GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[notdoneyet]

I think these are the guys that are going
Lilly 2nd round pick
Kampf 3rd round pick
Jarnkrok 3rd round pick
Timmins 6th round pick

 

[Legion34]

I am trying to work out Dallas trade?
They would need to move major salary.

We won’t get hints. It would probably be like a j Robertson? 7.5 vs 11.

Necas still works for Carolina.

LA could work. Especially if they buyout Dubois. I know they said they won’t. But …

I think these are the guys that are going
Lilly 2nd round pick
Kampf 3rd round pick
Jarnkrok 3rd round pick
Timmins 6th round pick

I heard Lilly for Morgan frost. I would do that.

Need to try to get a 2 c somewhere

 

[Gallagbi]

The biggest issues on Pk was lack of physicality in D and the PK was much better at the end after boosh and edmundson trade.

2- we dont know how Berube will use his player and how he see the situation

The PK got worse after Boosh/Edmunson we're acquired, but it was marginal. That's before it went south in playoffs.

Berube may change things around, but we lacked PK options upfront. Ideally you'd start reducing Marners PK role (if he stays) and build up some more options. I like Knies, but he wasn't great on the PK and Dewar didn't seem to add much. We lost some key killers in ROR, Accari and even Laf from the previous playoff. None were really replaced for that specific role

 

[Joseph Nathan]

I am trying to work out Dallas trade?
They would need to move major salary.

We won’t get hints. It would probably be like a j Robertson? 7.5 vs 11.

Necas still works for Carolina.

LA could work. Especially if they buyout Dubois. I know they said they won’t. But …



I heard Lilly for Morgan frost. I would do that.

Need to try to get a 2 c somewhere

Dallas isn't trading j Robertson dude.. not happening for anything

 

[thusk]

The PK got worse after Boosh/Edmunson we're acquired, but it was marginal. That's before it went south in playoffs.

Berube may change things around, but we lacked PK options upfront. Ideally you'd start reducing Marners PK role (if he stays) and build up some more options. I like Knies, but he wasn't great on the PK and Dewar didn't seem to add much. We lost some key killers in ROR, Accari and even Laf from the previous playoff. None were really replaced for that specific role

the realnplayer who able to have impact on pk amount foward was Kampf, marner and maybe Jarnkrok.. that's it

In d Mccabe and benoit had been the 2 only in D big part of regular season.

reducing number of player able to have an impact on pk will not help make the leafs better to defend on pk.

 

[Stephen]

Rangers place Barclay Goodrow on waivers in cap-saving move

The New York Rangers have placed veteran forward Barclay Goodrow on waivers, according to Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman.

www.sportsnet.ca

Barclay Goodrow on waivers. If he were to be bought out he’d be a nice add. Or if the Rangers wanted to retain 50% and take him for free.

 

[aingefan]

I think much of this is overblown... I mean, how many players sign for teams, where they have no ties to the city, aren't from the country, no ties to the coach or GM? It happens all the time.

I'm not saying Roy is coming here... but we don't see a parade of local Ontario kids trying to come here very often... it happens, but not that frequently.


16 points in 81 playoff games, before shooting an unsustainable 40% this year. His "intangibles" aren't worth anywhere near $3.6 million... He's a nice physical guy... sure you'd like to have him, but nowhere near that price.

When he’s going, Goodrow reminds me of pre-breakout Hyman. He’ll get after it.
But maybe those days are behind him?
Either that or I’m misremembering?
The versatility is nice tho, especially if he’s bought out as suggested to be a possibility.

 

[Legion34]

Dallas isn't trading j Robertson dude.. not happening for anything

I dunno. He was not great at all in the playoffs and had one big season.

Marner is better. I wouldn’t have thought Dallas would have the space/need with otter. Harley. Johnston coming up.

But playing along with the rumour. You need to give salary back for sure.

He would sign there. Competitive. Sun big market and no taxes.

Extended Marner would be more than Robertson easily. He’s better

 

[JKG33]

I dunno. He was not great at all in the playoffs and had one big season.

Marner is better. I wouldn’t have thought Dallas would have the space/need with otter. Harley. Johnston coming up.

But playing along with the rumour. You need to give salary back for sure.

He would sign there. Competitive. Sun big market and no taxes.

Extended Marner would be more than Robertson easily. He’s better

Under your premise that J Rob is disappointing in the playoffs, why would they wanna pay Marner $4m more to do the same thing?

 

[Leaffan1991]

Marner for Dobson Pageau makes a lot of sense for both sides.
Leafs get a number 1 RHD and a good 3C and the islanders get elite winger(they don't really have any)

 

[Legion34]

Under your premise that J Rob is disappointing in the playoffs, why would they wanna pay Marner $4m more to do the same thing?

Marner is the superior player. I was expecting the “not show up in the playoffs” narrative.

It doesn’t really matter either way.

 

[Gallagbi]

the realnplayer who able to have impact on pk amount foward was Kampf, marner and maybe Jarnkrok.. that's it

In d Mccabe and benoit had been the 2 only in D big part of regular season.

reducing number of player able to have an impact on pk will not help make the leafs better to defend on pk.

What?

 

[JKG33]

Marner is the superior player. I was expecting the “not show up in the playoffs” narrative.

It doesn’t really matter either way.

But he's certainly not $4m+ better.

