Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 - Deadline-ageddon

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Has anyone in the league ever traded a player lets use Domi as an example to a team rebuilding with extra cap just sitting around for the next few years for retention....haha its a genius idea im just not sure if its legal

So we trade Domi to San Jose for picks or whatever just something as collateral and right after we get San Jose to trade him back to us with 50% retention, we give them there picks back plus whatever it costs for the retention.....we keep Max and get back 1.875M in cap
 
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With Oilers struggling, maybe time for McD to come home, lol


Send Captain America to them for McJesus.

Or do they have room for Bitchy Mitchy?

Has anyone in the league ever traded a player lets use Domi as an example to a team rebuilding with extra cap just sitting around for the next few years for retention....haha its a genius idea im just not sure if its legal

So we trade Domi to San Jose for picks or whatever just something as collateral and right after we get San Jose to trade him back to us with 50% retention, we give them there picks back plus whatever it costs for the retention.....we keep Max and get back 1.875M in cap


The league would never approve a deal like that.
 
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With Oilers struggling, maybe time for McD to come home, lol
I'd love a McFlurry right now🤣o buddy
One season away & there's a possibility he signs here if Edmonton can't win in the next two years....that would be huge though as we would be able to move Matthew's for prospects/picks and a roster player.

Send Captain America to them for McJesus.

Or do they have room for Bitchy Mitchy?




The league would never approve a deal like that.

Haha i figured, damn that's unfortunate
 
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Has anyone in the league ever traded a player lets use Domi as an example to a team rebuilding with extra cap just sitting around for the next few years for retention....haha its a genius idea im just not sure if its legal

So we trade Domi to San Jose for picks or whatever just something as collateral and right after we get San Jose to trade him back to us with 50% retention, we give them there picks back plus whatever it costs for the retention.....we keep Max and get back 1.875M in cap
Lily might work it was earlier in the year but there’s no way that domi move at the deadline would be legal
 
Has anyone in the league ever traded a player lets use Domi as an example to a team rebuilding with extra cap just sitting around for the next few years for retention....haha its a genius idea im just not sure if its legal

So we trade Domi to San Jose for picks or whatever just something as collateral and right after we get San Jose to trade him back to us with 50% retention, we give them there picks back plus whatever it costs for the retention.....we keep Max and get back 1.875M in cap
Not legal. You have to wait a full calendar year to re-acquire a player that you have traded away.
 
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Common denominator is they all played on bad teams that made them "fall hard". Parankyo is considered having down years when the Blues have stunk these past 3 years.
Parayko fell hard more due to poor play, related to back injuries. It took a couple of years to really recover, and there were doubts he would.
 
How did that Parayko rumor get started? That one was pretty funny.
Parayko has been talked about potentially being traded for a year now. Most recently, it appears to have come from Kypreos, McKee and Justin Bourne.

Friedman has talked about the Leafs interest in Parayko in the past as well, so it’s made the circles.


I believe he’s been listed on the Athletic trade board and
 
I’d be happy with Gourde + Tanev + Oleksiak

No idea what to send them…

Robertson + Domi + 2nd +++ ?
Moving Domi is idiotic.

Domi is pacing 37 points per 82 games, in what is considered a big down year.

Even 37 points is great production from the 3rd line with limited PP time, considering he brings a lot of grit and toughness.

He probably rebounds to a 40-50 point player next year. And he has much higher potential if you put him on the wing with Matthews.

Trading him for pennies on the dollar is dumb.
 
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I'd look at moving Kämpf or Kämpf plus for Gourde (Seattle), Sissons (Nashville), Lundestrom (Anaheim), Dickinson (Chicago).

I also would look at adding a RHD for Timmins plus, but it could be tricky with the cap.

It would be ideal to move Kämpf and Timmins out to be replaced with a Kämpf level cap RHD and a cheap Timmins level cap bottom six C.
 
