Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[ACC1224]

Why not marner he needs a deal anyway

Guess it would depend on what they would add. I’d prefer the Leafs receive the better player than give up the better player.

Very little chance Marner would first waive to go there and then extend.

Preference would obviously be to not move either.

 

[ToneDog]

Why not marner he needs a deal anyway

Asking for Willie. Did you type that with a straight face?

 

[Legion34]

It would have to be Nylander going the other way

I would do this to balance our needs provided we signed Marner and we know McDavid isn’t coming


Knies. Matthews. Domi.
Mcmann. Petterson. Marner
Patch. Tavares. Robertson etc
Dewar. Kampf. Lorenz.


Future of

Knies. Matthews Marner
Robertson petterson. Cowan
Grebs. Minten. Xxxxx
Dewar. Quillan

would need a wing upgrade but it’s much easier to get a top 6 wing than C

If that’s available I do it tomorrow.

 

[Voodoo Child]

They'd have to be idiots to trade Willy for Casper the Friendly Swede, no shot.

 

[Legion34]

They'd have to be idiots to trade Willy for Casper the Friendly Swede, no shot.

We need a 2 C. We tried to turn Willy into a C and he can’t.
We have tons of wingers now and in the future

Marner/knies/cowan/domi/robbie/grebs/mcmann all have top 9 potential.

We have 1 C worth anything. Minten as 3 C is probably best case scenario
That would be ideal.

 

[Torontonian]

We need a 2 C. We tried to turn Willy into a C and he can’t.
We have tons of wingers now and in the future

Marner/knies/cowan/domi/robbie/grebs/mcmann all have top 9 potential.

We have 1 C worth anything. Minten as 3 C is probably best case scenario
That would be ideal.

Toronto most defiantly should not try to run two 11m centerman again. We are just about to get out of that situation. I'd also take Marner + Lesser centerman then Petterson + lesser winger. Marner IMO is the better player.

Side note, if Vancouver is trading Petterson over Miller, they are in big trouble.

 

[Kiwi]

The only way it works is Nylander + to Vancouver and I seriously doubt Nylander will waive his NMC

 

[Legion34]

Toronto most defiantly should not try to run two 11m centerman again. We are just about to get out of that situation. I'd also take Marner + Lesser centerman then Petterson + lesser winger. Marner IMO is the better player.

Side note, if Vancouver is trading Petterson over Miller, they are in big trouble.

Should we try two 11 million wingers?

 

[Torontonian]

Should we try two 11 million wingers?

It's more feasible running two 11 million wingers (one who is better then Petterson and the other whose slightly worse) and a 13m centerman then running four players making over 11m each. (I'm on team resign Marner, as you don't let talent like that walk and leave for nothing).

Toronto best days are ahead of them when they suddenly are able to gain an extra 5.5m from Tavares contract (assuming he's resigning around 6m to 6.5m) and a expected big jump in the cap.

 

[thewave]

Toronto most defiantly should not try to run two 11m centerman again. We are just about to get out of that situation. I'd also take Marner + Lesser centerman then Petterson + lesser winger. Marner IMO is the better player.

Side note, if Vancouver is trading Petterson over Miller, they are in big trouble.

They are already in blow it up trouble. Miller is 31

 

[cyris]

Toronto most defiantly should not try to run two 11m centerman again. We are just about to get out of that situation. I'd also take Marner + Lesser centerman then Petterson + lesser winger. Marner IMO is the better player.

Side note, if Vancouver is trading Petterson over Miller, they are in big trouble.

I really don’t get what Vancouver is doing here.
If it’s coming down to having to choose between JT miller and Pettersson you keep the 26 year old not the 31 year old that will be 32 by the end of the season.

Both player are streaky and have bouts of inconsistency so it isn’t like JT has an advantage there. And Pettersson isn’t the first teammate Miller hasn’t gotten along with.

 

[Dreakmur]

It's more feasible running two 11 million wingers (one who is better then Petterson and the other whose slightly worse) and a 13m centerman then running four players making over 11m each.

Wing is by far the least impactful position. It is moronic to stack that part of the roster at the expense of far more important positions.

I'm on team resign Marner, as you don't let talent like that walk and leave for nothing).

In a salary cap world, where cap space is an asset, players never leave with nothing in return.

Toronto best days are ahead of them when they suddenly are able to gain an extra 5.5m from Tavares contract (assuming he's resigning around 6m to 6.5m) and a expected big jump in the cap.

That 5.5 is already entirely taken by the already signed Woll and McCabe contracts. The increased cap gets largely taken by the upcoming raises to Knies and Marner.

