Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[Dion TheFluff]

i mean they have b2b cups and another cup finals appearance. I would happily mortgage the future for that

 

[Damisoph]

What's Waddell doing in Carolina? Must be feeling a bit of pressure seeing all these names drop off the board

 

[aingefan]

If they’re spreading out offense, I’d think Kerf-ROR-Acciari could be a dangerous line.
Smart on both sides of the puck.

 

[SprDaVE]

What's Waddell doing in Carolina? Must be feeling a bit of pressure seeing all these names drop off the board

After Jeannot, how can anyone compete? Might as well just pack it up. Why bother?

They seem like a team that would love Gavrikov. They also have pretty iffy center depth.

 

[The Podium]

Our soft bottom 6 doesn’t have to be soft. I’m hoping Kerfoot is dealt for picks to relay into a D or another bottom 6 forward and run:

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
Knies - ROR - XXXX
Engvall - Kampf/Acciari - Acciari/Kampf

Personally I’d target Wade Allison for that 3rd line RW.

 

[Fogelhund]

Is Kerfoot playing like he did 2 years ago? He has 7 goals this year and took a brutal penalty that cost us late in the series last year. He could be punted to the moon for all I care.

Kerfoot is putting up more points/60 this year, than he did two years ago. He's getting less ice time though, so less points. He took ONE bad penalty? Did this give you PTSD or something?

He's a guy you can play up the lineup, if you have an injury. He can contribute with better linemates.

You talk about small pieces of data, and McMann's eight games, but then bring up ONE penalty. I'm not saying Kerfoot is great or anything, and I'd love to upgrade him, but to suggest McMann is an upgrade, with no evidence is well wide of the mark.

McMann's best college season; 30 points in 40 games. Kerfoot 45 points in 36 games. McMann is never going to have the offensive impact that Kerfoot has.. and Kerfoot is a pretty vanilla middling NHL guy... think about that for expectations of McMann. Kerfoot was more productive than Knies in college, and is above 0.5 PPG in the NHL.

You don't throw away a 0.5 PPG career guy, because of one or two bad plays, on a decent contract. You upgrade if you can somehow, and use that cap space, but to suggest a 26 year old rookie, with zero NHL points, and no prior history, is an upgrade??? I mean, Kerfoot has 213 NHL points, and McMann zero... they are two years apart in age. McMann hasn't had good defensive results so far, he doesn't PK.... hasn't scored... but ya...

Go ahead, get an upgrade... McMann is not currently that. Doubtful he ever is, but I do hope he turns into something useful.

 

[thusk]

I mean I want him to take Kerfoots spot. It isn't like Kerfoot is filling the net while also bringing zero physicality and we know he doesn't have it in when it gets tough. Also small samples. He played 8 games.

Because tampa adding physicality doesn't mean leafs should add phisicality....

Trying to finish the serie with more hit than tampa its not whats gonna make leafs win. Kerfoot is better in every aspect of the game except physicality but sure removing a guy who can provide depht scoring, defensive abilitu for a guy who didn't provide anything from offensive et defensive side but whos hitting... come on

Lets put the worst player on the ice ans try to play like tampa

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Because tampa adding physicality doesn't mean leafs should add phisicality....

Trying to finish the serie with more hit than tampa its not whats gonna make leafs win. Kerfoot is better in every aspect of the game except physicality but sure removing a guy who can provide depht scoring, defensive abilitu for a guy who didn't provide anything from offensive et defensive side but whos hitting... come on

Lets put the worst player on the ice ans try to play like tampa

I think McMann is a better player then Kerfoot. Not just because he is more physical. Kerfoot is a better skater.

 

[aingefan]

I’m happy that McMann is blossoming in the A, but for this year I’d rank him as the third best option on LW to make a playoff impact from the system behind Holmberg and Knies.

 

[Leaffan1991]

Our bottom 6 inflicts no fear into opposition.
Only guys who will throw a hit are ZAR and Acciari.
Compare that to Tampa where every single guy in the bottom 6 hits and can fight

 

[Fogelhund]

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Sure, you pay all those picks for him, but he's only worth a $2mil contract?

 

[SprDaVE]

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Sure, you pay all those picks for him, but he's only worth a $2mil contract?

