Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Trade Deadline Approaches

[ULF_55]

Like I said, I am not saying Tre is great bc he won nothing as Leafs GM but to say he done nothing or bad is ovoverblown.

Treliving was signed because he was available and is no threat to senior management.

He filled in needs with okay depth, Ekman-Larssen, Tanev, Lorentz level assets, over extending contract length.

With the performance of the defence, perhaps the money used should have been on a 1st. pairing defender rather than 2 middle pairing.

Can still save the future if he doesn't blow their assets on depth fodder.

 

[JEI]

Marner

Treliving was signed because he was available and is no threat to senior management.

He filled in needs with okay depth, Ekman-Larssen, Tanev, Lorentz level assets, over extending contract length.

With the performance of the defence, perhaps the money used should have been on a 1st. pairing defender rather than 2 middle pairing.

Can still save the future if he doesn't blow their assets on depth fodder.

Missed the boat on Matt Roy.

 

[Gabriel426]

Treliving was signed because he was available and is no threat to senior management.

He filled in needs with okay depth, Ekman-Larssen, Tanev, Lorentz level assets, over extending contract length.

With the performance of the defence, perhaps the money used should have been on a 1st. pairing defender rather than 2 middle pairing.

Can still save the future if he doesn't blow their assets on depth fodder.

Agree 100%.

 

[Skullz]

Saad had 26 goals last season, and we are thin on LW. If the Blues retained half, would we be interested? He does have another year left, so that is a little worrisome.

 

[aingefan]

Maple Leafs and Sharks emerging as potential trade partners

The Toronto Maple Leafs will be buyers before the trade deadline, and...

theleafsnation.com

Kunin and Walman? I don't hate this. Also, Walman is my buddy's 2nd cousin. This may result in some sort of perk for me.

I don’t mind that package so long as the return isn’t crippling. Starting with NickRob seems to make a lot of sense.

I still think Murphy might be a better fit, but I don’t see why you couldn’t find a way to flip Walman for Murphy somehow with a lil sweetener?

Also, if Pitt gets to selling why not look at Rakell? Or a Rakell and Acciari package? Start with Domi for salary, maybe Kampf appeals, maybe some Dubas draftees might appeal, and futures.

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Holmberg-Rackell-Nylander - PH for D
McMann-Tavares-Kunin - speed and tenacity for JT
Lorentz-Dewar-Acciari - lotsa bite

McCabe-Tanev
Reilly-Murphy
OEL-Timmins or Myers

Stolarz-Woll

Extras: Reaves/Patches/Benny/the other right D

I mean, you have to drain the cupboards abit to make the compensation work, maybe a little gymnastics to make the cap work, but that’s about as all in and deep a team you’d have for at least two runs. Have a pretty good chance to keep most of it together too.

You’d have the 2nd, Cowen, Grebs, Niemela, maybe one of the goalie, the first to work into the two deals….other picks for retention….but that’s a deep team.

 

[thusk]

Treliving was signed because he was available and is no threat to senior management.

He filled in needs with okay depth, Ekman-Larssen, Tanev, Lorentz level assets, over extending contract length.

With the performance of the defence, perhaps the money used should have been on a 1st. pairing defender rather than 2 middle pairing.

Can still save the future if he doesn't blow their assets on depth fodder.

So for you amount D available, who would be a best choice?

Montour he tried but decided he didn't want to play in Toronto

Pesce had no interest

Roy : at same salary, he would not come so would need at least a 6M... and Tanev had been overall better this season... so short term its not Roy who would change anything, probably in 4-5 years it will be different

 

[All Mod Cons]

Pretty sure everyone is telling you the same thing. Hughes and Makar are not moving.

I'd take a flier and go for 26 year old center ... Pettersson.

I think you could buy low on him, but it is a gamble.

? - Matthews - ?
? - Pettersson - ?
? - Tavares - ?

Again, it is a gamble.

What would an acceptable return for Vancouver be, in a Pettersson trade? This will require an unbelievable amount of creativity.

 

[Anthrax442]

Saad had 26 goals last season, and we are thin on LW. If the Blues retained half, would we be interested? He does have another year left, so that is a little worrisome.

Can they retain half his age too?

 

[LeafSteel]

So for you amount D available, who would be a best choice?

