Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

ER89

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Is he what we need?
If hakanpa is done, wouldn’t banning be a better fit or is he completely done at 30?
I think Myers will help all the ogres on the defense we stack up with like Benoit move the puck. He's a legit six imo.
 
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I have to be honest after watching Cowan play on Team Canada, Im in favour of trading him while his value is high. He seems like more of what we have, plays selfish and tries to do everything himself.
If we could bring in a good second line C I'm all for throwing him into the package
 

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Gourde makes more and has half the production of Granlund.

Are you sure you have the right players here?

1-Utah can retain 50% of gourde contract, SJ can't retain any salary

2- When playoff start, number of pts during regular season doesn't matter anymore. Its not the team with highest level of skill who win but the most complete team. To get a complete team, you need to get the right complementary player

Do you really know what's you've got with Granlund?!?! A Better defensive version of Max Domi with less grit... Don't know how an other playmaker would make leafs much better and not be a complete waste of asset... sorry i don't see at all...

Do you know what's gourde bring? A warrior. A guy who will give you everything he had on every shift, will win battle for you, will battle pretty hard in front of the net. A guy you will send when the momemtum is against you and will find a way to bring back some emotion and momemtum in your side. A guy who will fight no matter whay.

If you're only watch stats and don't watch what player bring to your team... So yes for me achoice between granlund and gourde is pretty easy to do, granlund is just an awful fit for a team like toronto
 

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I have to be honest after watching Cowan play on Team Canada, Im in favour of trading him while his value is high. He seems like more of what we have, plays selfish and tries to do everything himself.
If we could bring in a good second line C I'm all for throwing him into the package
Not opposed to it but WJC is perhaps the hardest place to judge player potential. So many top tier prospects fail and so many nobodies succeed. I’ve been underwhelmed with TeamCan for years and wouldn’t be opposed to trading Cowan- imo his skating limits his upside. I’d keep Minten however.
 

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1-Utah can retain 50% of gourde contract, SJ can't retain any salary

2- When playoff start, number of pts during regular season doesn't matter anymore. Its not the team with highest level of skill who win but the most complete team. To get a complete team, you need to get the right complementary player

Do you really know what's you've got with Granlund?!?! A Better defensive version of Max Domi with less grit... Don't know how an other playmaker would make leafs much better and not be a complete waste of asset... sorry i don't see at all...

Do you know what's gourde bring? A warrior. A guy who will give you everything he had on every shift, will win battle for you, will battle pretty hard in front of the net. A guy you will send when the momemtum is against you and will find a way to bring back some emotion and momemtum in your side. A guy who will fight no matter whay.

If you're only watch stats and don't watch what player bring to your team... So yes for me achoice between granlund and gourde is pretty easy to do, granlund is just an awful fit for a team like toronto
Are you getting a time machine as part of the trade?
 

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He's a dime a dozen fringe NHL defender
You can pick them up cheap in UFA every single year

I don't see why we're rushing to resign him now

I am guessing they want to get the money thing in order for depth before Marner. Maybe it's better to go into negotiations where we have a set amount and limited flexibility.
 
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I have to be honest after watching Cowan play on Team Canada, Im in favour of trading him while his value is high. He seems like more of what we have, plays selfish and tries to do everything himself.
If we could bring in a good second line C I'm all for throwing him into the package

You've concluded that after a handful of games? You could say the same with every prospect on the team, some look outright bad. I really don't understand where this narrative that he's selfish comes from.

Marner also didn't have the best WJCs at the time and look at him now.

We need more Cowans, not less. A lot of potential, highly competitive and the bigger thing is cost controlled. If you trade him, it better be a for a long-term option that will contribute a lot.
 
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If you are trading for a forward it needs to be a top 6 difference making winger if Minten ends up 3C.

Then it makes sense to push McMann down to the 4th line. He also becomes top 9 insurance. Remember Patches is one of your top 9.

I am thinking Tuch, Palmieri, Giroux etc.
Robertson is obvously thrown into this deal because he will be completely expendable once everyone is healthy.

Maybe Dewar is thrown into the deal too because you need to do a 2 for 1 move because of the roster crunch when everyone is healthy.
With the way the Senators have been playing as of late, I can't imagine that they would even consider moving Giroux.
 
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You've concluded that after a handful of games?

He has played a much more selfish game all year. It probably sucks going back to Jr after almost making the NHL a year ago. A lot of guys try to prove themselves in counterproductive ways.

I really don't understand where this narrative that he's selfish comes from.

It comes from his play this season. I don’t think it’s a permanent thing.

