Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[Amadeus]

Bunkis last night proposed Rielly + Minten for JT Miller. Makes some sense but wishful thinking.

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

 

[ACC1224]

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

Wanted him for years, can't see why he'd be available though.

 

[ToneDog]

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

In fairness, Bunkis did say that they could then look for a puck carrying dman to fill Rielly's role. At this point it is 50/50 whether Rielly rediscovers his game. He was not very good a year ago either, just not this bad.

 

[sxvnert]

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

Other than the tbay series, rielly has been in a lull for five years.

 

[leafsfan5]

Bunkis last night proposed Rielly + Minten for JT Miller. Makes some sense but wishful thinking.

EF said Miller will likely want to only go to US teams

Also, Miller is beefing with EP40. I'd wager A LOT of money that our stars are more like Pettersson than they are like Miller. We will essentially re-create the same situation that exists in Vancouver, except we'll be stuck with an older and likely worse Miller than Vancouver currently is

 

[Mitch nylander]

Honestly my deadline wishlist is short and sweet:

1. A third line centre who can score, but also provide stability to our third line. Domi doesn't provide it.
2. A replacement for Hakanpaa, if he's not healthy.

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Ideas:

Spoiler: Coloring Legend

Red: I'd prefer we don't go dow that route.
Yellow: I'd be content
Green: I'd be really happy

Step 1: Third Line Center Options:
What I'm willing to package: 1-3 of the following - Nick Robertson, Pontus Holmberg, Ben Danford, Topi Niemela, Alex Steeves, Roni Hirvonen, and picks.
Keep: Cowan, Grebenkin, Minten, and the goalies

1 Year Rentals (Ranked By Expected Price):

1. Brock Nelson:
2. Mikael Granlund:
3. Yanni Gourde:
4. Jake Evans:

2 Year Rentals (Ranked by Expected Price):

1. Nick Schmaltz:
2. Scott Laughton:
3. J-G Pageau:
4. Alexander Wennberg:
5. Mikael Backlund:

Out of all the guys Brock Nelson, is quite easily my favourite. He's good on both sides of the puck. Has proven to be effective in the playoffs. 60 point guy. Price wouldn't be crazy.

Scott Laughton: I like the prospect of having him at 1.5M for 1/2 years (after retention). Definitely not as talented as others on the board, but he's cost-effective, physical, and agitating.

J-G Pageau: Has proven to be effective in the playoffs. His contract is bearable. He's a great penalty killer as well, leading the islanders. Also, one of the best face-off men in the league at 58%

Yellow Zone (Schmaltz, Gourde): Schmaltz is certainly the best on the board here, I just don't know if I could fathom the price of paying for somebody like that. Gourde: Well he is a pest, and a hard worker, he has taken some major steps back offensively and isn't as effective defensively as say a Pageau/Laughton.

Red Zone (the rest): Granlund - Excellent season, definitely a guy who can put up points. My issue, is that stylistically, he's piss poor defensively, and I don't love running a line with Domi and McMann along side of him. Wennberg - Just not worth his $, nor do I think he's a clear upgrade on Domi. Evans - Young is good, but again is really better than Kampf/Domi. Backlund - Last year he'd be my number 1 guy, but a big step back this year along with him aging might not be a good 2-year grab.


Step 2: Third Pairing Stability (RHD ONLY):
What I'm willing to package: 1-2 of of the following: Picks round 3-7, C-Tier Prospects (Tverberg, Kokkonen, Holinka, Villeneuve, Moldenhauer), Marshall Rifai, Conor Timmins

1-Year Rentals:

1. David Savard
2. Cody Ceci
3. Jeff Petry
4. Jan Rutta

2-Year Rentals:

1. Nick Jensen
2. Radko Gudas
3. Luke Schenn
4. Connor Clifton
5. Erik Gudbranson

Green -
David Savard: For a 1 year rental, you're getting a good defensive option who can be a big add on the PK, who plays smart simple hockey. He's essentially a secondary Tanev.
Radko Gudas: I know he's a very polarizing choice on this board. But at the end of the day, a guy with size, physicality, winning pedigree, seems almost like a no-brainer if he's willing to come here.
Conor Clifton: Physical, shot blocking defender who can skate well. While dimunitive in size, he plays twice his size. He's also only 29 - and has proven to be a mobile two-way d at lower levels.

Yellow -
Nick Jensen - I thinks he's talented, I just would be afraid of the cost. I also, don't think stylistically he's the greatest fit, as he's more of PMD with a little lack of physicality.
Cody Ceci - I think this is a low-risk, medium reward move. In a bottom pair role, he'd be reliable. He's sizeable, and has a surprisingly good shot. He was quite good in Pittsburgh, and looked better the less minute he played in Edmonton.

