What was Malakhov's contract? I can't find any info on that. Can you please also share which cap dumps were accompanied by a first with nothing else involved? Implying that the Eriksson deal was similar to the Marleau deal is quite disingenuous. Calling two 2nd and a 3rd = 1st isn't a stretch but the first 2nd round pick was known to be 60th OA at the time which makes it difficult to equate it to a 1st - even then, Ladd had 2 years remaining.
If you can find one post on this board that claims Lou didn't sign Marleau then hats off to you. That poster must be uninformed. Marleau wanting to play for San Jose is absolutely a factor. The price was still more than any other team had given up to move out a contract in 13 years.
When did the NHL institute a hard cap ? Legitimate question. I think that partly contributes to the time line as well ( obviously longer than 13 years but how long? ). Post strike ?
I think people are missing part of the story.
The first season was 2005-06. The Devils (Lou) moved out Malakhov and a 1st round pick in the summer of 2006 for two players who were non-factors.
I struggled to find full details on it but according to wiki it was signed in August 2005 when the salary cap was known but no cap season had been played. Coincidentally the people who use this as an excuse for Dubas giving up a first will also use the Nash/Kovalchuk contracts signed during that same summer as comparables for Matthews.
Are there many similar deals to Marleau? With a 35+ full cap hit and $4m+ owed in real dollars being moved for buyout purposes? I can recall LTIR trades and inflated salaries, but I dont recall many moves strictly for buyout
None to my knowledge. The closest i could recall were Eriksson, Ladd, Backes. None were bought out but the team had to eat the cap hit and salary (not covered by insurance like an LTIR contract). In all 3 of those cases the players were no longer NHL caliber therefore the money is essentially dead.
I cant find any exact comparables either. Backes and Loui were part of bigger deals, and Backes was in season. Really i dont see them as similar moves or situations.
Arizona’s paying 8M which is almost double the 4.25M Carolina paid Marleau. The cost is arguably the same although the first 2nd round pick was known to be 60th at the time which makes it less likely that that combination of picks would have equated a first.
Ladd's bonus would have been paid out on July 1/21, no? So that would take away $3M of that 8 which is where i came up woth the $5M number. Happy to be corrected if it is on a different payout due to covid or the odd Dec payout date like Marleau had.
Right and marleau was i think 4.25 real money but the 6.25 cap hit for the year