We need more Cowans, not less. A lot of potential, highly competitive and the bigger thing is cost controlled. If you trade him, it better be a for a long-term option that will contribute a lot.

It’s a bit of both. We do need more cheap talent, but we don’t need more small skill on the wing.
 
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When Cowan turns into a Konecny type player, we’ll be kicking ourselves lol.

I’m open to moving Cowan + but it needs to be a young center such as either McTavish or Cozens.

Call me crazy,

To Toronto: Mason McTavish + Frank Vatrano (50% retained)
To Anaheim: Easton Cowan + Nick Robertson + David Kampf + 2026 1st Rounder + 2025 2nd Rounder
 

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He has played a much more selfish game all year. It probably sucks going back to Jr after almost making the NHL a year ago. A lot of guys try to prove themselves in counterproductive ways.



It comes from his play this season. I don’t think it’s a permanent thing.



It’s a bit of both. We do need more cheap talent, but we don’t need more small skill on the wing.
He may be small but he doesn’t play small. He is physical and often engaging contact.
Most people would love to add Travis Konecny if he was available and no one would call him big but he plays bigger than his size just like Cowan.

Toronto is actually one of the biggest teams in the league, it just doesn’t feel like it because we don’t have enough that play that way. But you think size is a reason we should trade a prospect who does.

I’m open to trading Cowan if I think it improves the team and helps us win when it really matters but I’m definitely not interested in doing it just because of his height
 

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You've concluded that after a handful of games? You could say the same with every prospect on the team, some look outright bad. I really don't understand where this narrative that he's selfish comes from.

Marner also didn't have the best WJCs at the time and look at him now.

We need more Cowans, not less. A lot of potential, highly competitive and the bigger thing is cost controlled. If you trade him, it better be a for a long-term option that will contribute a lot.

Maybe a better time to buy than sell then, eh?

Some pretty good prospect there, maybe some teams have soured on them and you can pick them up for a song?

No? Okay, just wishful thinking.
 
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When Cowan turns into a Konecny type player, we’ll be kicking ourselves lol.

I’m open to moving Cowan + but it needs to be a young center such as either McTavish or Cozens.

Call me crazy,

To Toronto: Mason McTavish + Frank Vatrano (50% retained)
To Anaheim: Easton Cowan + Nick Robertson + David Kampf + 2026 1st Rounder + 2025 2nd Rounder

Crazy ...

Yeah, don't think that would get it done, even though McTavish isn't blowing anyone away, he's 21 (22, January 30th.), but playing over 16 minutes as a center.

He has to be re-signed, but his play isn't earning him a homerun deal at this point.

If Tavares money could cover McTavish and Tavares starting next year?

I guess then you have to question whether Minten is expendable if you're running, Matthews/Tavares/McTavish as your 3 centers?
 

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Crazy ...

Yeah, don't think that would get it done, even though McTavish isn't blowing anyone away, he's 21 (22, January 30th.), but playing over 16 minutes as a center.

He has to be re-signed, but his play isn't earning him a homerun deal at this point.

If Tavares money could cover McTavish and Tavares starting next year?

I guess then you have to question whether Minten is expendable if you're running, Matthews/Tavares/McTavish as your 3 centers?
I don’t think Minten is ready to step in and be a cup contenders third line center just yet. I would ease him into the NHL and give him a year as the fourth line center. In a year and a half, I would assume we’d be making the transition of JT to the wing if he’s still with the team.
 
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When Cowan turns into a Konecny type player, we’ll be kicking ourselves lol.

I’m open to moving Cowan + but it needs to be a young center such as either McTavish or Cozens.

Call me crazy,

To Toronto: Mason McTavish + Frank Vatrano (50% retained)
To Anaheim: Easton Cowan + Nick Robertson + David Kampf + 2026 1st Rounder + 2025 2nd Rounder

The best thing to do with a bluechip prospect is invest in their potential and correct whatever perceived flaws through player development so you can still enjoy some ELC years while reserving the right to maybe move them later on... high risk prospect for prospect trades involving picks just adds more names to the mix and increases your chance of getting burned.
 

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Mason Mctavish should be our #1 target if in fact he's available.

To Toronto-
Mctavish
Vatrano

To Ducks-
Cowan
Robertson
Kampf
Timmins
1st Round Pick

To Toronto-
Murphy

To Hawks-
Benoit
Holmberg
2nd Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Vatrano-Tavares-Marner
Mcmann-McTavish-Nylander
Pacioretty-Dewar-Lorentz

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Murphy
OEL-Myers
 

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