Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

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Kasperi has Robertson stats ...

If I could get the right asset back I would deal Robby and add Kap. Based on last year in two leagues I thought there was a reasonable chance Robertson could break out if he could just stay healthy. Its early but I am thinking that won't happen under Berube. With his trade request earlier it doesn't seem like he wants to just put his head down and push, and the bounces haven't forced the coach to rely on him more.

Nick is a top 9 guy but they don't have the centers to roll three scoring lines. If they leave him with decent forwards I think he will produce as he did last year in his minutes with Domi and Jarn. Right now the shot metrics are not in sync with the actual scoring, so is he in the dog house with the coach because he isn't leaving a mark?

I don't want him gone for a 3rd but if any more than that and Berube has no use for him, I would do something. Having said that, he is getting more TOI than last year so obviously not getting the Lily treatment. Its just that I think if he rots on the bench, Kap can do that just as well and maybe some of that 2018-19 magic can come back.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

If olivier is available, more than half the league will be interested. I dont know if the Jackets want to trade a player like that because he's a leader and one of their only tough guys they have

Couldn't agree more, his value is going to skyrocket because of how many suitors will be after him I think. Reminds me of the over-payments of like.... Hagel and Jeannot valuations but hopefully not that insane haha.

 

[SprDaVE]

Couldn't agree more, his value is going to skyrocket because of how many suitors will be after him I think. Reminds me of the over-payments of like.... Hagel and Jeannot valuations but hopefully not that insane haha.

Funny enough I'd be very interested in signing Jeannot in free agency if makes it.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

Morgan Frost scratched today. Wouldn't mind bringing him in. Wonder if Flyers still like Robertson

 

[SprDaVE]

Morgan Frost scratched today. Wouldn't mind bringing him in. Wonder if Flyers still like Robertson

I don't see why they would anymore looking at their roster. But maybe? I assume they would want a defenseman or maybe a pick/prospect?

Funny enough, they have 3x1st and 3x2nd round picks. They are rebuilding pretty well.

 

[Fogelhund]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858665447798759629

Also, Kasperi Kapanen on waivers.

Yes, please.

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On another note.. Boston getting hammered tonight.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I have a soft spot for Kapanen. It doesn't make sense for ours needs, but if he clears waivers... I'd be tempted to throw them a Benning or some depth forward like Abruzzese or something and see if he can bounce back here.

watching him and nylander in the marlies was a treat. good times

 

[TMLAM34]

I’d claim Kapanen for the fourth line RW. Definitely a better option in the lineup than Reaves, Steeves, Holmberg or Robertson.

 

[Fogelhund]

I’d claim Kapanen for the fourth line RW. Definitely a better option in the lineup than Reaves, Steeves, Holmberg or Robertson.

Not really any more. Kapanen of old, sure... but he's not that player now.

 

[arso40]

Not really any more. Kapanen of old, sure... but he's not that player now.

He was always clutch I think there’s a player in there still rather him then Jarnkrok

 

[seanlinden]

Morgan Frost scratched today. Wouldn't mind bringing him in. Wonder if Flyers still like Robertson

I'm not sure the Flyers ever liked Robertson. They have their own version in Bobby Brink.

I'd also question whether the Leafs have the wherewithal to make more than 1 material addition to the forward group.

You look at this roster (especially up front), and there's quite a few guys somewhat cemented into positions.

Matthews & Tavares are going to be your 1-2 centres.

Knies is going to be a top 6 left winger, McMann & Pacioretty make too little money and provide too much to lose a spot in the lineup; althoug maybe McMann or Pacioretty find themsleves on the 4th line in a completely healthy situation.

Marner & Nylander are going to be your top 2 right wingers.

Between Jarnkrok, Kampf, Dewar, Holmberg, Lorentz and Reaves, you've got more than enough to make a 4th line.

That leaves Domi & Robertson. Even if you assume Robertson is on the way out, Domi is going to have to take one of those top 9 spots.

Given all that rigidity, crowded bottom of the lineup, and limited draft capital (obviously they dont want to move Minten or Cowan) it would seem potentially unwise to "jump" on the first acquisition that happens to make it to market... but rather focus your efforts on the deadline when more teams pictures become clearer.

Morgan Frost would be a really nice addition long term IMO, but Brock Nelson would make the Leafs an absolute matchup nightmare. Matthews-Domi, Tavares-Nylander, Nelson-Marner... then again... Matthews-Domi, Tavares-Marner, and Frost-Nylander also sound pretty good.

 

[TheDoldrums]

It’s really annoying that multiple sellers have potential conflicts with the Leafs that might preclude them from making deals.

Penguins, Flames might be off the table.

 

[Dekes For Days]

It’s really annoying that multiple sellers have potential conflicts with the Leafs that might preclude them from making deals.
Penguins, Flames might be off the table.

There hasn't been anything suggesting that Pittsburgh wouldn't deal with Toronto. Even the Calgary stuff is likely overblown.

 

[ACC1224]

It’s really annoying that multiple sellers have potential conflicts with the Leafs that might preclude them from making deals.