I don't know how we'd properly compensate Carolina for acquiring Rantanen. Sure, great player and all, but wing is the least position of need, after C/RD... to spend assets on a non-need seems silly to me, but maybe there is a way to address everything? I don't have confidence in Tre to do such things though.
The only Rantanen trade I see making sense is Marner for Rantanen, where it looks like both players are unlikely to extend where they are right now, but they both have some interest in extending with the team they're being traded to.
 
We are not ruthless enough
Tampa prime example
They told McDonough that he would be waived and picked up by Columbus and he accepted a trade

The just put Atkinson and someone else on waivers to make space at the deadline

We would never do something like that
Put domi on waivers gain that space
Put kampf on waivers gain that space
Put dewar and jarnkrok on waivers
All this to add a difference maker not just to get another depth player

Tampa will now have the cap to get someone capable of putting them over the top.

We are not ruthless enough to put the team ahead of the players
 
Moving Domi is idiotic.

Domi is pacing 37 points per 82 games, in what is considered a big down year.

Even 37 points is great production from the 3rd line with limited PP time, considering he brings a lot of grit and toughness.

He probably rebounds to a 40-50 point player next year. And he has much higher potential if you put him on the wing with Matthews.

Trading him for pennies on the dollar is dumb.
Fine by me. The guy hasn’t come close to earning his contract. It was clearly a mistake handing him out that much term.

He’s just just a passenger. He ain’t driving anything here. He’s just another buddy to keep that kiddie culture in Toronto alive. This team needs to man up. They need character.

Sure Domi can play intense (a shift every now and then). But he’s not consistent. He doesn’t show up for weeks at a time. He’s a huge floater. Let’s bring someone in here that will actually play with some heart.
 
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Beyond this TDL a big priority for Treliving in the summer is to trim the fat off this roster. Not only are we restricted with our cap usage but we’re maxed out on roster spots. We got like 6 guys who do absolutely nothing who are taking up cap space and roster spots. Domi, Kampf, Reaves, Jarnkrok, Dewar are taking up like 10 million on the cap. Get rid of these clowns. Take the combined cap space get a player in free agency, maybe give a kid like Minten and Steeves a spot and leave some roster spots open for moves in the season.

Treliving is stuck and it’s partly to do with his own moves or inaction. Like can someone tell me what exactly has Dewar or Reaves done to take up over 3 million in cap and two roster spots when we got a cheaper option in Steeves in the minors
 
Has anyone in the league ever traded a player lets use Domi as an example to a team rebuilding with extra cap just sitting around for the next few years for retention....haha its a genius idea im just not sure if its legal

So we trade Domi to San Jose for picks or whatever just something as collateral and right after we get San Jose to trade him back to us with 50% retention, we give them there picks back plus whatever it costs for the retention.....we keep Max and get back 1.875M in cap
If I recall, there is certain time period before a player is allowed to be traded back to his original team.
 
How about this as an idea. If the trade isn't sexy, don't make the deal.

We aren't one, two or three sensible roster shore ups away from real contention. We're a moon shot away from being championship caliber. Doesn't really look like there's been any maturation in this group that would suggest they're all business now.
i think theyre closer than you think. if they can add another top 4 defenceman and the big 4 finally come through in the playoffs they could really do some damage. but like every year it all hinges on the big 4.
 
Haha sure brother

Cowan is most definitely an NHL center, what makes you think different?

And i bet you were one of those people that said Tavares is better than Kadri when we blew this whole rebuild up.
Kadri has a ring now🤣And Tavares walks next season.

I'd love for you to explain yourself, rather than just make a comment without any knowledge behind it🤣
As some with seasons in Windsor, who also has family with seasons in London, I can pretty confidently say Cowan doesn't look to be an NHL center, amd there's a better than good chance he starts withthe Marlies next year, unless something in camp/offseason happens (trade/injury). He could earn a sheltered wing role, but we're more likely to let him cook as a Marlies first liner at that point.
 