And why would Dallas, a cap strapped team that's super deep at forward and needs to add legit D men, spend more cap for a winger?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Marner for Dobson Pageau makes a lot of sense for both sides.
Leafs get a number 1 RHD and a good 3C and the islanders get elite winger(they don't really have any)

I guess Barzal being elite or not is a fair debate.

 

[ER89]

I think these are the guys that are going
Lilly 2nd round pick
Kampf 3rd round pick
Jarnkrok 3rd round pick
Timmins 6th round pick

i think we can get a late first for lilly imo.

Yes we have soured on him but hes got upside - at least a lot of guys may think this way - im drinking copium.

Although i will say i loved him before the marchand hit

I dunno. He was not great at all in the playoffs and had one big season.

Marner is better. I wouldn’t have thought Dallas would have the space/need with otter. Harley. Johnston coming up.

But playing along with the rumour. You need to give salary back for sure.

He would sign there. Competitive. Sun big market and no taxes.

Extended Marner would be more than Robertson easily. He’s better

id do it so quick.

Plus younger robertson would be REJUVENATED

 

[OVO16]

There is rumors san jose will be claiming Goodrow

 

[TMLAM34]

There’s no way the Islanders move Dobson for Marner. You don’t trade franchise right handed defencemen, especially for a winger.

I don’t think Toronto and the Islanders are good trading partners but here’s a random offer:

To Toronto: Ryan Pulock + Alexander Romanov + Oliver Wahlstrom + NYI 1st Round Draft Pick
To Islanders: Mitch Marner + Timothy Liljegren

 

[OVO16]

All this talk about Marner but watch it be Jarnkrok traded to the Islanders for a pick instead

 

[Legion34]

My hypothetical power rankings of where Marner would end up.

Lowest:
Winnipeg, Calgary, Montreal, edmonton,Colorado

Would be low in combination of no room,taxes, pressure, not being local.

But he's certainly not $4m+ better.

And why would Dallas, a cap strapped team that's super deep at forward and needs to add legit D men, spend more cap for a winger?

I’m not disagreeing. I’m humouring the rumour that they are interested. It’s not my idea. It’s the report of pagnotta.

Which probaktn isn’t worth much but it’s an idea

 

[JKG33]

If Lou likes Marner I could see a deal happening there. Toronto would have to add to get Dobson but I happily would. I doubt either goalie is moved.. they'd be stupid to trade Sorokin, and Varlamov signed for cheap to stay in NY. The more I think about it a Dobson trade just might make sense cause senile Lou and they're somewhat deep on D.

Buffalo is the other one I could see. They're quite stupid and desperate, and their 1st is nice but in a range where it's still tradeable. I could see maybe 11th + one of their many forward prospects (maybe a Krebs idk, but I highly doubt a Savoie or Benson type).

Anaheim is another one, and that's where I think he ends up if he hits UFA. Problem is they don't have much to offer. Tbh I'd happily take Gibson retained, EDM's 1st and Vatrano

 

[Zero1]

IB hasn't hit lately but he has always been the most connected guy on twitter when it comes to the Isles. Might be nothing, but it's something to talk about.

Who is he hinting at? Dobson?

I don’t like anything on that team outside of him or Sorokin.

 

[Stephen]

There’s no way the Islanders move Dobson for Marner. You don’t trade franchise right handed defencemen, especially for a winger.

I don’t think Toronto and the Islanders are good trading partners but here’s a random offer:

To Toronto: Ryan Pulock + Alexander Romanov + Oliver Wahlstrom + NYI 1st Round Draft Pick
To Islanders: Mitch Marner + Timothy Liljegren

The Islanders assets are incredibly lame outside of Dobson.

It’s like the Burke era Leafs try to package of Bozak and Gunnarsson for a superstar here.

There’s no way a Marner deal should happen between Toronto and the Islanders unless it’s a sweet set up for the Leafs.

 

[LeafEgo]

I like Kampf as a player.

But I'm not sure his current salary makes sense if the team isn't going to build a shutdown line around him, which doesn't seem like it's going to be the case moving forward.

Or they need to play him with a couple of offensive drivers on the third line

He was paid too much but it would be pretty difficult to replace Kampfs bottom six responsibilities just to get the 500k savings or so back, and your losing the tenure he has - presumably gets along well with the club.

I'd rather squeeze the savings out of Jarnkrok - always liked him and his contract but now I think there's more to squeeze value-wise from him than Kampf, and that we'd be fine without him.

 

[ULF_55]

Marner for Dobson Pageau makes a lot of sense for both sides.
Leafs get a number 1 RHD and a good 3C and the islanders get elite winger(they don't really have any)

WTF are people thinking the Leafs are going to take a Cap dump in a marner trade.

Pageau is not an add, he's a negative value.

If the Islanders can't afford marner, tough.

 

[thusk]

What?

the only defensive specialist leafs have is kampf and marner... player of people want to trade. If they move them, who will play in pk and help this pk to be better. Remove Kampf and marner and who do you really trust in pk to take the faceoff and play like next 15-30-45- 60 seconds if you lost the faceoff?

you still need option to play on PK and protecting lead late in the game. You cant only having offensive player and ask them to become great defensive player. Bertuzzi, Domi, tavares, robertson, Reaves are pretty bad in D. Knies struggling in pk. Its half of your foward. Nylander is fast and enough smart to make play but he's not a good defensive player.

you need player able to make an impact in the defensive end too