Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

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Can Grebenkin play LW? I know there’s a Russian tendency to play on your off wing but the lineup could look great if he could.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Grebenkin - Minten/3C trade - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - XXXX

Either use assets to upgrade on Domi or Minten but otherwise each line in the top 9 could have size, playmaking, scoring , defensively responsibility and an elite level talent.
Doesn’t matter cause Willy can play left wing
 
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I think Treliving needs to start creating some cap space here. While it won't be easy, he needs to move on from Reaves, Kampf, Jarnkrok and Robertson. All 4 players have been replaced internally and don't bring anything to this team. Robertson might be the only one with value but if you need to add future picks to move them, then do so. If not, waivers they go.
 
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Can Grebenkin play LW? I know there’s a Russian tendency to play on your off wing but the lineup could look great if he could.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Grebenkin - Minten/3C trade - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - XXXX

Either use assets to upgrade on Domi or Minten but otherwise each line in the top 9 could have size, playmaking, scoring , defensively responsibility and an elite level talent.

Not sure Minten can handle a full season yet, but he impressed last night. Especially late in the game on the 2-1 where he pressured from behind. Looked to have good wheels and may have been the reason that 2-1 went no where.

Also, besides the physical play I though Grebenkin played well in his own zone, and possibly prevented a goal against with his dive stick check that knocked the puck away from the half open net.

My concern is the deployment of Domi. Has Domi been playing injured from the start of the season?
 

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Can Grebenkin play LW? I know there’s a Russian tendency to play on your off wing but the lineup could look great if he could.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Grebenkin - Minten/3C trade - Nylander
Lorentz - Kampf - XXXX

Either use assets to upgrade on Domi or Minten but otherwise each line in the top 9 could have size, playmaking, scoring , defensively responsibility and an elite level talent.
I like what you've posted for lines. I'm still going after Mathieu Olivier for that spot on the 4th line. Laughton if Minten isn't a solution. Allegedly Grebenkin can play either wing spot. He shoots Left... Nylander Right, so it should work.

Not sure Minten can handle a full season yet, but he impressed last night. Especially late in the game on the 2-1 where he pressured from behind. Looked to have good wheels and may have been the reason that 2-1 went no where.

Also, besides the physical play I though Grebenkin played well in his own zone, and possibly prevented a goal against with his dive stick check that knocked the puck away from the half open net.

My concern is the deployment of Domi. Has Domi been playing injured from the start of the season?

Let's hope Domi's lack of production is just a slow start and injury related. I like what The Podium suggested for lines, if we think he will get back to his second half last year.

Minten we will just have to see.....
 
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I think Treliving needs to start creating some cap space here. While it won't be easy, he needs to move on from Reaves, Kampf, Jarnkrok and Robertson. All 4 players have been replaced internally and don't bring anything to this team. Robertson might be the only one with value but if you need to add future picks to move them, then do so. If not, waivers they go.

What do we think we need cap space for though? Jarnkrok we can't really move while he's out, and he isn't taking cap space anyway. Kampf... why are we in a rush to move him out? Robertson and Reaves, sure....
 

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What do we think we need cap space for though? Jarnkrok we can't really move while he's out, and he isn't taking cap space anyway. Kampf... why are we in a rush to move him out? Robertson and Reaves, sure....
Ideally, we get 3rd line center who has already another year on his contract to allow Minten to continue to develop his game. My target would be Scott Laughton.

As for moving on from Kampf, last night's game was a perfect example on why we don't need a 2.4 million dollar 4th line center. Holmberg, Dewar, and Lorentz are all capable of playing center, all 3 also can PK.
 

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Ideally, we get 3rd line center who has already another year on his contract to allow Minten to continue to develop his game. My target would be Scott Laughton.

As for moving on from Kampf, last night's game was a perfect example on why we don't need a 2.4 million dollar 4th line center. Holmberg, Dewar, and Lorentz are all capable of playing center, all 3 also can PK.

Here's your 4th. line.
Lorentz-Dewar-Holmberg: ~$3mm.
 
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Ideally, we get 3rd line center who has already another year on his contract to allow Minten to continue to develop his game. My target would be Scott Laughton.

As for moving on from Kampf, last night's game was a perfect example on why we don't need a 2.4 million dollar 4th line center. Holmberg, Dewar, and Lorentz are all capable of playing center, all 3 also can PK.

I've advocated for Laughton as well. The question that now presents us... is Minten actually ready, or does he need to develop more? If not, I'm all in with you on Laughton.

Holmberg was ok last night in many respects. Good defensively, good at draws... terrible at doing much with the puck other than skating into the Dzone and giving it away. Nothing happening for him offensively, though credit where credit is due, he did create the opportunity for the EN goal.

Dewar is crap at faceoffs. He had some good energy last night, but I'm not sure he's the answer for anything. Lorentz I like as a winger.

Yes, Kampf is expensive at $2.4, but so far this year he has been a better hockey player than Holmberg.... the question being, what do we need that cap space for? It's not stopping us from getting Laughton, or Olivier, or both.... We have the cap space to acquire both of them, if we send out Reaves and Robertson, and Holmberg, Minten, Grebs go to the minors. That's with a 22 man roster.

However, if Minten sticks... I don't mind moving Kampf out, and Laughton in... having Laughton as a $3mil 4C... because that makes for a very strong lineup.

Here's your 4th. line.
Lorentz-Dewar-Holmberg: ~$3mm.
Holmberg isn't the physicality I want out of that spot. Replace him with Mathieu Olivier.
 

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I think Treliving needs to start creating some cap space here. While it won't be easy, he needs to move on from Reaves, Kampf, Jarnkrok and Robertson. All 4 players have been replaced internally and don't bring anything to this team. Robertson might be the only one with value but if you need to add future picks to move them, then do so. If not, waivers they go.
Brad knows what he's doing.

How many times this season has the fanbase shat themselves about the impending cap catastrophe? And yet here we are. 7 forwards down and still chugging along.

We're not dealing with Kyle Dubas here.
 

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Brad knows what he's doing.

How many times this season has the fanbase shat themselves about the impending cap catastrophe? And yet here we are. 7 forwards down and still chugging along.

We're not dealing with Kyle Dubas here.

Understanding that our Salary Cap guy is Brandon Pridham, and has been on the job since 2014.
 
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Avilaj07

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Brad knows what he's doing.

How many times this season has the fanbase shat themselves about the impending cap catastrophe? And yet here we are. 7 forwards down and still chugging along.

We're not dealing with Kyle Dubas here.
I'm not shatting on anyone but to act like our cap isn't an issue, well then you must not be familiar with how the cap works. The only reason we've been able to juggle all these moves is because you currently have 3 players on the LTIR. Once these players are healthy, we're going to be in some serious cap crunch and have to make moves. So why wait until then when teams know you're desperate, as opposed to getting ahead of it and making the moves now if you can.
 

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I'm not shatting on anyone but to act like our cap isn't an issue, well then you must not be familiar with how the cap works. The only reason we've been able to juggle all these moves is because you currently have 3 players on the LTIR. Once these players are healthy, we're going to be in some serious cap crunch and have to make moves. So why wait until then when teams know you're desperate, as opposed to getting ahead of it and making the moves now if you can.
Probably because they already have a deal or two in place if they need to make space.
 

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