I'd look at moving Kämpf or Kämpf plus for Gourde (Seattle), Sissons (Nashville), Lundestrom (Anaheim), Dickinson (Chicago).

I also would look at adding a RHD for Timmins plus, but it could be tricky with the cap.

It would be ideal to move Kämpf and Timmins out to be replaced with a Kämpf level cap RHD and a cheap Timmins level cap bottom six C.
The thing is, we need a C in addition to Kampf. We need another RHD, in addition to Timmins. Moving these two opens up new holes.

i think theyre closer than you think. if they can add another top 4 defenceman and the big 4 finally come through in the playoffs they could really do some damage. but like every year it all hinges on the big 4.
My concern is that Matthews is injured, and there is little chance of him coming through. He has two goals in his last 15 games. It’s nice that he’s playing hard, and getting assists, but we really need his goal scoring to succeed. I don’t know if shutting him down for a stretch will help, or if another surgery offseason is coming.
 
I actually would acquire about Henry Jokiharju from BUF: has quietly had really good fancy stats on an abysmal team. I'm guessing he could be had for very cheap. Send Timmins back with a pick.

Third pairing of OEL - Joker would be solid and move the puck well.
 
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I actually would acquire about Henry Jokiharju from BUF: has quietly had really good fancy stats on an abysmal team. I'm guessing he could be had for very cheap. Send Timmins back with a pick.

Third pairing of OEL - Joker would be solid and move the puck well.
Is he any different than Liljegren?
 
I don't think Timmins or Myers should be a regular. I like both players, but they are #7s in my mind. Good depth to have if we can afford it, though I wouldn't be surprised to see Timmins moved in a deadline deal.

I think either you get one RD (a beefy, defense first partner for Rielly) and run

Rielly-XXX
OEL-Tanev
Benoit-McCabe

(You can swap OEL and McCabe, but I'm not sure about Benoit-OEL as a pairing. Benoit-McCabe was killer last year, and OEL-Tanev has been good)


OR get two RDs and push Benoit to #7.

Rielly-XXX
McCabe-Tanev
OEL-XXX
bang on.
we need a rhd to play with Rielly, push OEL down to third pairing, fire Benoit into the sun.
Provorov, Ekblad??, who knows, someone good as a RHD.
I would rather do this that get a marginal upgrade over Minten on centre.
Please, no waste of assets on a Schenn because they are chien.
 
Fine by me. The guy hasn’t come close to earning his contract. It was clearly a mistake handing him out that much term.

He’s just just a passenger. He ain’t driving anything here. He’s just another buddy to keep that kiddie culture in Toronto alive. This team needs to man up. They need character.

Sure Domi can play intense (a shift every now and then). But he’s not consistent. He doesn’t show up for weeks at a time. He’s a huge floater. Let’s bring someone in here that will actually play with some heart.
Are there many non-ELC players that drive stuff making 3.75mil a year?
 
Parayko has been talked about potentially being traded for a year now. Most recently, it appears to have come from Kypreos, McKee and Justin Bourne.

Friedman has talked about the Leafs interest in Parayko in the past as well, so it’s made the circles.


I believe he’s been listed on the Athletic trade board and
Always interest and tire kicking but never the balls to make a big trade like that. I’m honestly tired of hearing about guys like Rantanen and Parayko… everyone knows Treliving isn’t going to do that.
 
Are there many non-ELC players that drive stuff making 3.75mil a year?

Just evans who in road to have his 1st carreer 30 pts season just signed at disxount at 2,85M and people thinking he would get easily more than that in free agency.

Domi with carreer low 37 pts and who had an carreer average of 50 pts at 3,75M. Yeah hes a pretty inconsistent player than when hes on crossing the line a lot by taking bad penalty but its also why Toronto got him under 4M.

Don't hope to get a much better player under 4 M... The best option leafs have is finding someone to help him to make him come back to the guy who had 1,18 pts/60at 5v5 over his actual production. And no it was not because of Matthews because even before playing with him, his 5v5/60 production was pretty high
 
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