 

[ToneDog]

It's more feasible running two 11 million wingers (one who is better then Petterson and the other whose slightly worse) and a 13m centerman then running four players making over 11m each. (I'm on team resign Marner, as you don't let talent like that walk and leave for nothing).

Toronto best days are ahead of them when they suddenly are able to gain an extra 5.5m from Tavares contract (assuming he's resigning around 6m to 6.5m) and a expected big jump in the cap.

One of those 2 $11m wingers is making $11.5m and the other wants close to $14m. Petey the C @ $11.6m fits better under our cap than a $13m soft winger who disappears when the going gets tough.

 

[Torontonian]

Wing is by far the least impactful position. It is moronic to stack that part of the roster at the expense of far more important positions.



In a salary cap world, where cap space is an asset, players never leave with nothing in return.



That 5.5 is already entirely taken by the already signed Woll and McCabe contracts. The increased cap gets largely taken by the upcoming raises to Knies and Marner.

1. I agree center is more important, but player A is going to cost you multiple pieces to get (roster player + prospects + picks). Where Player B who is better and plays an elite two way game is going to cost you 2.5m to 3m in capspace only. It's not like the player we would be losing is one dimensional winger.

2. Cap is only an asset if used properly and efficiently. That's hard to do when mostly every team overpays for almost every free agent. We have experienced this first hand with Tavares.

3. That is true.

One of those 2 $11m wingers is making $11.5m and the other wants close to $14m. Petey the C @ $11.6m fits better under our cap than a $13m soft winger who disappears when the going gets tough.

I do not think he makes over the captain and better player at 13.25m. Somewhere in between 11.5m and 13.25m. Which is only 2.5m extra on what we are paying now.

 

[ToneDog]

1. I agree center is more important, but player A is going to cost you multiple pieces to get (roster player + prospects + picks). Where Player B who is better and plays an elite two way game is going to cost you 2.5m to 3m in capspace only. It's not like the player we would be losing is one dimensional winger.

2. Cap is only an asset if used properly and efficiently. That's hard to do when mostly every team overpays for almost every free agent. We have experienced this first hand with Tavares.

3. That is true.


I do not think he makes over the captain and better player at 13.25m. Somewhere in between 11.5m and 13.25m. Which is only 2.5m extra on what we are paying now.

According to Mirtle if $12.8m gets it done, a deal would have been done. I'd gladly trade him for Petey and cost certainty.

 

[All Mod Cons]

What if we just add Pettersson to the core 4? Surely we can get 5 x 11+ mil players under the cap?

 

[WTFMAN99]

According to Mirtle if $12.8m gets it done, a deal would have been done. I'd gladly trade him for Petey and cost certainty.

I'd like to see how the playoffs go, if he does well to great, I would consider an 8 year deal at 12.5M-13M AAV real money but he would need to defer to artificially lower it to 11.5M on our cap.

Take it or leave it.

13M x 8 = 104M

104M / 7 = 14.85M

Someone going to offer him 14.85M?

The Leafs need to stop bidding against themselves.

 

[LeafSteel]

It would have to be Nylander going the other way

Why is it unthinkable that Marner won’t waive an expiring NMC yet you put the guy who just reupped, who also has a NMC?

Very one-dimensional takes when it comes to Marner.

Absolutely no objectivity man, and it’s beyond old now.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm not sure why anyone would give up Marner or Nylander for Pettersson. People already are on the razors edge with Nylander for some reason, they'd lose their minds watching Pettersson.

If for whatever reason Marner walks, then you use the money via free agency and maybe don't spend every available dollar you can.

 

[LeafSteel]

Someone get Lou drunk and figure out how to get:

Mayfield
Nelson
Czikas

Many thanks!

 

[SprDaVE]

Someone get Lou drunk and figure out how to get:

Mayfield
Nelson
Czikas

Many thanks!

I hope the Leafs can take advantage before Lou gets canned.

Zero reason to want Cizikas with his contract though. I'd be a lot more interested in Pageau.

 

[ACC1224]

Why is it unthinkable that Marner won’t waive an expiring NMC yet you put the guy who just reupped, who also has a NMC?

Very one-dimensional takes when it comes to Marner.

Absolutely no objectivity man, and it’s beyond old now.

You think a player like EP is going to return a pending UFA?
Try and think a bit before the froth

 

[arso40]

You think a player like EP is going to return a pending UFA?
Try and think a bit before the froth

sign and trade

 

[Legion34]

This works somehow. I would take zibby for sure and he has a NMC that limits
His value.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Petterson as in the guy on pace for a 20 goal 70-some point season?