Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

Does O’Rielly make the Leafs better?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 57.1%
  • No

    Votes: 24 38.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .

Sypher04

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IF Cozens were available and acquired, I still don’t think the endgame should be moving JT to the wing.

Matthews
Cozens
Tavares

Down the middle.
Put Domi and Knies with Matthews
Put McMann and Nylander with Cozens
Put Pacioretty and Marner with JT

Or something like this. Not married to the specifics
 
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TMLAM34

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You’re going to be paying a premium for Cozens, and I’m fine with that. You’re probably looking at Cowan, 1st and a roster player.
 

thusk

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Don’t we have a 23 man roster right now? Don’t we only technically need 20?

20 man roster come with disadvantage like get an injury last minute on the road, you're in trouble... you cant keep your depht because most of them need to go on waiver...

Dubas used it all the time of most of the time it was pretty trash...

2- Do a 7,1M 3rd line center is really how leafs need to use their money...
 

Kiwi

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Funny enough, if you move Kampf and Robertson, demote or trade Reaves, run a 21 man roster, it actually works. Also Hakanpaa and Jarnkrok either LTIR, or traded.

Note, that is Cozens on the roster. I ran the numbers just to see, not that I think it's realistic.
I was thinking about it long to medium term rather than just this season, this season is a b***h but next season looked brutal

Even with a sizable cap jump
 

LeafParade

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I was thinking about it long to medium term rather than just this season, this season is a b***h but next season looked brutal

Even with a sizable cap jump

This is why I proposed Tuch at 50% + Krebs. Combined they would be 3.825 M this year and next.
There should be another major cap jump after next year.

Just not sure how much this would cost.

But Cozens at 7.1 long-term seems quite a problem and the Sabres are not going to give up someone signed long-term easily.
 

Gabriel426

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I’m a believer that the powerplay should be split, so I think under that consideration it’d be easy enough to get someone who can help. But obviously unless they go to a split unit it’s a taller task
I am with you 100% on that.
What I didn’t like about Keefe was the fact that nomatter how bad the PP was, he never even tried to split the unit.
 
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thusk

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I am with you 100% on that.
What I didn’t like about Keefe was the fact that nomatter how bad the PP was, he never even tried to split the unit.


the JT-Nylander-Marner- Knies-Riwelly unit worked pretty well when Matthews was hurt

Why not try to create something else with Matthews alongside exeemple domi- OEL- Pacioretty- Robertson
 

dangomon

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IF Cozens were available and acquired, I still don’t think the endgame should be moving JT to the wing.

Matthews
Cozens
Tavares

Down the middle.
Put Domi and Knies with Matthews
Put McMann and Nylander with Cozens
Put Pacioretty and Marner with JT

Or something like this. Not married to the specifics
Why are we still doing this? We’re watching Tavares put up, better than, 2C numbers and we’re all looking for a way to reduce his role. Hes a 2C at worst and would still be a viable 1C on a lesser team.

If we trade for Cozens he’s either a winger or the 3C, not JT.
 

Sypher04

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Why are we still doing this? We’re watching Tavares put up, better than, 2C numbers and we’re all looking for a way to reduce his role. Hes a 2C at worst and would still be a viable 1C on a lesser team.

If we trade for Cozens he’s either a winger or the 3C, not JT.

That’s not what I’m doing, I can’t speak for others. I agree that he is a 2C and I’ve argued against others who have said otherwise.

The point of my post was 3 balanced lines of offense keeping JT in the middle instead of on the wing (which wastes some of his best assets). In fact, I have JT with the best winger on the team; that’s not reducing his role.
 
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MarMarSab3

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IF Cozens were available and acquired, I still don’t think the endgame should be moving JT to the wing.

Matthews
Cozens
Tavares

Down the middle.
Put Domi and Knies with Matthews
Put McMann and Nylander with Cozens
Put Pacioretty and Marner with JT

Or something like this. Not married to the specifics
Love this
 
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TMLAM34

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You also have to think moving forward, how long can JT keep this kind of production going given his age. Cozens gives you a solid second line center for the foreseeable future.
 

Stephen

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Trading for a 2C makes sense, even if they plan on extending Tavares. Free agency options next summer are slim. And it would ease the burden of giving up the team's 1st next year or someone like Danford

Giving up Danford seems like an acceptable price for doing business if that means we keep Cowan and Minten.
 
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