Red -
Luke Schenn - He's nowhere near the level he was, when he was here two years ago. Also that second year scares me.
Erik Gudbranson - Just too expensive from a dollar perspective. He also hasn't been healthy similar to Hakanpaa. He also gives me Roman Polak vibes with the hot potato puck movements.
Jeff Petry - I wouldn't be mad, but wouldn't really love it. A little too old at this point.
Jan Rutta - Stylistically a fit, but I'm unsure if he's a big upgrade on what we currently have.

 

[uncleben]

Near zero interest in Miller

Locked in at $8M until he's 37, and locker room problems on every team he's been on

 

[Anthrax442]

Honestly my deadline wishlist is short and sweet:

1. A third line centre who can score, but also provide stability to our third line. Domi doesn't provide it.
2. A replacement for Hakanpaa, if he's not healthy.

-----------------------------
Ideas:

Spoiler: Coloring Legend

Red: I'd prefer we don't go dow that route.
Yellow: I'd be content
Green: I'd be really happy

Step 1: Third Line Center Options:
What I'm willing to package: 1-3 of the following - Nick Robertson, Pontus Holmberg, Ben Danford, Topi Niemela, Alex Steeves, Roni Hirvonen, and picks.
Keep: Cowan, Grebenkin, Minten, and the goalies

1 Year Rentals (Ranked By Expected Price):

1. Brock Nelson:
2. Mikael Granlund:
3. Yanni Gourde:
4. Jake Evans:

2 Year Rentals (Ranked by Expected Price):

1. Nick Schmaltz:
2. Scott Laughton:
3. J-G Pageau:
4. Alexander Wennberg:
5. Mikael Backlund:

Out of all the guys Brock Nelson, is quite easily my favourite. He's good on both sides of the puck. Has proven to be effective in the playoffs. 60 point guy. Price wouldn't be crazy.

Scott Laughton: I like the prospect of having him at 1.5M for 1/2 years (after retention). Definitely not as talented as others on the board, but he's cost-effective, physical, and agitating.

J-G Pageau: Has proven to be effective in the playoffs. His contract is bearable. He's a great penalty killer as well, leading the islanders. Also, one of the best face-off men in the league at 58%

Yellow Zone (Schmaltz, Gourde): Schmaltz is certainly the best on the board here, I just don't know if I could fathom the price of paying for somebody like that. Gourde: Well he is a pest, and a hard worker, he has taken some major steps back offensively and isn't as effective defensively as say a Pageau/Laughton.

Red Zone (the rest): Granlund - Excellent season, definitely a guy who can put up points. My issue, is that stylistically, he's piss poor defensively, and I don't love running a line with Domi and McMann along side of him. Wennberg - Just not worth his $, nor do I think he's a clear upgrade on Domi. Evans - Young is good, but again is really better than Kampf/Domi. Backlund - Last year he'd be my number 1 guy, but a big step back this year along with him aging might not be a good 2-year grab.


Step 2: Third Pairing Stability (RHD ONLY):
What I'm willing to package: 1-2 of of the following: Picks round 3-7, C-Tier Prospects (Tverberg, Kokkonen, Holinka, Villeneuve, Moldenhauer), Marshall Rifai, Conor Timmins

1-Year Rentals:

1. David Savard
2. Cody Ceci
3. Jeff Petry
4. Jan Rutta

2-Year Rentals:

1. Nick Jensen
2. Radko Gudas
3. Luke Schenn
4. Connor Clifton
5. Erik Gudbranson

Green -
David Savard: For a 1 year rental, you're getting a good defensive option who can be a big add on the PK, who plays smart simple hockey. He's essentially a secondary Tanev.
Radko Gudas: I know he's a very polarizing choice on this board. But at the end of the day, a guy with size, physicality, winning pedigree, seems almost like a no-brainer if he's willing to come here.
Conor Clifton: Physical, shot blocking defender who can skate well. While dimunitive in size, he plays twice his size. He's also only 29 - and has proven to be a mobile two-way d at lower levels.

Yellow -
Nick Jensen - I thinks he's talented, I just would be afraid of the cost. I also, don't think stylistically he's the greatest fit, as he's more of PMD with a little lack of physicality.
Cody Ceci - I think this is a low-risk, medium reward move. In a bottom pair role, he'd be reliable. He's sizeable, and has a surprisingly good shot. He was quite good in Pittsburgh, and looked better the less minute he played in Edmonton.