 

[Fogelhund]

Our bottom 6 inflicts no fear into opposition.
Only guys who will throw a hit are ZAR and Acciari.
Compare that to Tampa where every single guy in the bottom 6 hits and can fight

Is this hockey, or WWE?

I think McMann is a better player then Kerfoot. Not just because he is more physical. Kerfoot is a better skater.

Quantify this. In what ways is McMann better, show the stats and data. I'll wait.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[123offtheglass]

This lessens the blow for Tampa; 2m long term is really good value for Jeannot, potentially really good. I'd be shocked if he actually signed for that low an AAV.

There's certainly worse deadline deals teams can make... even though it was a clear overpayment.

 

[Fogelhund]

Unless we find a way to give away contracts, it doesn't look like we can be in on this action. Though perhaps if we feel someone is worth the contract... we could give them an AHL contract, and a nudge nudge wink wink for next year.

 

[SprDaVE]

Unless we find a way to give away contracts, it doesn't look like we can be in on this action.

Future ELCs don't start until after the season. Leafs can still be players. Most of those players won't be able to join since their seasons are still ongoing anyway.

 

[aingefan]

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Sure, you pay all those picks for him, but he's only worth a $2mil contract?

I can’t see him signing that kinda deal, at all. I can’t see that framework at all.

 

[thusk]

I think McMann is a better player then Kerfoot. Not just because he is more physical. Kerfoot is a better skater.

Where???

On battle board ok... yes

Its the 1st time last 3 or 4 year we get a 4th line who creating scoring chance but lets change it with a player who will be able to keep the puck but unable to do anything with it and kill leafs offensive of thats 4th line.

 

[The Podium]

This lessens the blow for Tampa; 2m long term is really good value for Jeannot, potentially really good. I'd be shocked if he actually signed for that low an AAV.

There's certainly worse deadline deals teams can make... even though it was a clear overpayment.

I’d be surprised if Jeannot takes a long term deal after a down season. A 1 year bridge would be more likely IMO

 

[Duffman955]

holy crap Tampa gave up a lot for Jeannot. mentioned earlier that Nic Deslauriers has been traded twice in recent years for a 3rd and a 4th round pick in separate deals. While Jeannot may have a little more scoring pop (he's not a 20% shooter) that is a horrendous deal and good on Nashville for moving him.

If Dubas gets Deslauriers or Mcbain for peanuts that offsets this move pretty easily.

Getting Deslauriers for mid round pick would go a long way for our bottom 6.

He's much better than ZAR and cam drop the mits with anyone.

 

[123offtheglass]

I’d be surprised if Jeannot takes a long term deal after a down season. A 1 year bridge would be more likely IMO

Carreer earnings are extremly low though, he hasn't even made 2 million yet according to capfriendly.

Betting on himself would very likely payoff, but it'd give him security & the actual money earned in Florida is pretty good I guess.

I still don't think it'd justify as low as 2m long term though.

 

[SprDaVE]

I’d be surprised if Jeannot takes a long term deal after a down season. A 1 year bridge would be more likely IMO

They probably made that trade knowing he'd probably take a long-term deal around that price.

 

[ULF_55]

They probably made that trade knowing he'd probably take a long-term deal around that price.

Knowing how much they gave up, his agent is likely thinking ... maybe not.

Their value perception on him appears much greater than Nashville's $2mm.

 

[VanW27]

A few thoughts on last night's trades:

- People seem to be selling what the Devils gave up very short, in particular Mukhamadullin. This is a 21 year old 6'3" dman playing big minutes and leading his team in defense scoring in the second best league in the world. And at just 21 is already in his 4th KHL season on a top end KHL team. He's very possibly a top 4 quality NHL dman right now.

- Huge price on Jeannot obviously, it makes no sense for us to come anywhere close to that offer. He'll do well in Tampa, creates a lot of chaos and that's what they want their bottom 6 to do and they value the cost certainty and team control. My hot take from a Leafs perspective, Jeannot would not be effective here, Tampa wants chaos from him, we ask our guys for control and possession - Engvall out performs Jeannot in our system. You can argue that the system needs to change but that's a completely separate discussion and isn't happening as long as Keefe and Dubas are here.

- Where are the Western conference teams? The West is completely wide open, there's a clear path to the Finals for anyone who wants it, why are they all sitting on their hands?