.
My thoughts exactly, edited my post to say his injury scares me..

Domi - Matthews - Marner
Knies - JT - Willy
McMan - Gourde - Jankrok
Tanev - Kampf - Loretnz

Looks awfully better then what we would be running if we didn't add any forwards at the deadline.
 
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