Trades and Free Agency Thread - Push all the chips in?
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So NJD and LAK are trying to extend Palmieri and Iafallo.
CBJ supposedly isn’t ready to sell (Foligno).
I really think something might come together with ANA. Hakanpaa would be a solid depth D add. Rakell or Terry (or both) would be great additions to our lineup.
CBJ supposedly isn’t ready to sell (Foligno).
I really think something might come together with ANA. Hakanpaa would be a solid depth D add. Rakell or Terry (or both) would be great additions to our lineup.
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I've had it up to here with bad teams wanting to retain their good players. Embrace the tank and take Kerfoot and a 1st and be grateful
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Simmonds returning to the line-up will be a big addition in itself. Excited to see him back.
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A couple of thoughts. I wonder if a team drops out of the North Division playoff race closer to the deadline we could see a Leafs and another Canadian team making a deal closer to the deadline, foregoing the quarantine procedures.
Second I’m surprised they’re mostly prioritizing the forward group more than the possibility of adding a defenseman. It seems like their offense sort of short circuits when they try to over compensate defensively, like the Columbus series or the last Calgary series. Maybe if they got a better defenseman who could take care of business it frees them up more to attack? Upgrade is an upgrade.
Those Leafs Hour guys on Sportsnet seem unusually down on Kerfoot and Amirov. Not understanding that at all.
Finally, I wonder what the Leafs deadline is for making deals with US teams?
Second I’m surprised they’re mostly prioritizing the forward group more than the possibility of adding a defenseman. It seems like their offense sort of short circuits when they try to over compensate defensively, like the Columbus series or the last Calgary series. Maybe if they got a better defenseman who could take care of business it frees them up more to attack? Upgrade is an upgrade.
Those Leafs Hour guys on Sportsnet seem unusually down on Kerfoot and Amirov. Not understanding that at all.
Finally, I wonder what the Leafs deadline is for making deals with US teams?
Yeah, Terry doesn’t make sense to me for ANA to trade, but his names been out there, so that’s why I mention him.
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It's so, so important to hold onto guys like Robertson, Sandin, even Liljegren with our current cap makeup.
Amirov is a few years away and not really a necessity (more the cherry on top) so he could be traded for someone who can put us over the top. Also on the block should be 1st/2nd round picks and Kerfoot (too much $) as well.
@Stephen I can see why it makes sense to move Amirov/Kerfoot.
Amirov is a few years away and not really a necessity (more the cherry on top) so he could be traded for someone who can put us over the top. Also on the block should be 1st/2nd round picks and Kerfoot (too much $) as well.
@Stephen I can see why it makes sense to move Amirov/Kerfoot.
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It is very important. I don't think anyone is rushing to give them up for rentals or bad players. But it's also not very realistic to hold on to all of them when we have you have a chance to immediately improve your roster and give yourself the best chance at winning the cup.
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I tend to think of Robertson, Amirov, Sandin and Liljegren this way. If we were the Washington Capitals and it’s 2010 or 2011 and we’re racing to try to win a championship, could any of those players become a Carlson or Kuznetsov in the sense that they could factor in a big way to help us win a cup down the road? Or are we all in this year and if we don’t win, we could be entering a retool? It’s an awkward time because our NHL core is still so young but the cap ceiling is set for a couple of years and we have some key free agents at positions we may not be able to replace right away.
I think if we come out dominant this weekend I’ll feel more bullish about the all in move but it’s still somewhat awkward to me.
I think if we come out dominant this weekend I’ll feel more bullish about the all in move but it’s still somewhat awkward to me.
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Sens claimed Forsberg from waivers, from Winnipeg as they lost their third stringer to injury now.
He is now quarantining for 7 days and 4 negative tests I read in several places.
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The thing about moving Kerfoot is you are losing an important top 9 player for 2 weeks without an immediate replacement if you move him, and I don't think they want to move a guy with his kind of flexibility unless absolutely necessary. At least with a guy like Andersen, you have Campbell who can take the reins for the most part and you may only need to play Hutch one or two times barring injury, and for Engvall he is not quite as good as Kerfoot so he is easier to replace with a different guy.
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I still think that Dubas is likely not going to move Liljegren, Sandin, or Robertson. Robertson and Liljegren could start in the NHL next year, and Sandin is not that far behind.
If he gives up anyone, it would be Amirov who is probably 2 or 3 more years away and is another winger, which we don't necessarily need desperately. Given he has mid-1st round pick value, there is not a rental out there worth him, and even most of the guys with term are not worth him either.
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I don't thin k it's as bad as some may think. There are a bunch of bottom 9 potential players in the minors that could use an opportunity to show what they have with the big club. Guys like Anderson, Gaudet, Barabanov (who looks to have been adjusting nicely since being sent down) and to a lesser extent Agostino. Not the sexiest names, but you give a couple of them time to show their worth. I'm really curious about how Anderson and Gaudet would fair, in particular.
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Absolutely none of Robertson, Liljegren, Sandin or Amirov should be even discussed for a rental.
Ottawa received Brannstrom, a 2nd round pick and a contract dump for Mark Stone (with a long term extension!). The cost of a rental should not include any of the guys listed above. Not even close, really.
Ottawa received Brannstrom, a 2nd round pick and a contract dump for Mark Stone (with a long term extension!). The cost of a rental should not include any of the guys listed above. Not even close, really.
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I’m not really in favour of trading any of those guys for a pure rental either, but to be fair wasn’t Brannstrom one of the best D prospects out there at the time of the trade?
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I think you under value Brannstroms value at the time. Him and a 2nd for a rental was a very high price to pay. Brannstrom hasn't panned out though so it's easy to say the price was not very good (yet). His value at the time was pretty much Sandins value right now. I think that says a lot about top prospects sometimes not working.
I doubt Dubas does this kind of move though for a rental. I do think he'd trade one of the top prospects for a Rackell or a Forsberg if they are retained.
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Yup. He was a really good prospect. Fair to say he'd be on par at that time with Liljegren/Sandin level of prospect.
Stone came with an extension though. Point being, none of our guys will be traded for a rental.
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Mark Stone came with a hand-shake extension. Brannstrom's value was very high. Equivalent to what Sandin/Liljegren's value is now.
I'm not undervaluing Brannstrom at all. I'm suggesting that if you give up a player of his value, it's not for a rental. It's for a player with term.
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