Montour he tried but decided he didn't want to play in Toronto

Pesce had no interest

Roy : at same salary, he would not come so would need at least a 6M... and Tanev had been overall better this season... so short term its not Roy who would change anything, probably in 4-5 years it will be different

Agree with everything here.

Ideally Treliving could have landed both Tanev and Roy instead of extending Liljegren and signing Hakanpaa.

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Roy
OEL-Timmins/Myer

That would have been an excellent defensive set.

As for this TDL, I disagree with the empty the cupboards/ swing for the fences. We have specific needs and are a team playing well.

We don’t need to stage the biggest, sexiest names to get better now.

We need 2RHD. Someone like Murphy will absolutely make us better and won’t strip us.

We need 2C/3C. Someone like Ryan Donato, Morgan Frost, Kunin, Krebs makes us better and won’t strip us.

Treliving has done well signing guys like Lorentz, Stolarz, and Tanev for nothing but money, and he’s made the team better.

Would it have been nice to snag Rantanan? Of course but it’s not realistic without Marner going the other way and this team needs to move away from paying for players set to be become UFA’s.

We need younger guys with term that have room to grow here.

As long as Treliving adds some value pieces that makes us better, I doubt consider the TDL “underwhelming”, and we don’t need league shattering moves.

We need smart, calculated moves that makes us better now, doesn’t cripple us for the future, gives us pieces that can be a part of the long term, and helps trim the fat off the roster for some of Treliving’s misses like Reaves.

Will it be easy? If it was easy, it would have been done already, but I have a lot more confidence in Treliving than I ever than I ever had in Doogas Howser.

Interested to see what Treliving can shake free and add by the TDL, and not expecting anything huge.

We have in place the personnel to go deeper than we have. Onus is on them to be better and get it done.

They’ve done nothing to merit making future crippling moves to try to win now because they have yet to show they can get it done. They need to add quality with term now and if they fail again, there has to be change.

 

[weems]

I was good with moving on from Dubas and was cool with the Treliving hiring but this deadline will really sway my opinion one way or the other on how good our current management is.

We are currently a pretty good team but I would say we're still not championship level, get through 4 tough playoff rounds against top competition quality.

Tanev and OEL have some real mileage on them and McCabe might not age the best with the way he plays, so our window to win with this current blueline isn't very long, so I think we need to make some real moves now especially when it looks like the league is very wide open.

Not saying we should empty the cupboards but we definitely need 1-2 quality additions if we want to win a cup.

 

[Rare Jewel]

There's 3 significant holes (imo) and very likely not enough tradable assets to fill them

 

[Nineteen67]

I realize this is close to smoking the crack pipe and all... but for S&G... I thought I'd see if the cap fit. It did.

Reality... nowhere near me at the moment... but hey..

Rielly, Marner, Minten (also from Vancouver) for Miller, Hughes and Boeser (50%).

Honestly, I don't really even want Miller on this team, it more started around the thought of... what if Hughes gets moved, and they just blow it all up and retool. This has been mentioned by some people on Twitter... not anyone with inside knowledge though.

I haven’t heard trades like this since storming normin stopped taking calls after midnight.


The Leafs don’t have a player I wouldn’t trade for Hughes - a legit #1 threat on D.

 

[Nineteen67]

There's 3 significant holes (imo) and very likely not enough tradable assets to fill them

3 holes, and they can’t trust the highly paid players

 

[thewave]

There's 3 significant holes (imo) and very likely not enough tradable assets to fill them

Dare I ask what they are?

 

[Rare Jewel]

Dare I ask what they are?

- Top 4 RD (this is a recording)
- Middle 6 C
- Top 9/3rd line scoring depth winger


I think management would argue they don't need another D, but with Rielly in poor form and Myers being used as his partner much too often for me that signals to me that they still need help there. Also, McCabe on his offside isn't ideal either IMO.

 

[SprDaVE]

There's 3 significant holes (imo) and very likely not enough tradable assets to fill them

No team is truly perfect. I think the center quality of the team is a bigger issue. We can't have Holmberg as the 2nd line center if JT or Matthews go down. Even healthy it's a choice of Domi Holmberg or Kampf. Minten has potential but he seems pretty vanilla too. It's bad.

The rest of the holes are hardly imperative to fix. We are loaded with wingers and defensively it's fine.

