DarkKnight
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Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition
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If the Leafs could find a way to get Lawson Crouse in a Liljegren deal that would be awesome.
Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann- Domi - Nylander
Crouse - Tavares - Robertson
Lorentz - Holmberg/Kampf - Reaves
Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann- Domi - Nylander
Crouse - Tavares - Robertson
Lorentz - Holmberg/Kampf - Reaves
rumman
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Utah would never trade Crouse, but boy that would be a real coup to obtain him…….
dubplatepressure
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Jack McBain please and thank you.
Magic Man
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I'd be fine with a 2nd.
Even if it makes the Leafs look foolish I don't see him breaking out with this coach and GM given their clear preference for other types of playing styles
SprDaVE
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Not sure I see Utah trading a roster player when they are trying to make a push and they have a lot of future assets. Soderstrom is probably a bust but could be worth the project if the 2nd isn't quite enough? I don't know. He signed a 2 year deal with Brynas in the off-season.
It gives ammo for the trade deadline or maybe even at the draft. Leafs can then activate Dewar and/or Jarnkrok without much issue other waiving someone.
A 2nd is an extremely high ask for Liljergren at this point. I think the absolute best case scenario is we get the Rangers 3rd.
ULF_55
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Totally agree with you on this.
If we get the pick it would be used at the deadline to bring in immediate help.
SprDaVE
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That's possible, it's hard to tell what his value is like and it depends on options they have available. It could always be conditional based on Utah's performance. I don't think the difference between 2nd and a 3rd is that extreme though.
I mentioned Victor Soderstrom before... he's a prospect with probably some untapped upside. With that said, a 3rd round pick is just a prospect a few more years away. You get to control who you want and perhaps you get lucky.
I think the Leafs just need cap space and future ammo, whatever that might be we'll see.
SHANNYPLAN
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Now:
Liljegren, Kampf & 4th
for
McBain
At Deadline:
Granlund
for
Robertson, Jarnkrok & 2nd/3rd
Playoff Lines:
Knies - - Matthews - - Domi
McMann - Granlund - Nylander
McBain - - Tavares - - Marner
Lorentz - - Dewar* - - Reaves
Holmberg/Minten*
Liljegren, Kampf & 4th
for
McBain
At Deadline:
Granlund
for
Robertson, Jarnkrok & 2nd/3rd
Playoff Lines:
Knies - - Matthews - - Domi
McMann - Granlund - Nylander
McBain - - Tavares - - Marner
Lorentz - - Dewar* - - Reaves
Holmberg/Minten*
ULF_55
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Completely agree, the Leafs must acquire Cap space.
Leafs can get that and a prospect at the same time.
My preference is a prospect who has passed the guaranteed never going to happen stage, just isn't ready today. There are teams, Utah for example, who don't have time to wait for that player to develop further.
Liljegren is a NHL player, not a prospect, not a pick, he's guaranteed to play in the NHL, and can be put in a line-up today.
Punch Drunk Loov
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I'd hope Lilly can get us at least what we gave up for Edmundson lol
hamzarocks
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I dont know If we would view Soderstrom as much of a prospect tbh
He is 23 going 24 in his D+6 year playing in Europe after struggling in NHL/AHL.
He is only 2 drafts classes younger than Lilijgren
I would want back a player for Lilijgren ideally.
McBain if they value him a lot
Stenlund + 4th if they dont
Stenlund could be our 4C ideally for 2M and is a 6'5 player which Treliving and Berube would like
Make this trade and then deal Kampf for a 4th and 5th to get back some picks in the system
ULF_55
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SprDaVE
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I'll be honest I haven't see a ton of Soderstrom and definitely doesn't have a lot of appeal at his stage of his career. Mostly just throwing a dart in the dark and hoping you land something. A smallish fast skating RHD with some skill, maybe he hits after changing teams. You can hope for a player back but typically at this point of the off-season teams are trying to compete and don't have a lot spare parts.
Utah in particular wants to replace LTIR players, not shift pieces around. They have a lot of prospects and picks to shop around... Liljegren isn't the only available defenseman for the right price. People want McBain but I don't see how that happens. They also just signed Stenlund... why would they trade him? Kampf has little to no value.
hamzarocks
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RHD depth being hurt could interest them in making a move and shift a forward player for a backend player.
Also when they signed him, Hayton looked like a bust again, but he has been good this year making their center deoth look better now
Leafs are a contending team, 3rd/4th rounders for liljjgren are not very enticing
A player like Stenlund that can come in and play with Lorentz and Dewar/Kampf/Jarnkrok to form a strong 4th line would be enticing for us
Of course we are the ones with a constraint. Eventually Dewar and Jarnkrok will be back so will need to make a trade one way or another.
Early Trading: Utah and Montreal exploring NHL trade market -TSN.ca
NHL teams aren't too keen on making trades early in the season but some injuries around the league could force some clubs to take some action. TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun sheds some light on the injury situation in Utah, discuss where the Canadiens are at in their rebuild process and whether or not they would be open to making changes with their roster.
NHL teams aren't too keen on making trades early in the season but some injuries around the league could force some clubs to take some action. TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun sheds some light on the injury situation in Utah, discuss where the Canadiens are at in their rebuild process and whether or not they would be open to making changes with their roster.
SprDaVE
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A team like that needs to keep their NHL depth. They have cap space and finally the semblance of a respectable overall team. They didn't sign Stenlund to replace Hayton, mostly just to grab a some bottom line player for the reason you want him to play here. No idea how well he's doing there but I assume they have zero interest in trading him after signing him.
We have to consider their wants and needs.
Fogelhund
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Liljegren + Kampf to Utah for McBain
Jarnkrok + Holmberg to Columbus for Mathieu
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Domi Nylander
Robertson Tavares Pacioretty
Lorentz McBain Mathieu
Reaves
$8.3 mil out $2.59 mil in.
Lorentz and Mathieu have 20 hits, McBain has 19. All three are top 30 in hits in the NHL.
McBain 6'4" 219 lbs - 3 points in 7 games
Mathieu 6'1" 226 lbs - 4 points in 6 games
Lorentz 6'4" 216 lbs.
It gives us a big, heavy, physical fourth line, that can forecheck and chip in with some points. Utah gets their RD they need, plus a replacement C... and they have plenty of cap space. Columbus upgrades their offense, and have plenty of cap space.
Are these guys available? I really don't know, but this does a lot for us. It never hurts to ask. This is a playoffs, wear down teams 4th line.
Jarnkrok + Holmberg to Columbus for Mathieu
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Domi Nylander
Robertson Tavares Pacioretty
Lorentz McBain Mathieu
Reaves
$8.3 mil out $2.59 mil in.
Lorentz and Mathieu have 20 hits, McBain has 19. All three are top 30 in hits in the NHL.
McBain 6'4" 219 lbs - 3 points in 7 games
Mathieu 6'1" 226 lbs - 4 points in 6 games
Lorentz 6'4" 216 lbs.
It gives us a big, heavy, physical fourth line, that can forecheck and chip in with some points. Utah gets their RD they need, plus a replacement C... and they have plenty of cap space. Columbus upgrades their offense, and have plenty of cap space.
Are these guys available? I really don't know, but this does a lot for us. It never hurts to ask. This is a playoffs, wear down teams 4th line.
Rare Jewel
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Yes, they have some prospects that are interesting, but if he goes for a mid-round pick, then there's very little point.