Red -
Luke Schenn - He's nowhere near the level he was, when he was here two years ago. Also that second year scares me.
Erik Gudbranson - Just too expensive from a dollar perspective. He also hasn't been healthy similar to Hakanpaa. He also gives me Roman Polak vibes with the hot potato puck movements.
Jeff Petry - I wouldn't be mad, but wouldn't really love it. A little too old at this point.
Jan Rutta - Stylistically a fit, but I'm unsure if he's a big upgrade on what we currently have.

Nice breakdown. But when I saw Ceci's name I puked in my mouth a little and then i puked in my mouth a lot.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

We could realistically make an addition at the TDL and be fine, like if you somehow did Minten, Rielly + 3rd for Miller

Surely our FLA 2nd 2025 + something else that Dubas is familiar with like Timmins, Robertson, Niemela, Hirvonen, Moldenhauer etc etc (even if it takes 2) would land Marcus Pettersson.

Pettersson-Tanev
OEL-McCabe
Benoit-Myers/Timmins

Wanted him for years, can't see why he'd be available though.

I forget the source this week but previously SEA had resisted moving a roster defenseman at previous TDL but this year they might be more open to it.

Larsson just extended and Montour just signed in the off-season there

Next 2 up after that? Dunn or Oleksiak, I have to imagine they'd prefer to cash out on Oleksiak.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Makes us really bare defensively. Rielly is going through a lull but he'll get better. I think we need to add a D-man who is more effective on the PP. We need someone like a Vince Dunn.

He's been bad for 2 seasons this isn't new

 

[PromisedLand]

how can we get ROR and Rasmus Anderson and make the cap work?

this is what i'd like to see

Domi-Matthews-McMann
Knies-ROR-Nylander
Patches-Tavares-Marner
Robertson/XXX-Dewar-Lorentz

McCabe-Anderson
Reilly-Tanev
OEL-Myers


Stolarz
Woll

Trade->Kampf, Robertson(?), Holmberg, Timmins, (TOTAL OUT: about 5.1AAV)
LTIR->Jarnkrok, Hakanpaa,


ROR: 4.5AAV (2 more years after this season remaining on contract)
Anderson: 4.55AAV (one more year after this season remaining on contract)

We have about 1.2AAV deadline cap space according to puckpedia

we need to find about 3 to 4 AAV from somewhere....

 

[WTFMAN99]

(Summary / thoughts / explanation at the bottom - please read that at least before you carve it up. I don't mind, the odds of guessing even a single transaction is like 1 / 10000000)

Tavares contract is 2 years 6M per year, full NMC but defers 1.5M per year to artificially lower the cap hit. The remainder except for the league minimum salary both years is paid entirely in signing bonuses.

Marner contract is actually 13M per year for 8 years but he's going to defer 1.07M per year to again artificially lower the cap hit. Even without deferring, he's the highest paid winger in the league. It will be a full NMC and again, his salary is basically in signing bonuses except for the mandatory league minimum.

The other transactions could take place anywhere between this upcoming TDL or at the draft.

Trade assessment

Toronto might not be able to do a simple trade back in the draft to get the deal done...hard to know if Seattle is willing to trade Dunn, it was rumored Seattle is looking to shake up their D but Toronto needs to entice them to do it.

The Kampf trade is pretty boring but New Jersey is needing 3C and 4C help, Keefe's familiarity with Kampf could make it an easy deal.

Hartman hasn't lit it up in Minnesota and has bounced between centre and right wing but Toronto would definitely be trying him at 3C, he's a right shot. Minnesota has an opening on their 3rd pairing LD next year and an extra pick is always good. They also need bottom 6 offense.

Trotz gets a chance to get some character/roleplayers that he's familiar with (at least Jarnkrok) and the cost is minimal.

Dubas gets a young RD and bottom 6 guy, Timmins has had some frustrating issues lately with Toronto but he's been solid this year, Dubas wants young roster players rather than picks apparently. This could be negotiated backwards to a 4th if need be.

 

[sxvnert]

- Trouba (50%) for 2026 1st + Jarnkrok ($2,100,000) + Kampf ($2,400,000)
- 2nd/3rd/prospect for (25%) - third team

McCabe Tanev
OEL Trouba ($2,000,000 - 75%)
Rielly Myers

 

[Menzinger]

Kampf to Jersey is something to follow up on, even in the off-season.

Kampf was Keefe's guy. Wouldn't get anything other than likely future considerations in return, but it would be worth it from the Leafs pov

 

[Dekes For Days]

It would be nice to hear him honestly answer the question, which we won't ever hear. Is he using the handy "Toronto market" refrain to avoid calling out players or coaches or ...?

He already gave an honest answer numerous times. He can't control that some want controversy and won't accept the answer.