 

[thewave]

- Top 4 RD (this is a recording)
- Middle 6 C
- Top 9/3rd line scoring depth winger


I think management would argue they don't need another D, but with Rielly in poor form and Myers being used as his partner much too often for me that signals to me that they still need help there. Also, McCabe on his offside isn't ideal either IMO.

Rielly has been terrible and isn't going to cut it in the POs. I imagine that's who you are trying to address

Minten should actually fill one of those holes up.

Grebenkin is another that should help out somewhat. Cowan?

My big concern is the lack of desire Berube has to plug these holes from within and Tre as well. They aren't really being very proactive and the problems with depth have been apparent for a while nowm

 

[ToneDog]

3 holes, and they can’t trust the highly paid players

A #3C will help but that hole is pretty big. As many have asked, who is our Nick Paul that can score you two goals in a game #7? This team as a whole can't score two goals in a game #7.

Lots of smoke around Gourde and B Tanev. They would definitely help.

 

[Torontonian]

There's 3 significant holes (imo) and very likely not enough tradable assets to fill them

On a perfect team, they would fill:

3C
Top 6F
Right shot d-man.

They can fill two of those holes come the deadline fairly easily rental wise A top 6 winger is going to be harder to find, especially if they aren't willing to trade 1sts and prospects.

 

[Rare Jewel]

No team is truly perfect. I think the center quality of the team is a bigger issue. We can't have Holmberg as the 2nd line center if JT or Matthews go down. Even healthy it's a choice of Domi Holmberg or Kampf. Minten has potential but he seems pretty vanilla too. It's bad.

The rest of the holes are hardly imperative to fix.

No team is perfect I'd agree, and the C issue is mostly likely one they'll look at, but there are teams that are deeper and more balanced due to blue line than the Leafs are.

 

[thewave]

No team is perfect I'd agree, and the C issue is mostly likely one they'll look at, but there are teams that are deeper and more balanced due to blue line than the Leafs are.

We have accountability issues. You fix that and most of your concerns resolve themselves thereafter.

Reaves Rielly Domi Holmberg and on and on doing nothing all season. No messages are sent. Marner playing excessive amounts of cutesy hockey to pad stats, nothing done, no real changes and no comment.

If there was accountability the root issues would be sorted and be getting adressed right now. Rielly is still on the PP. The special teams are still underperforming. Coaches are changing and players are playing the same.

 

[SprDaVE]

No team is perfect I'd agree, and the C issue is mostly likely one they'll look at, but there are teams that are deeper and more balanced due to blue line than the Leafs are.

Maybe but it's a competent blue line. I would agree they could use a dynamic RHD upgrade but depth wise and quality wise it's alright. The Hakanpaa gamble was a bad one

 

[Rare Jewel]

On a perfect team, they would fill:

3C
Top 6F
Right shot d-man.

They can fill two of those holes come the deadline fairly easily rental wise A top 6 winger is going to be harder to find, especially if they aren't willing to trade 1sts and prospects.

I'll settle for a top 9 guy who's a gives better chance to score when either of the top two lines aren't on.


They'll never go for him, but when I see Daniel Sprong who's kind of famously has one of the best point/60 the last few years, being thrown around for late picks or on waivers, i do think "he can't hurt can he?" But supposedly he can't check his hat, so that's a no go for CB.

Drew O'Connor from Pit would be interesting option as well.

 

[thewave]

Maybe but it's a competent blue line. I would agree they could use a dynamic RHD upgrade but depth wise and quality wise it's alright. The Hakanpaa gamble was a bad one

With all due respect. You guys are glossing over the core issue of accountability on this team. It doesn't matter how many plugs you jam into the holes. The holes are not even being attempted to be fixed by basic coaching measures. It's accountability.

Lame duck coach. Not doing anything. What's happening with special teams. How can you change the coaches and get the same result there using the same players? How?

They are coaching themselves. That's the only answer.

 

[SprDaVE]

With all due respect. You guys are glossing over the core issue of accountability on this team. It doesn't matter how many plugs you jam into the holes. The holes are not even being attempted to be fixed by basic coaching measures. It's accountability.

Lame duck coach. Not doing anything. What's happening with special teams. How can you change the coaches and get the same result there using the same players? How?

They are coaching themselves. That's the only answer.

Truly cursed with nothing to do. Might as well sell it all off. Fire everyone. Maybe sell the team.