Penguins, Flames might be off the table.

I'd be surprised if either team wouldn't deal with the Leafs if they're making the best offer.

 

[Tony Romo]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858665447798759629

Also, Kasperi Kapanen on waivers.

Scouting Brad Marchand to sign him in FA, imo

 

[TheDoldrums]

I'd be surprised if either team wouldn't deal with the Leafs if they're making the best offer.

When you’re selling it’s pretty likely you’ll get multiple comparable offers, easy to not help out the guy/team you don’t like personally in that case. It was already reported this happened last year with Calgary and Markstrom

 

[Fogelhund]

It’s really annoying that multiple sellers have potential conflicts with the Leafs that might preclude them from making deals.

Penguins, Flames might be off the table.

So two teams out of 31 other teams... I'm not worried about that much.

Scouting Brad Marchand to sign him in FA, imo

Not exactly our need though is it?

 

[ACC1224]

When you’re selling it’s pretty likely you’ll get multiple comparable offers, easy to not help out the guy/team you don’t like personally in that case. It was already reported this happened last year with Calgary and Markstrom

Agree to disagree I guess.
They took the best they could get for Markstrom based on their needs, not the best they could get from Teams they don't hold a grudge against.

 

[SprDaVE]

It's funny to me that the Flames (Lindholm and Zadorov to the Nucks ) and the Pens (Eller to the Caps) don't care about trading with divisional and close rivals, but supposedly won't make a trade with the Leafs based on pettiness.

 

[OVO16]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858665447798759629

Also, Kasperi Kapanen on waivers.

I know people are focused on Columbus, but wouldn't be surprised if Treliving is also scouting the Bruins. Trent Frederic seems like his type of player

 

[TheDoldrums]

It's funny to me that the Flames (Lindholm and Zadorov to the Nucks ) and the Pens (Eller to the Caps) don't care about trading with divisional and close rivals, but supposedly won't make a trade with the Leafs based on pettiness.

being a "divisional rival" means nothing when one team is rebuilding.

I like how it's "supposedly" when the Leafs had a comparable offer for Markstrom and didn't get him, and when Zadorov was being shopped all the insiders were hinting Toronto had no chance.

The Flames think Treliving screwed them over. You can keep your hand in the sand and pretend it's not a factor but yes, humans are petty and vindictive and hold grudges.

As for the Pens, if you ask the Oilers Dubas was already "petty" with them when Hyman left in those sign and trade negotiations. When Wes Clark left us and joined Dubas he made a big deal out of loyalty. But I'm expected to believe Dubas has no ill will against the only organization that has ever fired him. Okay.

 

[SprDaVE]

being a "divisional rival" means nothing when one team is rebuilding.

I like how it's "supposedly" when the Leafs had a comparable offer for Markstrom and didn't get him, and when Zadorov was being shopped all the insiders were hinting Toronto had no chance.

It probably means just as much as supposed pettiness?

The deal for Markstrom was never strongly rumoured. They had interest I'm sure but it's likely the Flames just liked the 1st and Bahl return over what the Leafs were likely offering. Did we have an NHL tested 6'6" 23 year old defenseman to trade? Who says we were offering something comparable? There were rumours they did not want to trade their 1st round pick as well, pointing to a big time lack of picks.

The Zadorov rumours is that the Leafs needed them to retain heavily. Calgary didn't want to and took the deal that didn't require retention.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1730374204724318544

 

[Fogelhund]

I know people are focused on Columbus, but wouldn't be surprised if Treliving is also scouting the Bruins. Trent Frederic seems like his type of player

Frederic is interesting, and would be a good add, I'm just not sure that Boston is willing to throw the towel in at this point. That seems a bit premature to me. Swayman hasn't been good, and maybe they need a coaching change, and they are still in a playoff spot. Selling off at this point doesn't seem likely. I'd like to modify the team sooner, than later, and I don't think Boston is there yet.

 

[All Mod Cons]

My plan would be to offer Marner the same % of the cap Nylander got, if the cap skyrockets so be it and to get a 3C in I like (Frost Dvorak) to see how he fits the team before I try resigning him

The last thing I want is to give a guy 5M+ then find out he isn't a good fit

I'd also try to keep Tavares but he'd need to work with us to try to get the cap to work

Keep the gang together? I like your thinking.

 

[TheDoldrums]

It probably means just as much as supposed pettiness?

The deal for Markstrom was never strongly rumoured.

Elliotte Friedman, 32 thoughts

"I heard their offer to Calgary was comparable to New Jersey's," Friedman said. "But I think because of the politics there, I think Toronto was going to have to blow anyone else out of the water to get that player."

NHL Rumour Roundup: Maple Leafs made comparable offer for Markstrom

The New Jersey Devils were the winners of the Jacob Markstrom sweepstakes but they certainly had competition for his services, including from the Maple Leafs.

www.sportsnet.ca

Like I said some posts ago, if the deals are comparable these teams are not likely to choose to work with Toronto. Having to overpay to get a deal done doesn't make sense so I doubt they make a transaction.